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Gurman: Apple to Announce New Macs This Month

Fuzzball84 said:
No, chip design innovation is not just transistors per cm2 and performance per watt... what you're referring to there is the node (and yes I know that is related to design and relies on new technologies)... but chip design involves so much more than node shrinkage... architecture changes are where some really innovative things happen.
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And architecture changes happen when suddenly there is much more room for many more transistors. There's only so much Intel chip designers could do on the ever same 10nm node. There's a reason people are waiting for the M3 iMac and not the M2 iMac, M3 is expected to be a 3nm chip.
 
MacBird said:
I'm wondering what all the people with a 27'' Intel iMac are going to do now that the 2017 model can't be updated to Sonoma. I doubt that most of them would be happy with a 24'' iMac. I guess macMini or Studio and a larger display as it does not look as if there is going to be a new 27'' iMac in the lineup.
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open legacy core is the solution I guess

It’s a pity the EU isn’t making Apple support devices for 10 years
 
Corefile said:
If it's only an M2 iMac then I'll stick with my 2011 iMac instead.
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An M2 iMac would mean an M3 iMac would be easily at least a year away. That would truly suck after waiting all this time.

That said I’d be willing to see the performance of an M2 with 24GB RAM to see if it’s worth considering. But a minor spec bump after waiting two years would be disappointing. M3 promises a more serious performance upgrade.
 
entropyfl said:
I have a 2014 iMac 27 inch which still runs fine but On Friday I’ve just ordered a studio display to run my works MacBook Air and then I’m going to retire the 27inch iMac and see how i get on using my m1 iPad Pro with the 27 inch studio. I’m hoping the most recent improvements in iPad os17 will allow me to get by with just the iPad for personal use. If not the plan is to pick up a mini or a studio
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I think Apple made it pretty clear they were done with the 27" iMac when they launched the Studio Display and Mac Studio. Coupling the display with a Mac mini, Mac mini with Mx Pro or a Mac Studio covers the price and performance categories of the i7/i9 and iMac Pro that made up the 27" iMac lineup. The external display makes upgrading the "computer" an easier pill to swallow since you can't upgrade RAM/Storage anymore.
 
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iMac yes, but not the MacBook Pros. They were just updated in Jan. I highly doubt Apple would update those.
 
bikrrr said:
I've got Sonoma running great on my 2015 27" iMac via Opencore Legacy Patcher.
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How is Sonoma on that machine? I’ve got the same one (highest end config) and Ventura has been rock solid with OCLP, but haven’t yet made the jump to Sonoma. It seems like Sonoma has been a less disruptive upgrade than some other major versions (that was the case on my M1 Air), so that’s promising. But I always like to wait to make sure no other big issues come up when dealing with truly unsupported software configurations.
 
Biro said:
I have a 2019 27-inch iMac that still seems to work well. I’d prefer the option of sticking with that size screen but 24 inches might not be a deal-breaker.
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I went from 27” to 24” without issue since my 2014 Retina 5K iMac had simply had it. If you’re using the native 5120×2880 resolution, that’s available on the 24” iMac as the “more space” option without making things too small (for me, at least).
 
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If this does come out, the high end will be M2 pro chip or just M2 chip similar to mac mini config. Your best bet is to buy a mac mini, there are really nice 4k monitors out there that cost less and you get same performance. I doubt performance will be any different than mac mini since they are the same chips so save your money and buy a mac mini instead with a nice monitor.
 
Mac Fly (film) said:
Apple know what they are doing, in the sense that their entire strategy is about the up-sell, but it’s makes for a sloppy lineup. That’s why they have three Apple Pencils, and don’t just coalesce around a single pure magnetic one. Essentially, they’ve no class and don’t give two s**** about streamlining their product lineup for their customers and their long term brand reputation.

They should, because it’s right, but they don’t care. Their entire product portfolio could be cleaned up dramatically. 10th gen iPad should never have existed in its current form, and iPad Air should have been renamed to be that iPad. iPad Pro should have more ports to make it more of a professional device. MBA should have SD Card to give people who use SD Cards the option of a thin and light laptop: teachers, office workers, executives, amateur photographers, and conference attendees. But again, Apple execs have no class so they won’t do the right thing.
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A company can never be too big to sharpen its Focus.
 
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Chuckeee said:
It is almost as unlikely that apple will alter the 24” iMac chassis (after just a single generation) just for an M2 pro version
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It's been 900 days that the 24" iMac hasn't been updated. They've had plenty of time to do just that.
 
