I imagine means bigger touchpad plus real controls. It's needed as the current MK Is just too small coming from a macbook pro
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Gurman: Redesigned Magic Keyboard to Accompany New iPad Pro
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"Hey Siri, enter Quarter-Pounder with Cheese mode"
But you got me at spurious inputs and accuracy; 10+ years of Siri and she still suddenly reads me the news when I didn't ask for it.
That experience is sub par compared to MBP. Apple and third party app developers are wasting time and resources making something that'll never be as good as on a MBP.
I mean, I know you're not going to change your mind, obviously. So what's the point?
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Gurman stating the obvious for clicks once again. Utter chancer.
Anyway, the 2018 iPad Pro is probably one the greatest products Apple has ever released but now it might finally have a true successor if we get a redesign with OLED.
Anyway, the 2018 iPad Pro is probably one the greatest products Apple has ever released but now it might finally have a true successor if we get a redesign with OLED.
which is useless for those who prefer IOS. It is a great tablet though.
One of Apple‘s biggest successes is not listening to you.
The iPad sells as much as all Mac computers combined, so Apple is correct and not you.
Full customization and unlimited options gave us Android and you wonder why no one buys an Android tablet. 😭
Sorry, but your take is pretty bad. Have a good one.
they might do but in fairness it has fit all the latest verisons so i imagine it will still work and maybe just release an updated verison which i bet may cost more
Apple's iPad revenue peaked in 2013 and unit sales peaked in 2014.
Any bumps in sales in recent years have no indication it was because of the magic keyboard. Apple never released the total sales numbers for magic keyboard. No hard data on take rate.
Sorry. You're just dead wrong.
I'm actually happy to not have Time Machine to be honest. I've got everything on it synced via iCloud to my Mac(s) and they can do Time Machine backup from there, the iPad is already backed up to iCloud.
I've actually accidentally wiped it via bad pin code before (forgot out corp policy was fewer bad pins before wipe and had just changed my pin at 4am and tried to see how many goes before I got it right) and was back up and running via iCloud backup in 30 minutes or so.
it doesn't really store a lot of data uniquely on device - YMMV. My iPad could get stolen/wiped/destroyed right now and outside of replacing the device (or in the meantime switching to one of my other devices) I wouldn't care - I'd lose basically nothing because its all synced.
iPad for me is basically for diagrams (synced to OneNote 365 or Notes), photos, GPS/Maps, light office use and ssh/rdp to multiple hosts. RDP/SSH drops when left in the background because iOS is brutal with app termination or not multitasking. The device has the power for it, let the user opt in to letting apps run in the background!
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Probably because of the artificial limitations that mean an iPad isn't *quite* good enough to be a single device to pull double duty as a lightweight laptop as well.
Apple killed the 12" MacBook; a 12.9 or 11" iPad Pro is 90% of the way there as a good replacement, outside of a couple of edge cases.
I don't even care about macOS vs. iPadOS for mobile/road-warrior use. If apps could run in the background on iOS, would not care a jot about the actual OS (most of my apps are available on both platforms now); I'd just push the desktop-y things that can't do on an iPad to a desktop Mac (or larger MacBook Pro), purchased with the funds I would have otherwise spent on "do almost everything and also be portable" MacBook Pro.
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You random MacRumor person think you know better than Apple, the most succesful company in the world and the #1 market leader in Tablets?
Go to Starbucks and you see iPads being used with a keyboard and trackpad all the time by other people.
Apple has got all the sales data and they know what they are doing. If the Apple Magic Keyboard was not considered to be good by the market, Apple would have killed it a long time ago.
Did you even read what I wrote? Obviously NOT! I said runs iOS when it’s being used as a tablet. Runs MacOS when it’s connected to a Magi Keyboard Ultra. My point is the hardware is 10 years ahead of the software. They may want to make us buy two devices, but we only need one. I don’t need an iPad Ultra for $5k if I have to own a MacBook also. The whole world tries to get by with as few of devices as necessary.
The ecosystem becomes moot when a competitor has one device that does everything. The reason why the Vision Pro costs $3500 is it will make irrelevant to those willing to spend the money having an iPad and Mac. Because the one device does it all. Apple sees the future far differently than most people here. Fortunately, Tim Crook believes in AR/VR, as he has seen it could be the thing that makes the ecosystem irrelevant. That’s factual.
