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Suddenly I see many iPhone X around. 2 in 10 ratio I would say (including Android). It’s definitely a lot but I live in London if that makes any difference so there might be a natural bias towards iPhones.

I think the iPhone has such a strong following not just because it's a well-made iPhone and iOS, but because Apples marketing is so dominant in the media today. And consumers tend to focus on what they see, and the iPhone is one of those phones that is unavoidable.
 
How does everybody else notice them? guessing the camera is the most obvious way to tell.

Yep, the camera is/was in my case the obvious distinguishing feature. Then there's obviously the screen if the person happens to be close enough. One of the people I noticed using one also used the ringtone exclusive to the X (same as me), so there's that as well.

And just for the record, I'm about as far away removed from any sort of "celebrity" status as one can be (and that's the way I like it), as were the people I mentioned in my post. Just your average folks using and enjoying their devices.

This thread has taken an interesting turn.
 
Have yet to see anyone in the wild with an iPhone X. Interestingly also. When ppl see that I have an X. It doesn’t really prompt the oooh let me seee reaction. It’s more like they ask if it is the new iPhone. You say yes. And that’s about it.

They just sort of give you a shoulder shrug if you ask if they want to play with the phone. Or a nah, not interested. Out of all the people that I have shown it to. Only one person seemed interested in actually playing with it. Just doesn’t seem there is much interest in the phone.
 
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You’re not in a league high enough to know what a Vertu is then.

They are super expensive smartphones ranging from about 5 to 20 grand. Think they’ve recently stopped manufacturing due to poor sales. They were the status symbol smartphones and everything the iPhone X isn’t. Only the rich and famous owned them.

Looks like ugly Android to me. And is that a Nokia?

Must be a UK thing. You guys never understood prestige.
 
Looks like ugly Android to me. And is that a Nokia?

Must be a UK thing. You guys never understood prestige.
Anyone buying that spent almost 10 times what you spent on the X. Just like how you find the notch identifiable that look is a signature for the 10k spent on that phone.
 
Anyone buying that spent almost 10 times what you spent on the X. Just like how you find the notch identifiable that look is a signature for the 10k spent on that phone.

That's fair, I'm not denying that some lame company selling Android's and Nokia's with glued-on leather and gold bits tried to pass them off as some status symbol. I'm just saying it never hit my radar here in the United States and that's saying something considering my net worth and executive/social standing.

It's also just a further testament to the power of the iPhone. When a manufacturer makes a product so good that living without it is unthinkable you get locked in their ecosystem and there's no reason to leave. If Apple only offered the SE and every day laborer and bus driver in the world owned one, I'd own one too. The point of the X is to allow the superior portion of society to have an iPhone that is more in line with their lifestyle and design standards.
 
That's fair, I'm not denying that some lame company selling Android's and Nokia's with glued-on leather and gold bits tried to pass them off as some status symbol. I'm just saying it never hit my radar here in the United States and that's saying something considering my net worth and executive/social standing.

It's also just a further testament to the power of the iPhone. When a manufacturer makes a product so good that living without it is unthinkable you get locked in their ecosystem and there's no reason to leave. If Apple only offered the SE and every day laborer and bus driver in the world owned one, I'd own one too. The point of the X is to allow the superior portion of society to have an iPhone that is more in line with their lifestyle and design standards.
It's for a group quite a bit more exclusive than that.
 
That's fair, I'm not denying that some lame company selling Android's and Nokia's with glued-on leather and gold bits tried to pass them off as some status symbol. I'm just saying it never hit my radar here in the United States and that's saying something considering my net worth and executive/social standing.

It's also just a further testament to the power of the iPhone. When a manufacturer makes a product so good that living without it is unthinkable you get locked in their ecosystem and there's no reason to leave. If Apple only offered the SE and every day laborer and bus driver in the world owned one, I'd own one too. The point of the X is to allow the superior portion of society to have an iPhone that is more in line with their lifestyle and design standards.

It never hit the radar in the US or any other country for that matter because pretty much no one can afford it. It's a true luxury product.
 
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It's for a group quite a bit more exclusive than that.

It certainly sounds like it. But in order for a product to be an internationally recognized status symbol it needs to be instantly recognizable to all walks of society. I know people who aren't impressed or insanely jealous over a $200K Patek Philippe wristwatch because they've never heard of the brand, if they saw one lying in the street they'd leave it there because they don't need a mechanical timepiece.

Mercedes, BMW, Porsche, Rolex, Louis Vuitton....these are instantly recognizable brands whose top-of-the-line offerings are well known and admired. Same now too for iPhone with the exclusive X. Can't say the same of Vertu as very few people have ever heard of it.
 
It certainly sounds like it. But in order for a product to be an internationally recognized status symbol it needs to be instantly recognizable to all walks of society. I know people who aren't impressed or insanely jealous over a $200K Patek Philippe wristwatch because they've never heard of the brand, if they saw one lying in the street they'd leave it there because they don't need a mechanical timepiece.

Mercedes, BMW, Porsche, Rolex, Louis Vuitton....these are instantly recognizable brands whose top-of-the-line offerings are well known and admired. Same now too for iPhone with the exclusive X. Can't say the same of Vertu as very few people have ever heard of it.
Fairly common everyday luxury that is known to the layperson vs. true rare luxury that is truly exclusive.
 
So let me get this straight...
Vertu takes a common Android OS experience, packages it in a distictively fugly package to distinguish it from other Android phones
Charges an outrageous amount of money for it, because... yeah
and because it is so fugly, some silly people see it, recognize its distinct fugliness and say Oooooooooo MONEY

What am I missing?
 
