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aquajet said:
Please provide reputable psychological research to support this claim.

As to America's stress:
http://panicdisorder.about.com/od/anxietymoreinfo/a/americastressed.htm

About one-third of Americans have felt or feel close to having nervous breakdowns, according to a 1996 study released in the July 2000 issue of American Psychologist

As to marijuana and stress:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001945.htm
Popular use of marijuana has arisen because of its effects of euphoria (feeling of joy), relaxation...

http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/files/statfiles/document-53.pdf (@ http://scholar.google.com/scholar?h...oyalsoc.ac.uk/files/statfiles/document-53.pdf )
Cannabis is likely to produce euphoria, relaxation, a feeling of being "spaced out" and a
keener appreciation of the sensory environment, and it is for those reasons that it is taken
(WHO 1997)

http://www.ndaa-apri.org/pdf/ntlc_cannabis.pdf
Cannabis’s behavioral and physiologic effects have
been well described [5,98,220]. Behavioral effects in-
clude feelings of euphoria and relaxation...

enough?
 
OutThere...

I guess I wasn't clear enough in regards to my request. I meant valid, empirically-verifiable scientific evidence within the medical community to support your claim that marijuana possesses legitimate therapeutic properties in the treatment of generalized stress. I'm looking for something a bit more noteworthy than "smoke this and tell me how you feel."

Did you bother to read your own citations?

Popular use of marijuana has arisen because of its effects of euphoria (feeling of joy), relaxation, and increased visual, auditory, and taste perceptions that may occur with low-to-moderate doses. Most users also report an increase in their appetite ("the munchies").

Unpleasant effects that may occur include depersonalization (inability to distinguish oneself from others), changed body image, disorientation and acute panic reactions or severe paranoia.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001945.htm

A sense of euphoria is felt by regular cannabis users, intermittent users tend not to feel euphoric, but lose co-ordination instead. Higher doses of cannabis produce loss of concentration and drowsiness, and cause perceptual changes that may result in dysphoria.
...
Cannabis can induce dose-related, short-term mental disturbances; effects include anxiety, panic, paranoid delusions, feelings of unreality, and distortions in perception.

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?h...oyalsoc.ac.uk/files/statfiles/document-53.pdf

As you can see, this information does nothing more than explain the common effects of THC intoxication. It in no manner speaks to the question of marijuana's theraputic value in regards to generalized stress. In fact, it kind of refutes your claim altogether, considering how some folks report temporary feelings of "euphoria," while others report "paranoia."

To be fair, your citations did touch on the legitimate medical research conducted thus far in regards to marijuana's theraputic value to cancer, AIDS and glaucoma patients, as well as its value as a pain killer and anti-emetic.
 
This thread is a major buzzkill. The title is so misleading.

By the way, I don't really care about it being legalized just decriminalized. I don't think someone with just a gram in their pocket should be arrested and lose their jobs. It should still remain illegal to drive under the influence, sell it, be openly inebriated, and have large quantities. I think that would be pretty fair. I just really hate the idea of my tax dollars housing someone whose only crime is having some marijuana in their pocket.
 
itcheroni said:
This thread is a major buzzkill. The title is so misleading.

By the way, I don't really care about it being legalized just decriminalized. I don't think someone with just a gram in their pocket should be arrested and lose their jobs. It should still remain illegal to drive under the influence, sell it, be openly inebriated, and have large quantities. I think that would be pretty fair. I just really hate the idea of my tax dollars housing someone whose only crime is having some marijuana in their pocket.
Agreed. On all counts.
 
aquajet said:
OutThere...

I guess I wasn't clear enough in regards to my request. I meant valid, empirically-verifiable scientific evidence within the medical community to support your claim that marijuana possesses legitimate therapeutic properties in the treatment of generalized stress. I'm looking for something a bit more noteworthy than "smoke this and tell me how you feel."

Did you bother to read your own citations?





As you can see, this information does nothing more than explain the common effects of THC intoxication. It in no manner speaks to the question of marijuana's theraputic value in regards to generalized stress. In fact, it kind of refutes your claim altogether, considering how some folks report temporary feelings of "euphoria," while others report "paranoia."

To be fair, your citations did touch on the legitimate medical research conducted thus far in regards to marijuana's theraputic value to cancer, AIDS and glaucoma patients, as well as its value as a pain killer and anti-emetic.

I'm not going to bother.

Empirically verify that toking up takes the edge off.

:rolleyes:
 
The Streets song irony of it all.

very very appropriate lyrics from a song from great hip hop/ garagae band the streets. reminding me of some people weed opinions on these threads. :)

link to song on itunes

i imagine the people against grass to sound like terry from the song.

