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Halide Developers Launch New 'Mark II' Photography App

Grohowiak

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$1000+ iphone but omg omg omg $30 is too much for a app that can come close to a $3000 DSLR and in most cases for regular folks will actually create better results.
Lol what a cognitive cluster****.
 

LonestarOne

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Well, the software ProRAW is artificially limited by Apple to work only on iPhone 12 Pro models, so that’s just a viable option for the people purchasing, not only a new iOS device, but one of the most expensive (Pro) models.

It is not “artificially limited” by Apple. It needs increased RAM to run, and older iPhones (and non-pro models) don’t have it. Halide ran into similar problems when developing Coverage. The Halide developer discussed this on YouTube the other day.
 
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nutmac

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I often toggle between photos and video modes, and having to juggle two apps is a deal breaker.
 

gaanee

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Did you previously purchase Halide 1? If the upgrade to existing customers is free then why did you have to pay $30 again?
Congrats on the devs for creating a sustainable business model. They gave us users the upgrade for free (wow) and new customers can pay once OR pay once a year. I look forward to seeing what they do with the next iPhone as well. They have given us hundreds of features over the years without asking for an extra cent.

Edit just paid a one-time purchase. $30 for 3-5 more years of great software development that keeps up with Apple's innovation in ML & camera tech is worth it. People spending $1000-$1500 on iPhones because 'better cameras' then complaining about a $30 app. sigh.
 
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adamjackson

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I'd say people have every right to complain for that exact reason. Spending $1500 because and yet the stock app is so bare-bones and underpowered that they have to fork out even more money to properly utilise the cameras....

take that complaint up with Apple, not 3rd party app developers.

Did you previously purchase Halide 1? If the upgrade to existing customers is free then why did you have to pay $30 again?

'free for 1 year' You get all of the newest version 2 features for 12 months. I wanted to just bite the bullet now and spend the today reduced $30 lifetime and get it for cheaper than it'll be a year from now...and I wanted to support the developers who have worked REALLY hard on this.
 

Charles50

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Where did you see Halide's suggestion to delete and reinstall? Their tech support web page is dead. I can't use the app without subscribing.
 

fumi2014

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Sweet icon for unlocking early.
 

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averagenerd81

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Out there man
Hey folks, so sorry about that bug. There's an update out now and it's (correctly) free for everyone who got Halide v1. If you ran into issue please contact us directly. I hope you love the new update!

Thank you. Don't take things personally here, some people want to blow out of proportion how others have responded (like me being annoyed at the update ... annoyed = minor inconvenience). I appreciate the app and the decision to allow me to have the new version without further cost.

I have enjoyed Halide since first downloading it.
 
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deevey

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$36 for an iOS app? These devs are crazy. I would never charge that much.

If this app was available on a PC a couple of years ago it'd would've cost hundreds of dollars. Just because it's a phone do you think there is any less development involved ?

You are obviously not the target market.
 
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averagenerd81

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Out there man
$1000+ iphone but omg omg omg $30 is too much for a app that can come close to a $3000 DSLR and in most cases for regular folks will actually create better results.
Lol what a cognitive cluster****.

Let's be honest, this app (or ANY app out there) does not come close to even a $1000 mILC/DLSR. It's not the fault of the app, it's "just physics".

Acting like this only makes the situation worse because people think this app makes their camera in their phone the same as some high end gear.

It's a great app for what it does, but it is not magic. Lets stop with the silly comparisons here. Manual controls do not equal a large sensor with huge supply of glass.
 

Joseph C

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Pay for a monthly sub, $9.99 per year (locked in at that price) then you can change the icon in the settings. You have to have already taken 1000 exposures.
1000 exposures? How does it know if you've done that? I'm without a phone today until tomorrow's iPhone 12 comes but I plan to clean install.
 

gaanee

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That's a sneaky move. Their app description and announcement says free upgrade to Mark II. Even though they are giving one year subscription, it's still a subscription.
Are they giving any discount on one-time purchase for existing customers?
When I bought Halide version 1 when it was launched, it was based on the assumption that it was a one-time purchase, which it was at the time. What's the guarantee this won't repeat again? Right now, we think $30 is one-time purchase but they could charge again for the next upgrade.
I would have appreciated if instead of one year subscription they offered a discount on one-time upgrade for existing customers who bought and supported its first version thinking that it was a one-time purchase. One year free subscription is not useful because I don't want to subscription route for a camera app.

take that complaint up with Apple, not 3rd party app developers.