So let me get this straight...
Vertu takes a common Android OS experience, packages it in a distictively fugly package to distinguish it from other Android phones
Charges an outrageous amount of money for it, because... yeah
and because it is so fugly, some silly people see it, recognize its distinct fugliness and say Oooooooooo MONEY

What am I missing?
Quite similar to the notch being praised.
 
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It never hit the radar in the US or any other country for that matter because pretty much no one can afford it. It's a true luxury product.
There were several Vertu shops in the UAE malls and generally in the middle east also a few high end watch shops also had them

It' quite common to see run of the mill rolex customised with diamonds out there

There was a recent UK TV programme about worlds most expensive Xmas presents

It's surprising if you have the cash what some spend for exclusivity
 
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Looks like ugly Android to me. And is that a Nokia?

Must be a UK thing. You guys never understood prestige.

They were indeed crap phones that used Nokia and Android software but cost a fortune and appealed to image conscious people like yourself. Funny that they used Android software and you have claimed many times that’s for poor people with no class. I’m surprised you’d never heard of Vertu considering it only appealed to millionaires, real ones though.

You are right though, us Brits never did understand prestige. We tried our hardest inventing brands like Bentley, Rolls Royce, Aston Martin, Ascari, Range Rover (one of your favourites), and Rolex (another one of your favourites and founded in Britain). We even sold our faux prestige and class system to the yanks once upon a time. I do wonder if this is a face palm moment?
 
Fairly common everyday luxury that is known to the layperson vs. true rare luxury that is truly exclusive.

Yes, exactly.

The average person tends to rage with jealousy over things that are just out of his reach, not things in a different stratosphere. The french fry guy at McDonald's in his $19,000 Honda can imagine himself in my $65,000 BMW that he can't have, it's not like a $20 million dollar Learjet is going to make him spit in the oil in anger.
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They were indeed crap phones that used Nokia and Android software but cost a fortune and appealed to image conscious people like yourself. Funny that they used Android software and you have claimed many times that’s for poor people with no class. I’m surprised you’d never heard of Vertu considering it only appealed to millionaires, real ones though.

That logic applies to my mom's generation, not mine. Quality always trumps showmanship, putting lipstick on an Android/Nokia pig isn't going to make it a supermodel. It's probably why the brand never made it in the USA.

You are right though, us Brits never did understand prestige. We tried our hardest inventing brands like Bentley, Rolls Royce, Aston Martin, Ascari, Range Rover (one of your favourites), and Rolex (another one of your favourites and founded in Britain). We even sold our faux prestige and class system to the yanks once upon a time. I do wonder if this is a face palm moment?

God Save The Queen.
 
Yes, exactly.

The average person tends to rage with jealousy over things that are just out of his reach, not things in a different stratosphere. The french fry guy at McDonald's in his $19,000 Honda can imagine himself in my $65,000 BMW that he can't have, it's not like a $20 million dollar Learjet is going to make him spit in the oil in anger.
I doubt he’s jealous, he probably just assumes you are like 9 out of 10 BMW drivers on the road and are a sales rep in a company car. I bet the French fry guy is a nice chap though with his modest income and reliable decent motor.
 
That logic applies to my mom's generation, not mine. Quality always trumps showmanship, putting lipstick on an Android/Nokia pig isn't going to make it a supermodel. It's probably why the brand never made it in the USA.
Yet you’ve claimed many times here to use superficial products to boost the perception you think others have of you because you want them to think you’re wealthy. A Vertu was popular mainly with the oil rich in the Middle East and had a pretty minor following in its country of origin. It didn’t make it in the States because it was never really marketed over there. The plastic wives of Orange County in their mock british mansions preferred iPhones like most average people.

It certainly highlighted that your £1k status symbol X paled in comparison to a rare unusual device that cost twenty times more, even if it was crap to use.

God Save The Queen.
I bet you were gutted to see so many prestige British brands mentioned all at once after the silly statement you made though. Credit where it’s due

Can you name any prestige American brands that I might know?
 
Yes, exactly.

The average person tends to rage with jealousy over things that are just out of his reach, not things in a different stratosphere. The french fry guy at McDonald's in his $19,000 Honda can imagine himself in my $65,000 BMW that he can't have, it's not like a $20 million dollar Learjet is going to make him spit in the oil in anger.
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That logic applies to my mom's generation, not mine. Quality always trumps showmanship, putting lipstick on an Android/Nokia pig isn't going to make it a supermodel. It's probably why the brand never made it in the USA.



God Save The Queen.
I guess if the definition of luxury is about making others rage...sure.

But then again caring about what others think, especially to the point of trying to get some sort of a reaction out of them, well, that's a whole other "thing".
 
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It depends. If you can't afford an iPhone X I doubt you've ever heard of Ralph Lauren or Michael Kors. Does Coca Cola ring a bell?
I said prestige brands not High Street brands. You said Brits ‘never could do prestige’ and I named brands like Rolls Royce, Bentley, Aston Martin and Rolex. All luxury brands. I ask you for America equivalents and you give me a polo shirt company, a tacky fashion watch and handbag brand and a soft drink? haha!

I’ve never made the claim I can’t afford an iPhone X either, you just made that up old bean ;)
 
Yeah, so you guys are making me consider selling the X and going back to a rotary phone. It appears people could, and will draw pretty wide conclusions about others based on purchase decisions...

Then again, if I'm running around town with a rotary phone there's bound to be at least one funnyman calling me a hipster. Sometimes in life there's just no way to win.
 
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I haven’t seen a single iPhone X out in the wild yet even though I live in a rich city with the Porsche and Mercedes HQ.

However people are known to be cheap f here so I am not actually surprised haha

That's why they are rich, they know how to administer and spent their money wisely. If their iPhone 6 works then, there's no reason to upgrade.
 
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