Hello, Hello. My names Terry and I'm a law abider
There's nothing I like more than getting fired up on beer
And when the weekends here I to exercise my right to get paralytic and fight
Good bloke fairly
But I get well leery when geezers look at me funny
Bounce 'em round like bunnies
I'm likely to cause mischief
Good clean grief you must believe and I ain't no thief.
Law abiding and all, all legal.
And who cares about my liver when it feels good
Wwhat you need is some real manhood.
Rasher Rasher Barney and Kasha putting peoples backs up.
Public disorder, I'll give you public disorder.
I down eight pints and run all over the place
Spit in the face of an officer
See if that bothers you cause I never broke a law in my life
Someday I'm gonna settle down with a wife
Come on lads lets have another fight

Eh hello. My names Tim and I'm a criminal,
In the eyes of society I need to be in jail
For the choice of herbs I inhale.
This ain't no wholesale operation
Just a few eighths and some Playstations my's vocation
I pose a threat to the nation
And down the station the police hold no patience
Let's talk space and time
I like to get deep sometimes and think about Einstein
And Carl Jung And old Kung Fu movies I like to see
Pass the hydrator please
Yeah I'm floating on thin air.
Going to Amsterdam in the New Year - top gear there
Cause I take pride in my hobby
Home made bongs using my engineering degree
Dear Leaders, please legalise weed for these reasons.

Like I was saying to him.
I told him: "Top with me and you won't leave."
So I smacked him in the head and downed another Carling
Bada Bada Bing for the lad's night.
Mad fight, his face's a sad sight.
Vodka and Snake Bite.
Going on like a right geez, he's a ****,
Shouldn't have looked at me like that.
Anyway I'm an upstanding citizen
If a war came along I'd be on the front line with em.
Can't stand crime either them hooligans on heroin.
Drugs and criminals those thugs on the penny coloured will be the downfall of society
I've got all the anger pent up inside of me.

You know I don't see why I should be the criminal
How can something with no recorded fatalities be illegal
And how many deaths are there per year from alcohol
I just completed Gran Tourismo on the hardest setting
We pose no threat on my settee
Ooh the pizza's here will someone let him in please
"We didn't order chicken, Not a problem we'll pick it out
I doubt they meant to mess us about
After all we're all adults not louts."
As I was saying, we're friendly peaceful people
We're not the ones out there causing trouble.
We just sit in this hazy bubble with our quarters
Discussing how beautiful Gail Porter is.
MTV, BBC 2, Channel 4 is on until six in the morning.
Then at six in the morning the sun dawns and it's my bedtime.

Causing trouble, your stinking rabble
Boys saying I'm the lad who's spoiling it
You're on drugs it really bugs me when people try and tell me I'm a thug
Just for getting drunk
I like getting drunk
Cause I'm an upstanding citizen
If a war came along I'd be on the front line with em.

Now Terry you're repeating yourself
But that's okay drunk people can't help that.
A chemical reaction inside your brain causes you to forget what you're saying.

What. I know exactly what I'm saying
I'm perfectly sane
You stinking student lameo
Go get a job and stop robbing us of our taxes.

Err, well actually according to research
Government funding for further education pales in insignificance
When compared to how much they spend on repairing
Leery drunk people at the weekend
In casualty wards all over the land.

Why you cheeky little swine come here
I'm gonna batter you. Come here.
 
OutThere said:
I'm not going to bother.

I didn't think you would. This is also a common side effect of habitual marijuana use.

If you're serious about evangelizing marijuana and its legitimate qualities, then please come up with something more substantial than "toking up takes the edge off."
 
aquajet said:
I didn't think you would. This is also a common side effect of habitual marijuana use.

If you're serious about evangelizing marijuana and its legitimate qualities, then please come up with something more substantial than "toking up takes the edge off."

i have to work in big groups of people who have big influence. a hit of grass often helps mes to "take edge off" and be more relax.
 
pedrov said:
i have to work in big groups of people who have big influence. a hit of grass often helps mes to "take edge off" and be more relax.

Ok, well.. hmm, if I was one of those people with influence, last person I'd listen to is the stoned guy.
 
It's funny though. My brother is a very heavy drug user and has developed schizophrenia. And a few other mental problems to boot. In a family where nobody has done drugs and with no mental health issues, there has to be some link. Maybe not a cause but certainly a link.

Also the only druggies I know are violent, scary, moodswinging people. I never intentionally talk to them. They usually find me... somehow. they have powers.
 
I know many doctors, lawyers, business owners...etc that smoke and none of them are violent, scary...etc In fact, most of them are very productive members of society... What someone does in thier own home is non of my (or anyone else's) business! As long as they are not hurting anyone ;)

just my opinion of course... :cool:
 
Electro Funk said:
I know many doctors, lawyers, business owners...etc that smoke and none of them are violent, scary...etc In fact, most of them are very productive members of society... What someone does in thier own home is non of my (or anyone else's) business! As long as they are not hurting anyone ;)

just my opinion of course... :cool:
Well said.
 
raggedjimmi said:
It's funny though. My brother is a very heavy drug user and has developed schizophrenia. And a few other mental problems to boot. In a family where nobody has done drugs and with no mental health issues, there has to be some link. Maybe not a cause but certainly a link.