'free for 1 year' You get all of the newest version 2 features for 12 months. I wanted to just bite the bullet now and spend the today reduced $30 lifetime and get it for cheaper than it'll be a year from now...and I wanted to support the developers who have worked REALLY hard on this.
 
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QuarterSwede

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If Halide can’t win with all the options they give you then no app developer can. It just shows that people want everything for free or no more than $5.

Halide 2 offers 3 options:
  • Halide 1 buyers get Halide 2 for free for a year (when the system works, it did for me. They’re working on a fix)
  • New buyers can buy it outright for $30 USD
  • New buyers can sub for $9.99/year if they can’t afford to buy it outright or don’t want to.
2 options for new buyers and 1 year for free to exisiting buyers of Halide 1 and people STILL complain. Honestly $30 for a pro app is DIRT CHEAP compared to what Pros normally pay for manual control, live histograms, etc
 

calstanford

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$1000+ iphone but omg omg omg $30 is too much for a app that can come close to a $3000 DSLR and in most cases for regular folks will actually create better results.
Lol what a cognitive cluster****.

Please stop ********ting.

"app that can come close to a $3000 DSLR"

It's an app, not a magic machine. It doesn't take the same photos as a 45MP Full Frame Nikon Z7. The noise is horrendous (as is to be expected by a tiny 1/2.55" sensor. Physics is physics after all)
 
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gaanee

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Are they giving any discount on one-time purchase for existing customers?
When I bought Halide version 1 when it was launched, it was based on the assumption that it was a one-time purchase, which it was at the time. What's the guarantee this won't repeat again? Right now, we think $30 is one-time purchase but they could charge again for the next upgrade.
I would have appreciated if instead of one year subscription they offered a discount on one-time upgrade for existing customers who bought and supported its first version thinking that it was a one-time purchase. One year free subscription is not useful because I don't want to subscription route for a camera app.

If Halide can’t win with all the options they give you then no app developer can. It just shows that people want everything for free or no more than $5.

Halide 2 offers 3 options:
  • Halide 1 buyers get Halide 2 for free for a year (when the system works, it did for me. They’re working on a fix)
  • New buyers can buy it outright for $30 USD
  • New buyers can sub for $9.99/year if they can’t afford to buy it outright or don’t want to.
2 options for new buyers and 1 year for free to exisiting buyers of Halide 1 and people STILL complain. Honestly $30 for a pro app is DIRT CHEAP compared to what Pros normally pay for manual control, live histograms, etc
 

averagenerd81

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Jun 2, 2020
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Out there man
Are they giving any discount on one-time purchase for existing customers?
When I bought Halide version 1 when it was launched, it was based on the assumption that it was a one-time purchase, which it was at the time. What's the guarantee this won't repeat again? Right now, we think $30 is one-time purchase but they could charge again for the next upgrade.
I would have appreciated if instead of one year subscription they offered a discount on one-time upgrade for existing customers who bought and supported its first version thinking that it was a one-time purchase. One year free subscription is not useful because I don't want to subscription route for a camera app.

As an existing user you don’t need to pay anything. So far the subscription doesn’t offer much of anything. The camera app works just fine without it.
 

gaanee

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It works because its an upgrade + one year subscription, so effectively its not a free upgrade as the developers say. So after one year you have pay the full price if you want to continue using.
I understand supporting developers is important but at the same time the upgrade path should also be favorable to existing customers who bought it in the first place because it was a one-time purchase. Right now we once again think its a one-time purchase but what's the guarantee that for the next upgrade they won't charge again?
One year free subscription is like giving a trial version to existing customers who paid for it and didn't want any subscription.

As an existing user you don’t need to pay anything. So far the subscription doesn’t offer much of anything. The camera app works just fine without it.
 
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