Fuzzball84 said:
Its a bit weird that it seems every other manufacturer could work with intel to incorporate the bleeding edge versions.. from laptop, workstation, servers to games consoles... yet when it came to Apple they were releasing older generation chips??
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I am not a computer design specialist, but I suspect this has to do with price and battery life.

These top-performing chips are very power-hungry and require extensive cooling. And even with all that, it's a challenge to find any Wintel machines that are actually capable of providing the stated battery life under regular work conditions. And on top of that, Intel is going to be demanding a premium for their latest and greatest designs.

So by going with bleeding edge Intel chips, Apple would have to significantly increase the cost of their hardware, and probably give up on weight and battery life advantages. And yet, the MacBook Pros are already priced as premium product, undoubtedly as high as Apple things they can get away with to maintain maximum profitability. If they continue selling to the same customer base, the cost difference would have to come from profits, and they can't have that.

And the customers who actually do need to use these latest specced Intel chips are more often than not running applications that are not ported to Mac, and like to customize their setups to the point which Apple doesn't typically offer.

So Apple pretty much gave up the top spec, bleeding-edge-tech market segment to Wintel. That's not where their sweet spot is.
 
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SnowCrocodile said:
I am not a computer design specialist, but I suspect this has to do with price and battery life.

These top-performing chips are very power-hungry and require extensive cooling. And even with all that, it's a challenge to find any Wintel machines that are actually capable of providing the stated battery life under regular work conditions. And on top of that, Intel is going to be demanding a premium for their latest and greatest designs.

So by going with bleeding edge Intel chips, Apple would have to significantly increase the cost of their hardware, and probably give up on weight and battery life advantages. And yet, the MacBook Pros are already priced as premium product, undoubtedly as high as Apple things they can get away with to maintain maximum profitability. If they continue selling to the same customer base, the cost difference would have to come from profits, and they can't have that.

And the customers who actually do need to use these latest specced Intel chips are more often than not running applications that are not ported to Mac, and like to customize their setups to the point which Apple doesn't typically offer.

So Apple pretty much gave up the top spec, bleeding-edge-tech market segment to Wintel. That's not where their sweet spot is.
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Although, sometimes the bleeding edge chips are the most energy efficient.

Also, Apple gave up on Intel because they wanted more efficient and faster processors of their own… the M series. They still want to satisfy power users to a great degree.
 
karranz said:
I hope they update the MacBook pro with Touch Bar, I still think I’ll miss it badly in a new model and the overall design of that macbook Pro is much
better than then current one with legacy ports, cheap keyboard, fatter and ugly notch…
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I was in the touch bar team, I still am, but I can't imagine going back to the previous model (on the way I came across the M1 Air and I felt it was a bad decision and I was right, I hate the tapered edge and no one will tell me that 8 GB is OK, it is not) after experience with the 14" M1 Pro. It is an almost perfect machine - from the screen through the speakers to the work culture.
 
MacRumors said:


Apple is planning a Mac-focused product launch, likely including the announcement of a refreshed 24-inch iMac, for the end of this month, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman reports.

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In the latest edition of his "Power On" newsletter, Gurman said that Apple is "planning a Mac-centered product launch around the end of this month" that could see the the release of a refreshed 24-inch iMac model, which is long overdue a hardware update. The current model launched in April 2021 and it is the only current-generation Mac left with the M1 chip. Gurman has repeatedly said that Apple's next iMac will skip the M2 and feature the M3 chip instead, but he declined to mention which chip the new machine will feature in this newsletter.

Gurman noted that Apple retail stores are now in short supply of the iMac, 13-inch MacBook Pro, and 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro, and many configurations now will not arrive until mid-November, in what he believes is "a clear sign that something is about to happen" regarding these three machines. He added that Apple has "made headway" on new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros. While the current, M2 Pro and M2 Max 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models launched in January, he thinks that an "additional update the same year would be unusual, but not inconceivable."

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Gurman also reiterated rumors that next-generation MacBook Air models with M3 chips will not launch until early 2024 and that a larger "pro" version of the iMac with a 32-inch display and a new design is tabled for late 2024 or 2025. Mac redesigns are apparently likely to occur when Apple begins adding touchscreens to the lineup further in the future.

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Waiting for a 27"+ new iMac. My wife is still using a 2012 27". She's a lawyer and her case management software requires her to keep multiple windows open simultaneously for cross referencing and communication. She doesn't require PRO features except for screen size. OTOH if the software she uses requires and OS upgrade at this time she has no place to go other than a Windows version.

When Apple announces a large screen iMac it's an immediate sale. There's likely a large audience of users who have older machines and would upgrade in a flash. By not having a machine like that available Apple is letting us down.
 
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