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With AVP, we have full blown Apple evangelists (podcast/blogger/reviewer types) struggling to find any reason to even bother putting it on anymore
It’s very telling that after the first wave of AVP reviews you see nothing about it anywhere. You see no one experimenting with it, crowing about a new app experience, just so little is being said about a product that isn’t even a year old.
 
Plenty of people buy "standard phones." According to Counterpoint research (MR article link below), the top selling iPhone in 2023 was the "standard" (non-Pro) iPhone 14.

As far as the price of early iPhones without contract requirements, the starting price of a 16GB iPhone 4 was $649 which is around $940 in today's dollars. The larger, more capable iPhone 16 with eight times the storage (128GB) is only $829.

 
It’s very telling that after the first wave of AVP reviews you see nothing about it anywhere. You see no one experimenting with it, crowing about a new app experience, just so little is being said about a product that isn’t even a year old.

Exactly right
The data is right in front of us all

Folks not seeing what’s really going on are making a choice
 
The problem is Apple themselves. The Apple Vision Pro would sell alot more if it allowed "mature content" if you know what I mean.

But Apple will never allow that.
 
One might say the same about the iPhone 2007. Everyone hated it because it was too expensive and didn’t have a keyboard and no one would ever buy it. Whatever happened to that device? Oh yeah. The price tripled and now they sell 350 million devices a year.
It’s very telling that after the first wave of AVP reviews you see nothing about it anywhere. You see no one experimenting with it, crowing about a new app experience, just so little is being said about a product that isn’t even a year old.
im not sure you’re following the Vision Pro people. Is mkbhd or Linus wearing one on in videos? No. But my YouTube feed is full of tech evangelists and filmmakers giving the new immersive film submerged rave reviews and claiming it’s the future of films and just the other day there’s a new interactive WW2 documentary where you accompany the 3 photographers on the beach that day. There’s plenty of people talking about the content you’re saying isn’t here. You just need to look for it. The app that puts ghosts in your house is terrifying btw lol.
 
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They’re now throwing everything at the wall in panic-mode because they have no vision any longer.

OpenAI and other large companies like Tesla will pass Apple within 5-10 years.

Apple is failing on so many fronts now. They aren’t even actively developing a home bipedal robot and there is a 100% chance they will be one if the biggest products in human history in the next 15 years.
 
The problem is Apple themselves. The Apple Vision Pro would sell alot more if it allowed "mature content" if you know what I mean.

But Apple will never allow that.
There’s no problem finding that kind of thing. Is it in the iTunes Store. No, but that’s what the internet is for.
 
Give it up, Apple... you aren't making 'Vision Pro' or 'VR' happen to a mass market.
I can’t wait for this comment to be used In 10 years when it absolutely is mass market.

I’ve just done over an hours work in it, no discomfort at all (with Annapro headband), battery is at 75%.

What people miss with “why would I want a computer strapped to my face” is, why would you want to hold an iPad when all of your screens could be floating in your space without holding a thing?

It has its issues no doubt, but it is gen 1 and to be expected. I use mine almost everyday and couldn’t be happier I took a risk on keeping it.
 
No sources cited in the article, anonymous or otherwise. Yet you continue to publish this SPECULATION from Gurman and Bloomberg that anyone reading this site could already assume via common sense.
 
I’m thinking eventually this will be $1499 like M4 MacBook Pro, and Vision Pro will be $2499 like 16” M4 Pro MacBook Pro.

I think we will ultimately see this (and I do mean ultimately as it will take years) as the direction Apple moves computing in general.
 
Vision Pro at $2499 would be a great success imho

EyeSight display is absolutely not needed- and the weight must come down.

Quality of the displays should not be compromised- speed of M2 is enough

I had a demo - and it was REALLY great - but price AND weight made me not buy it right now.

So - 2499 and a little less weight - and I buy immediately:)
 
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Pricing is not the single reason. I can hardly imagine wearing oled display on my head with just 2hrs battery life. What can this thing do that my current devices cannot? Apple should have thought twice before developing this helmet. It is a very niche product
 
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The planet where a search for "Tim Cook's Annual Compensation" reveals answers ranging from $63M to $98M. When one is making that much money each year, $2K or $3.5K or even $10K is like pocket change vs. the average Joe making the national average of about $59K.

Nevertheless, average Joe finds ways to scratch up $1K+ every couple of years for new phones that are only a little faster than the one they already own... new Macs that are only a little faster than the one they already own... new iPads... new watches... etc. They do this in spite of "buy them all" being a relatively large slice of their average annual compensation. Vpro pricing is like a couple of such purchases rolled into one transaction.

If anything, it may be a product that finally woke some people up to the idea that their money has value and the typical mentality of "just pay anything" may actually have some limits.
Where did Cook say that $2k is “affordable for this? Answer: nowhere. Its Gurman take.
 
I still have yet to see anything exciting from the AVP, and while my situation was purely anecdotal… I could never get the eye tracking to work during the in-store demo.

I’m not gonna spend $1K, $2K, or $3K on a device that is more difficult to use than an iPhone, iPad, or Mac.
 
Exactly. I wouldn't call $2000 "more affordable". It would still be a high-priced luxury item. I expected Apple to eventually get the Vision Pro down to that price.
If it’s 2000 then it makes me think this is not a lower end version but a second version and they managed to take the price down. Otherwise it wouldn’t make sense doing it but most things Apple has done the past decade don’t make sense anyway.
 
Carriers used to subsidize phones back then though. the iPhone 4 was probably 399 and I know I sold my year old 3GS unlocked then and thus got the 4 for free. ya really can't do that anymore.

Carriers still "subsidize" phones which is why you see offers today promoting "free" or deeply discounted phones, inflated trade-in values, etc. with long-term carrier commitment. For example, if you trade in a device to AT&T worth at least $230 you can get a new iPhone 16 Pro for "free."
 
Pricing is not the single reason. I can hardly imagine wearing oled display on my head with just 2hrs battery life. What can this thing do that my current devices cannot? Apple should have thought twice before developing this helmet. It is a very niche product
You’re asking the wrong question. A lot of people love desktops and they won’t use laptops. Or iPads. Or mobile phones. What can an iPhone do that my desktop can’t… turns out quite a lot for a lot of people.

I could easily turn it around and say in Vision Pro I can have multiple floating windows of content why would I possibly want a regular computer with just one screen. That’s so limiting.

It’s not that AVP will totally replace the current computing paradigm. Some people still use terminal today. It will live alongside all the other ways to compute and you may like it you may not.

But it’s like someone who used a desktop and mouse trying to explain to a command line user in the 80s why it’s better. It’s clearly better the minute try it. It’s Gen1, yes. But it’s clearly the next move in computing.
 
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Exciting times ahead for Apple and visionOS users, with each month that goes by, the conversation grows.

The content grows.

The rumours grow.

The competition grows.

Even you guys complaining about price and weight, you can’t help yourselves. You keep turning up giving Vision Pro your attention.

Before you know it, you’ll be buying one 😄
 
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Lower price and lighter weight and better eye tracking with contact lenses was my gripes with the VP when I tried it for 2 weeks.

Ditch the glass front panel and extra outward facing display. Keep or improve the VR displays. Call it the Vision Air
 
It might sell well, but ONLY if they can get the content providers, mainstream apps (Youtube, Netflix) and unlock the potential for use watching sports.

I think it could be good.... but it desperately needs content deals to be made.... along with modest improvements to the ergonomics (e.g. lighter, less bulky).
 
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