Gurman: New M2 iPad Pro Models to Be Announced 'In a Matter of Days'

[chas_m]

So what are you all using an iPad Pro for? Curious.

Thanks for asking. When I originally bought an iPad Pro, I frankly expected it to be a casual-game machine and a way to do some routine chores on the couch and little else.

As I used it, I began to understand what it could do, and I started using my MacBook Pro less … and less … and less. I do a lot of writing, and since I like to do that in a variety of places from libraries to coffeeshops and parks, I found that taking the iPad with my Magic Keyboard out was much lighter but no less productive than taking my 15“ MPB.

Recently I have learned that the main thing I really, really needed my MBP for (editing a handful of audio tracks) can also be done on an iPad … even an iPad mini (!!). I also really enjoy watching movies on the iPad Pro (with AirPods) on the plane!

My most used apps are writing apps (several), Slack & Trello, the various Apple apps for everyday productivity, the News app, the social media apps, photo-editing apps, a few Apple Arcade games, and my streaming-services apps. The iPad Pro can also be connected to a hub, which has proven handy on rare occasion (particularly for adding material on a USB-A thumb drive to my iPad).

I‘m by no means ready to sell my Macs, but … they do get kinda lonely more and more often these days …

 

[Abazigal]

Anyone else just... done with iPads since the Apple Silicon Macs came out? I find I have zero desire to bring my iPad on trips anymore. Granted, it's a 2016 iPad Pro so getting up there in years but I find myself getting along entirely with my iPhone and 2021 Macbook Pro 14.

I still use my iPad daily for teaching in the classroom. What distinguishes it from the MacBook is iOS (UI and apps optimised for touch) and the tablet form factor (not having the keyboard attached).

So at work, it’s iPad Pro in the classroom and school windows laptop at my desk. For meetings, it’s one of the two depending on whether I need to access network files or simply do note taking.

At home, it’s a toss up between my iPad, M1 MBA or 2017 5k iMac (which I share with my dad). I use my ipad for everything from reading to reviewing lesson material to light gaming to preparing screencasts to playing YouTube / music while marking my work. I have even used LumaFusion to edit simple videos for school events.

Nothing has quite been able to dislodge the iPad from my daily use case. I am likely one of those outliers who appreciates my ipad being more of a mobile device and less of a Mac. My issues with the iPad are more of third party concerns and less with Apple. Heck, bully Google and Facebook into updating their apps to sport full feature parity with their desktop apps if Apple has to.

I guess the only catch is that I don’t really need anything more from my iPad (or at least, I don’t know what more I want from it). I am okay with the iPad being a companion to the Mac, for now at least.

 

[vegetassj4]

I prefer my Galaxy Tab anyway

 

[Shirasaki]

I'm still a big fan of targeted operative systems.
An iPad is a touch first device, a computer is a pointer device (usually paired with much larger screen).
Simple as that.

I respect it, but I don't get how people want macOS on a 12" device for some real productivity.
I mean, to the level of productivity for which iPad OS isn't enough, I suspect even 12" wouldn't be enough.

I like the fact iPad OS is made specifically for the iPad.
Same thing with macOS; I welcome more features from iPad but I still want the classic desktop experience.

By the way a merge will never happen, as Apple sells many more devices this way.
Why merge iPad and macOS when you can sell people both a mac and an iPad?

Then we will see Apple reinventing macOS wheels on touch-centric iPad in the coming years while refusing to merge them, ”in response to popular demand” and “to better harness the true hardware potential of M1/M2 processor”, which a couple demanding games can easily do on its own anyways.

While I agree 11” or even 12.9” is not enough for true productivity, the limitation Of iOS will forever put iPadOS into an awkward spot: can do macOS things a little bit here and there but not quite. And those “not quite“ moments are going to be dealbreaker for many people, forcing them to either stop using iPad for their work or buy a Mac/PC as “supplementary” or main device.