So your statement misses what I said completely, and you don’t seem understanding of the future in technology. All the people that want an HDMI port when it was HDMI 1.1 or 2.0 were making a terrible case for themselves versus four TB3/4 USBC4 ports as they are higher bandwidth and far more versatile. People called it dongle hell. But it wasn’t. Anyone could buy a USBC to HDMI cable. And now we only have three ports plus HDMI. Fortunately, HDMI 2.1 is a worthy challenger to TB/USBC 4. It can handle the bandwidth properly to display resolutions but if I don’t want to connect an HDMI display, I now have less ports. This is Apple going backwards with Tim Cook in charge. Oh people want this, but people wanted a faster horse until they got a car. People wanted CD before they got digital music. People wanted BluRay before they got digital video at higher bitrates.
People want an iPad and people want a Mac but they don’t want to buy multiple devices when the hardware doesn’t require it. Why take two devices on a trip (iPad Ultra and MacBook Pro) when I only need iPad Ultra that does everything in iPadOS and MacOS? That’s the dream. I want an Ultra iPad that runs MacOS when I buy the $1k Magic Keyboard Ultra for my iPad Ultra that costs $5k.
But if some other company develops one device that runs as a great tablet, great laptop and great phone all together what do you think happens to AAPL? That is the future whether you can imagine it or not. It’s one device that we see everything and takes no space except eventually runs as contact lenses from our eyes and we are all connected to a 7G network with no latency and unlimited bandwidth. That’s what will be normal in less than 20 years, so people can complain that Apple’s Vision Pro is too expensive but AAPL has to charge someone to pay for the development costs and customers to see the Vision Pro as the future.
Right now, Apple has a simple path to ensure it dominates the tablet and laptop workspace while working flawlessly in an ecosystem with their iPhone. That product is an iPad “whatever” that runs iPadOS when used as a tablet and runs MacOS when one desires the capabilities of a Mac but they want one device that does it all. If Apple can sell that for enough money, you’re damned right they will. If it means more profits as they can sell one device versus multiple but generate the same revenue with half the costs, they would be idiots to not do it. Right now they think customer blowback will happen if they introduce a $5k iPad Ultra, but I would buy it in a heartbeat if it also ran MacOS when I connect it to the Magic Keyboard Ultra at another $1k!
Money isn’t the object here, it’s ensuring customers don’t feel alienated. And right now it’s easier for AAPL the megacompany to sell us Vision Pro. But when the vision comes through and people understand it’s more than just a headset it makes the ecosystem irrelevant is when Apple no longer worries about Meta or any other competitor beating them to the game and taking away their revenue.
Think creatively and strategically if you can.
I suspect one of two things will happen (eventually, after a long period of gestation, which you can already see happening for the past 5-10 years):
- iPadOS and macOS (and VisionOS for that matter) merge to the point where the UI just flips depending on what input and output/display devices are available
- iPadOS eventually gets the same capabilities that macOS has to the point where the requirement for macOS becomes so niche as to be almost irrelevant
macOS is an evolution of a platform that was not originally built with a chain of trust all the way from the firmware, but is eventually adopting iOS security concepts (perhaps once they've been trialed in iOS and proven to work OK).
Yes, I'm aware they're both based on a common platform going back to NEXTStep, but the UI and application libraries started in different places; iOS was built with at least some of the lessons learned from security mistakes made by every previous major platform released since the 70s.
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the same Apple that gave us butterfly switch and touchbar and thought it was a better keyboard? lol
"why should I trust them? they're the ones that gave us MOBILE ME"
Yeah pretty sure the core members responsible for those decisions in that team aren't in charge of things any more.
Pure speculation. Regardless, Tim Cook has final say on the products. The same Tim Cook that approved the $3,500 Vision Pro headset.
Yeah pretty sure history is going to be on his side on that one in the long term.
It will be just like the watch (and the iPhone for that matter). v1 will be less than stellar, but useful as a development platform. And before you know it s4 comes around and it's the dominant device in its category taking 95% of the profit in that segment.
Just like there were tablets (that were crap) before the iPad, there have been VR headsets that have focused exclusively on getting the tech down to a price point and are also relatively "crap" (I say that as someone who owns one - a quest 2). There's a market for something that isn't crap.
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One of Apples biggest mistakes is adding a feature to the iPad that if you didn't need it, it would never ever be visible or affect you in any way at all? You ok mate?
You think that's up there with the update that broke cellular worldwide, iPhone 4s antenna or the rollout of Apple Maps?
Again, I feel like they are just duplicating their efforts and wasting unnecessary time, money, and energy achieving this, if this future were to come to pass. Why duplicate 20+ years of work, when you can easily just allow dual booting and have those same macOS capabilities for a fraction of the cost? Makes no sense to me if this is the path that Apple eventually settles on, with the iPad....
The person you responded to wasn’t saying to not switch between OSes. They were just saying that a user shouldn’t be forced to switch based on if they’re using/not using a keyboard. Because someone may or may not want to use a keyboard with iPadOS or macOS.