Also the only druggies I know are violent, scary, moodswinging people. I never intentionally talk to them. They usually find me... somehow. they have powers.

I have seen the same behavior and sometimes from drugs. But never from weed. The folks I know who smoke weed are ,,, ok. They just want me to drive them to international house of pancakes too often. I think the real problem is waffles.
 
ibook30 said:
I have seen the same behavior and sometimes from drugs. But never from weed. The folks I know who smoke weed are ,,, ok. They just want me to drive them to international house of pancakes too often. I think the real problem is waffles.
Yeah, you have to categorize certain drugs. Some are obviously worse than others. Raves a lot of times are perfect examples I had to experience. It was a nice cultural experience. Sure many of the people were on psychedelics, weeds, ecstasy and everyone kind of looks weird and like some "space cadet," but probably 70% of those people just wake up the next day and go back to their everyday jobs and lives and people would never know the difference.

For example, you can't put crystal meth (see plenty of that in Arkansas/South), heroin, PCP and others in the same category as say marijuana and in my opinion, ecstasy as well.

jon
 
pedrov said:
i have to work in big groups of people who have big influence. a hit of grass often helps mes to "take edge off" and be more relax.


taking three fioricets also takes the edge off for me. Does that mean it should be over the counter legal. Helllls no.
 
aquajet said:
I didn't think you would. This is also a common side effect of habitual marijuana use.

Am I a habitual marijuana user? No. Have I ever used marijuana regularly? No. Do I plan on ever using marijuana regularly? No. Do I believe that people should have the right to do so as they please? Yes.

I didn't bother finding the rest of your evidence, because, in my experience with internet forums, the more evidence I provided for this and that, the more problems and questions you would pose for me to answer.

I just think that marijuana has been given a very bad name through a series of false-info propaganda, myths, and gov't drug programs. Hell, 150 years ago masturbation was the devil and extremely discouraged...:rolleyes:
 
OutThere said:
Am I a habitual marijuana user? No. Have I ever used marijuana regularly? No. Do I plan on ever using marijuana regularly? No. Do I believe that people should have the right to do so as they please? Yes.

I didn't bother finding the rest of your evidence, because, in my experience with internet forums, the more evidence I provided for this and that, the more problems and questions you would pose for me to answer.

I just think that marijuana has been given a very bad name through a series of false-info propaganda, myths, and gov't drug programs. Hell, 150 years ago masturbation was the devil and extremely discouraged...:rolleyes:

Well put, and an excellent response. Cheers.
 
sethypoo said:
I live in a very "pot friendly" city, and I hate April 20th every year. I hate the smell of pot, I hate what it does to people, and I hate how people think it's "cool" to smoke it.

Grow up.:rolleyes: :mad:
Umm, OK, "sethypoo". I'll grow up.
Sarcasm aside, I respect the fact that you don't like it, nor the smell of it, and that being the case I would never force you to "deal with it" or endure it. I respect personal choice on all issues, even when they don't coincide with my own likes and dislikes, but with a username such as that it is hard to take your comments seriously. Hmm...sort of like how you would have a hard time taking comments of a "pothead" seriously. Get what I'm saying?
 
just so everybody knows, ip adresses are traceable, and all you druggies could get busted for talking about what you do.

please don't do drugs, and if you feel that you must, don't talk about it on the forums as there are kids and teens on these forums who may believe you if you are kidding or think "oh, if a mr.com forum 'friend' does pot, why don't i?"

drugs are bad and illegal, don't do them!
 
OutThere said:
I just think that marijuana has been given a very bad name through a series of false-info propaganda, myths, and gov't drug programs. Hell, 150 years ago masturbation was the devil and extremely discouraged...:rolleyes:

You think in 150 years, pot will no longer have its negative affects or something? It will always be bad. It has been given a bad name because it is bad.
 
Democrat622 said:
just so everybody knows, ip adresses are traceable, and all you druggies could get busted for talking about what you do.
Thanks for the legal advice :rolleyes:.

Democrat622 said:
please don't do drugs, and if you feel that you must, don't talk about it on the forums as there are kids and teens on these forums who may believe you if you are kidding or think "oh, if a mr.com forum 'friend' does pot, why don't i?"

If these kids and teens are feeling peer pressure from my typed text then the internet is probably not the safest place to be prowling in their free time.

Democrat622 said:
drugs are bad and illegal, don't do them!
By the way, thanks for telling me how to live my life ;)

jon
 
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