Yes, there are shortcuts on iOS, but that’s a far cry from what macOS could do automation wise. Yes, there’s that files app, but lack of support on spinning disks and inability to read/write anything reliably unless APFS means external drive support is useless. Plus it still misses features compared to better third-party ones but then those third-party ones struggle to provide better integration for obvious reasons. And here’s stage manager, a cool feature Apple brought up WWDC 2022 only to be criticised with unintuitive design and bugs with external monitor support. Now it works better on iPad compared to start, but it is still far from macOS Mission Control, expose and freely resizable windows.

Apple has chosen to never merge macOS and iPadOS, which is fine, but then there are still a very long way to go to bring feature on iPadOS on par With macOS. Given the iOS foundation, I am not quite sure when they will get there, if at all.

 

[MindYourMind]

I’d say pretty slim, Primadonna Girl.

Fortunately, there is a way to not want to replace your current device and be as happy with it as the day you bought it: do not compare it 😉

 

[VaruLV]

My iPad Pro 10.5 from 2017 still works like a charm. I stay curious if the new one will have something one-more-thingy as a must have upgrade reason.

If yours doesn't have white spot issue or it has but doesn't bother you and the iPad itself does everything you need then I wouldn't bother. IPP 10.5 is, in my opinion, good looking device! And plenty capable for daily tasks that it was made for.

 

[Pezimak]

My God.

Yet ANOTHER thread chock full of “the iPad sucks/you can’t do anything on it/we want macOS on it/it’s just a toy” bullspit whiny complaints.

If you don’t like the iPad, juuuuust get a Mac, and leave those of us excited for what the iPad is and can do, alone.

-Sent from my iPad

Yes, it does get a lot of hate from those who don’t understand or accept it and what it’s meant for. For me personally I love my M1 Pro model, use it extensively. I won’t be upgrading but I’ll hopefully be upgrading a family member this Christmas as they have a very old 9.7” Pro that’s still going strong.
It‘s an incredible device, for media consumption or workflows as demonstrated in the comments on here. And it starts at less then some iPhone models, even with cellular, of course it’s not pocketable but it does kind of make it a bit better value IMO. But then again some people only have an iPhone as their computer multimedia device and use nothing else.

 

[MindYourMind]

If yours doesn't have white spot issue or it has but doesn't bother you and the iPad itself does everything you need then I wouldn't bother. IPP 10.5 is, in my opinion, good looking device! And plenty capable for daily tasks that it was made for.

It even has a headphone jack port! 😉

 

[loybond]

Doesn't make a lot of sense for the 11" to not get Mini led. I have two m1 pros, and would buy the new 11" ones if they had the hdr screen.

 

[throAU]

Apple will announce new 11-inch and 12.9-inch iPad Pro models in "a matter of days," respected Bloomberg journalist Mark Gurman said today in his latest Power On newsletter.

The new 11-inch and 12.9-inch models, codenamed J617 and J620, will be the first update to the higher-end iPad since April 2021, where both models gained the M1 chip and a new 12.-9-inch mini-LED display. For their first update in a year and a half, the upcoming iPad Pro models are expected to gain the M2 Apple silicon chip, offering faster performance and possibly new charging capabilities.

For design, the new iPads will look like the current models, with no significant changes expected. Early rumors said that the smaller 11-inch model would gain a mini-LED display, currently only available on the larger 12.9-inch model, but that is no longer expected to happen.

The new iPad Pro models could also feature some form of MagSafe charging capabilities, as per previous reports. There is also the possibility the new iPad Pro models could feature reverse-wireless charging capabilities, allowing users to charge their iPhone or AirPods on the back of the iPad.

Given the incremental update expected for the upcoming iPads, Apple is no longer planning an event for October. Apple is expected to launch the new iPads and updates to the Mac lineup through press releases and updates on its website.

Alongside the new iPad Pro models, Apple is also expected to release iPadOS 16 later this month. Unlike in past years, this year's iPadOS and iOS updates were not released simultaneously. Instead, Apple delayed iPadOS 16 until later in the fall to allow it more time to refine the update and work on Stage Manager. Stage Manager is a new multi-tasking and windowing system for specific iPad models that continues to face bugs, despite iPadOS 16's release in just a few weeks.

