Disagree. I absolutely love my magic keyboard and how it has changed the iPad for me. Allows me to use my iPad in so many more ways. I like that it's a great tablet if I want it, but it can also be more like a little computer too. Of course, not with all of the complexity of the Mac, but ya know what, some people just don't want that complexity sometimes.One of Apple's biggest mistakes was adding a cursor to the iPad. iPad is a touch first device, so it should be a touch first device. Magic keyboard with trackpad makes no sense and it's a classic case of listening to the customer who is wrong. Imagine when the iPhone was first released and everyone complained about a lack of keyboard so Apple shrinks the screen and adds a keyboard to the iPhone.
Apple should just ditch the magic keyboard and trackpad IMO. Let iPad be iPad and let Mac be Mac.
What makes even less sense is a touchscreen Mac. Hope Apple never makes one. Such an incredibly stupid idea.
I have an iPad Pro and a MacBook Pro.
What differentiates them isn’t the Magic Keyboard design. It’s the OS and filing system.
iOS should be ditched from the iPad and replaced with MacOS.
mind boggling that a base ipad pro and keyboard costs more than a base macbook pro/air. People should choose an ipad/keyboard combo because its more affordable than a laptop but its not. Makes no sense IMOWith a low retail price of only $499
Disagree. I absolutely love my magic keyboard and how it has changed the iPad for me. Allows me to use my iPad in so many more ways. I like that it's a great tablet if I want it, but it can also be more like a little computer too. Of course, not with all of the complexity of the Mac, but ya know what, some people just don't want that complexity sometimes.
But then you would not be able to use the keyboard with the iPadOS apps on your iPad. That seems weird. What has keyboard to do with your OS choice?Funny to see the hype around this. I own a pro, and a few others. The OS should really detect when it’s hooked up to said keyboard and transform into a full Mac OS.
I wouldn't be surprised if the next iPad Pro takes on a similar form to thisIt’s gonna end up being a Microsoft Surface Book isn’t it?
I always loved this old Vaio though, maybe they can make an unholy marriage of that and an old Magic Keyboard.
Considering iOS / iPadOS / MacOS all use the same base operating system and the differences are in the window managers and active or installed services it shouldn't be hard to use MacOS was the underlying OS at all times. When undocked from MK lock the user into Springboard and disable "MacOS features". When docked ask to confirm switching window managers / services. Could probably even fairly easily all switching between "environments" on the fly. Think a lightweight, built-in Parallels. You could even have the option at setup whether to install / configure / activate the option to switch or configure as iPadOS-only.But then you would not be able to use the keyboard with the iPadOS apps on your iPad. That seems weird. What has keyboard to do with your OS choice?
I’m not saying that it wouldn’t be interesting to try Mac OS on an iPad as an experiment, but don’t force it with some assumption how people are using their machines.
no 15 inch screen option?
looks like I may go Samsung for a tablet next year.
Did you mean you’re not in favor of a touch screen MacBook then? Personally, I am not; I only want Pencil support in order to use pen input with desktop-only applications. I would disable touch if it was supported.So you probably read my ‘deeper dive’ on convergence above, and I’d be a purchaser for various reasons, but when it comes to a ‘touch macbook’, my MBP is docked with external displays, kb, mouse a lot of it’s time, and having pencil support on the ‘bigger than older Wacom tablets’ trackpad, or even next-gen standalone magic trackpad (ideally both) would be pretty useful to me, and might manage to even sell more future-magic-trackpads and pencils. I partially ignore the trackpad entirely when at my home office desk because I have the MBP screen sitting next to my display, but I’d absolutely be adding a magic touchpad to my desk then and be using it on trackpad on the MBP when mobile.
On the ‘profiles,’ if the ‘future iPad Ultra’ were running macos, the profile switch would be more akin to a window manager or extended ‘theme’ at that point, like a desktop switcher of sorts, at worst starting/stopping a handful of services but macos at it’s core/kernel/…
I would pay way more for an iPad Ultra that has a Magic Keyboard that when I snap it onto the iPad Ultra it allows me to choose to run iPadOS or MacOS. And when no keyboard it just runs iPadOS.
Have to improve other things like 50% thicker, bigger battery, better display, bigger display, and two cameras in the bezel. Do not put a damned notch on it. Nor a dynamic island.
Give me that and make it in the free world and I say it’s worth 3x a standard iPad Pro.
The closer to a “dual device” MacBook + iPad combo we get, the more happy and productive I will be in my particular workflow.One of Apple's biggest mistakes was adding a cursor to the iPad. iPad is a touch first device, so it should be a touch first device. Magic keyboard with trackpad makes no sense and it's a classic case of listening to the customer who is wrong. Imagine when the iPhone was first released and everyone complained about a lack of keyboard so Apple shrinks the screen and adds a keyboard to the iPhone.
Apple should just ditch the magic keyboard and trackpad IMO. Let iPad be iPad and let Mac be Mac.
What makes even less sense is a touchscreen Mac. Hope Apple never makes one. Such an incredibly stupid idea.
2017 iPad Pro is still a beast. I wish I had not sold it to my gf and upgraded to the M1 iPad Pro. There is zero noticeable difference in real life or in procreate.Still on my 12.9 2017 iPad Pro, just like my iPhone X, I will use it until it stops getting security updates then switch over to the M4 iPad Pro in 2025 with Magic Keyboard.
The limits of iPad usage are imposed by the limits of one’s imagination. These devices are used everywhere for all types of activities by all kinds of people.Generally, MK for iPad Pro is a niche accessory for a niche product with very limited usage. Enough said.
A smaller version of macOS that has a larger UI that can only run iPad apps just sounds like ipadOS with more macOS capability. Maybe it’s acccurate to describe it either way, maybe it’s more accurate to describe it as a “smaller macOS”, but in my opinion people are going to be a lot more disappointed if they hear “smaller macOS” but it doesn’t run Mac applications.I wouldn't be surprised if the next iPad Pro takes on a similar form to this
Edit:
Apple wins a Patent for a next-gen hinged keyboard iPad accessory with multiple modes that could possibly double as a Hybrid Device
Today the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office officially granted Apple a patent that relates to a new hinged iPad keyboard accessory that provides multiple installation modes that could deliver superior flexibility for users. One particular patent figure would strongly suggest that the iPad could...www.patentlyapple.com
Goes hand-in-hand with this rumor from about a year ago:
Just posting to say that this is a horrible take. Apple already limits options/customization in so many ways, and you want them to limit things even more?One of Apple's biggest mistakes was adding a cursor to the iPad. iPad is a touch first device, so it should be a touch first device. Magic keyboard with trackpad makes no sense and it's a classic case of listening to the customer who is wrong. Imagine when the iPhone was first released and everyone complained about a lack of keyboard so Apple shrinks the screen and adds a keyboard to the iPhone.
Apple should just ditch the magic keyboard and trackpad IMO. Let iPad be iPad and let Mac be Mac.
What makes even less sense is a touchscreen Mac. Hope Apple never makes one. Such an incredibly stupid idea.
Approaching iPad from a PC/Mac mindset, and expecting it to be the same is indeed limiting.
Just posting to say that this is a horrible take. Apple already limits options/customization in so many ways, and you want them to limit things even more?
If you're addressing each person in this thread that you disagree with, you're gonna need to post that about 20 more times...Agree to disagree.