Gurman: Redesigned Magic Keyboard to Accompany New iPad Pro

You might want to ask yourself, 'Do I know everything about everything?' and if the answer is no, you might want to tone down the attitude.
Yet the other person literally said the same "this might be the worst post ive ever seen." but you don't want to say anything probably because you agree with that person huh?

Bias is strong.
 
My MacBook gets me there 100%.

My MacBook gets me there about 75% while working when traveling. The iPad (which has access to work apps over cell, and over iOS with specialized apps) gets me there the rest of the way. And it is a better note taking, directional machine (which I may prefer while on the road). These are two different tools.
 
Please add iPad Ultra to the lineup with macOS dualboot and keyboard with all buttons (Function keys and escape) and I'm prepared to pay.

Of course it would be best to just add this to the existing Pro lineup...

I'd love a 15/15.9 inch iPad Ultra
 
Bloomberg is another app - great iOS version on iPad and iPhone, no real MacOS version available, and is an app I use all the time while on my iOS devices, and made better by the keyboard and trackpad on iOS.
 
Of course they are and they should not be merged. That's my point. Let iPad be really good at being iPad and let Mac be really good at Mac.

Well being a really good iPad often involves a keyboard and trackpad. If you don't like using those input methods with an iPad, ignore them.
 
Agree to disagree.

I travel a lot for work. In the past, I have done iPad split screen with Bloomberg and Teams, chatting with coworkers on Bloomberg chat while also conducting a video call via teams. The keyboard and pointer were instrumental in me being productive on both sides of my screen on ma iPad. I could not have done this on a Mac, either because programs weren't available, or they had to be managed by iOS's app management system.

This is why I say "dual boot" and other innovations are unnecessary (but no reason they couldn't be options on certain models). But I think you are wrong as well, just go to any airport and hotel and you see tons of business people using iPads with keyboards.
 
iPad Pro 12.9 + keyboard weighs more than a MacBook Air and about the same as the 13-inch MBP. Also it's top heavy where typing while on the lap is wobbly. Bad experience.
Sure.

I can't ALSO draw on my MacBook, which means that I need to carry two devices when the iPad is 95% the way there. An iPad Pro plus keyboard/trackpad and pencil is much lighter than an iPad plus a MacBook (and chargers for both) of any description.


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I'm not expecting it to totally replace my MacBook Pro, but replacing it to the degree that it does the job well enough for the things I'm likely to need away from the office would be nice. I could then switch to a Mac desktop.
 
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I can travel lighter than an iPad Pro 12.9+keyboard and do light email/word processing much faster than you can I bet. Multitasking is far better on the Mac. Talk about "actual work".
I type at 120 wpm plus and manage a corporate WAN (and both cloud/on-prem environment) for a company of 60+ remote sites. What's your day job?

Multitasking would be fine on the iPad so long as it didn't terminate apps in the background (with no way for say, my ssh app to stay running), resulting in dropped terminal sessions.

Yes there are some hacky workarounds, but they're hacky.
 
I travel with a MacBook Air and an iPad when traveling for work. Both devices are essential. I wouldn't want them merged. I do want them to borrow from each other (MacBook with cell support, for example, and iPad improving its filing system)
 
I could not have done this on a Mac, either because programs weren't available, or they had to be managed by iOS's app management system.
Don't really know what you mean. I'm not talking about app availability. Talking about what makes sense in terms of interfacing with device.
 
Sure.

I can't ALSO draw on my MacBook,

Really nothing to do with keyboard + trackpad. I think pencil makes sense as it makes the iPad more like an iPad and not like a Mac. But that just pushes the scope outward to comparing pencil vs wacom + mac which gets off topic and/or too personal.
 
Cursor is terrible. It magnetically attaches to a button I don't want it to magnetically attach to. So I swipe harder to detach but then it goes past the button I want to tap.

Execution of this "versatility" is not good. There's no clear separation of responsibilities. iPad is spreading itself thin and third party developers become fragmented of who will and who will not support it.
This is not the tragedy you make it out to be. Those who feel the way you do have the choice to simply not use the Magic Keyboard! iPad’s touch capabilities are in no way diminished by the existence of trackpad and cursor input.
 
I type at 120 wpm plus and manage a corporate WAN (and both cloud/on-prem environment) for a company of 60+ remote sites. What's your day job?

Previously an Apple engineer, now ~140wpm + full stack software engineer + manager + devops for company handling various fortune 500 company clients. Relevance?
 
I want to control my iPad using air gestures when my hands are dirty from eating a saucy burger, but you don't see me complaining about Apple not including those gestures system wide because that would be an incredibly stupid idea.
Actually, that’s not a bad idea. Minority Report meets Burger King.
 
You're wrong. Waste of Apple's engineering resources and waste of customer's resources. A customer might think their favorite apps work fine with the cursor. So they invest $ into the magic keyboard only to find that it doesn't work well because developers didn't bother to support it because it was optional.

Yes talk EXACTLY about customer being wrong.
It really isn't an issue.

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Agree to disagree. Engineers are pulled away from making iPad a better iPad to making iPad more like the Mac which is a terrible path.
Well, we don’t know for sure how Apple deploys its engineers. And as for making the iPad more like the Mac, this year’s Final Cut Pro for iPad disproves that notion — it was re-engineered from the ground up for iPad. So much so that many YouTubers were complaining about how Apple made it less capable (i.e., missing THEIR favorite feature) than the Mac version.
 
Previously an Apple engineer, now ~140wpm + full stack software engineer + manager + devops for company handling various fortune 500 company clients. Relevance?
Someone calling themselves a full stack engineer who’s also full time devops *and* a manager spending an entire day rapidly posting on MR complaining that apple isnt focusing enough on an iPad being an iPad may be one of the most amusing things I’ve seen in a while. Just saying

Do your direct reports feel you’re focusing enough on being a manager?
 
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