Article Link: Gurman: New M2 iPad Pro Models to Be Announced 'In a Matter of Days'

Bring it

Have 12.9” money sitting here waiting for the spec bump.

 

[jongriff]

Wireless charging but no design changes? It’s going to be a neat trick to wirelessly charge through the aluminum back.

My theory is that the wireless charging will be via a new Magic Keyboard case that enables wireless charging via the rumoured new 4 pin connector. No glass back needed (which would be a tricky sell in an iPad).

 

[Nismo73]

hmmmm almost time.

 

[sorgo †]

hmmmm almost time.

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Ahhh!!! That’s so exciting lol

Honestly these press releases are kinda fun, kinda like Apple’s in stealth sneak-attack mode

 

[Isengardtom]

Anyone else just... done with iPads since the Apple Silicon Macs came out? I find I have zero desire to bring my iPad on trips anymore. Granted, it's a 2016 iPad Pro so getting up there in years but I find myself getting along entirely with my iPhone and 2021 Macbook Pro 14.

I love taking my M1 12.9 on holidays with me. At home I have an M1 iMac which I use for work (next to a windows laptop) but for all the home stuff I use the iPad Pro a lot more.

The device is just very versatile. You can use the keyboard and pencil when needed, or just touch. iPads are the only devices that have that option.

Plus it's great to use when lying on the couch or watching a movie in bed or watching something on a flight.

Also I personally dislike laptops (that's why when working from home, I work more on my iMac than on the windows laptop provided by work).

I consider the iPad Pro my main computer and the iMac the sidekick. both are great though.

 

[teh_hunterer]

Most people will see the benefits of double the RAM.

Yes, but for 5.5 years that would be a little disappointing.

 

[teh_hunterer]

iPados is still too limited to even allow the m2 to stretch its legs so far, why even bother with the m2 until they start doing an overhaul of the os?

It should be said that iPadOS16 is a decent step forward for what apps are possible on the iPad. Now that virtual memory is going to be a thing on the iPad for the first time since its inception, more types of apps are possible.

 

[Lioness~]

iPad Pro Mini, come into my hands ♥️

 

[IllinoisCorn]

Apple will announce new 11-inch and 12.9-inch iPad Pro models in "a matter of days," respected Bloomberg journalist Mark Gurman said today in his latest Power On newsletter.

The new 11-inch and 12.9-inch models, codenamed J617 and J620, will be the first update to the higher-end iPad since April 2021, where both models gained the M1 chip and a new 12.-9-inch mini-LED display. For their first update in a year and a half, the upcoming iPad Pro models are expected to gain the M2 Apple silicon chip, offering faster performance and possibly new charging capabilities.

For design, the new iPads will look like the current models, with no significant changes expected. Early rumors said that the smaller 11-inch model would gain a mini-LED display, currently only available on the larger 12.9-inch model, but that is no longer expected to happen.

The new iPad Pro models could also feature some form of MagSafe charging capabilities, as per previous reports. There is also the possibility the new iPad Pro models could feature reverse-wireless charging capabilities, allowing users to charge their iPhone or AirPods on the back of the iPad.

Given the incremental update expected for the upcoming iPads, Apple is no longer planning an event for October. Apple is expected to launch the new iPads and updates to the Mac lineup through press releases and updates on its website.

Alongside the new iPad Pro models, Apple is also expected to release iPadOS 16 later this month. Unlike in past years, this year's iPadOS and iOS updates were not released simultaneously. Instead, Apple delayed iPadOS 16 until later in the fall to allow it more time to refine the update and work on Stage Manager. Stage Manager is a new multi-tasking and windowing system for specific iPad models that continues to face bugs, despite iPadOS 16's release in just a few weeks.

Article Link: Gurman: New M2 iPad Pro Models to Be Announced 'In a Matter of Days'

"a matter of days,” aka, Tuesday.

By now it should be clear Apple is the one who gives Gurman his leaked info.

 

[GeoStructural]

I just hope my iPad Pro 2018 11” can hold out until Apple decides to put a modern display in this product.

If you mean the MiniLED in the current Pro model, you are not missing out. Apple clearly over-hyped the technology, blooming is a real issue, color artifacts too. The MiniLED in my MacBook is a lot better, Apple may not acknowledge it but I think they are aware of all this.

 

[darngooddesign]

Yes, but for 5.5 years that would be a little disappointing.

What are you doing on an iPad that requires more than 8GB RAM (or 16GB on the 1TB iPad) and up to 8 live apps in VM with support for a second external 6K display?

I would like to see a BTO of 16GB RAM with less than 1TB storage.

 

[GeoStructural]

So what are you all using an iPad Pro for? Curious.

I use it for:

• Reading and annotating documents, research articles, thesis, etc.
• Teaching, I can hook it to a projector and scribble right on it.
• Drawing, a hobby I have had since I was a kid.
• Media consumption (streaming or movies I already own).
• To edit photos I took with my iPhone (taking advantage of the larger screen).

With that said, the iPad is not a computer replacement, it is pretty bad at anything other than being a tablet, and in many ways Apple has purposefully done this.

 

[teh_hunterer]

What are you doing on an iPad that requires more than 8GB RAM (or 16GB on the 1TB iPad) and up to 8 live apps in VM with support for a second external 6K display?

I would like to see a BTO of 16GB RAM with less than 1TB storage.

No, I'm saying if double the RAM is the only advancement in 5.5 years, it's disappointing.

 

[V86]

My 2018 ipad pro just cracked its screen in time for the new ipads to drop.

Going from A12X to an M prosessor is what makes me take the jump. Full external display support and better perfomance in CAD and Render apps. And I might as well just go for the M2 since it drops now. The missed discount for a m1 will fade quick.

To the people who wonder what we do on the Ipad Pro.
I havn`t owned an laptop since 2016. I went all in on Ipad Pro as my main device instead and havn`t looked back.

Some of what I do on the ipad:
- System system-administration (Web interfaces: Cisco Webex, Cisco Meraki, Salto Systems, and Office RND)
- SSH, VNC and Remote Desktop to multiple servers through apps like Blink Shell, Jump Desktop and RD client
- Take handwritten notes.
- Mind maps, Notion, Miro, Craft.do, Nebo
- Web browsing, research, brilliant, skillshare, nebula, movies, netflix, youtube etc
- 3D CD modeling and render in Shapr3D and Cadmio. This is where the improved M2 and ram can make an impact
- Learn Swift programing in Swift Playground. And python in Mimo
- Sketch and draw in Procreate. Product design and just for fun.
- Hand drawn Gif animations in Procreate
- Vector graphics in Affinity Designer
- Video editing in Luma Fusion
- Augmented reality in Shapr3D and Reality Composer
- I do lidar scans with my Iphone 12 and bring it into Shapr3d on my Ipad pro. Soon I will be able to do the same with RoomPlan and

Actually a Ipad Mini 6 has become my notepad now. And I also use it as a more portable solutions. I even to 3D CAD on it.
And if the Ipad Mini had an M2 chip in it with, it would work even better with my AR glasses from Nreal. Bringing full external display support with stage manager.


Ipad Pro does have it`s limitation, and I truly wish it will improve alot in the near future.
But I could not go back to a Macbook or laptop. I would rather Sidecar or jump desktop to a Mac server if I need something the Ipad can`t provide.

 

[darngooddesign]

No, I'm saying if double the RAM is the only advancement in 5.5 years, it's disappointing.

Sure and the only difference between a 2015 MBAir and the M1 Air is that the base M1 comes with double the RAM.

 

[uiterlix]

I have a 12.9 M1 since launch day. It's a nice and fast tablet, but .. that CPU is already heavily under utilised. The M2 will probably be even more expensive. I don't see myself upgrading the next 4 years unless some OS breakthrough comes along that'll make it a real laptop alternative. Currently it just is not, for any real computing duties I always have to fall back my 14" MBP Pro.