Get the Vision Pro and you too can be the coolest sci-fi doofus on the block.
5 million in when? They can currently only make an estimated 500k per year....Anything less than 5 million is an abject failure. To wit, the Apple Watch was labeled a complete dud when it 'only' sold 4 million the first year. Thankfully it was cheap enough and had a killer app (health sensors that can save your life) that catapulted it to stardom. The AVP costs 10x more, can't save your life, and will destroy what little coolness or social life you've had. Not a recipe for success.
The Mac was an incremental improvement over the Apple II. The iPhone was an incremental improvement over smartphones.The thing is, the AVP doesn’t solve any of the technical issues that prevents us from building true-AR smart glasses and contact lenses. Apple also didn’t create this vision of the future, it’s been there since the 90s. So what’s the point? This is an incrementally better version of the Quest, but also worse for gaming and exercising, and very expensive. To repeat, it doesn’t solve any of the fundamental issues that existing VR headsets exhibit.
It’s ultimately the market who decides if Apple was correct at identifying future trends or not. It wasn’t difficult to imagine twenty years ago that maybe someday we could combine our flip phones and Palm devices (remember those?) into one advanced device that did everything a powerful portable mini computer with a camera and phone built in could possibly do (and then some). A device we would continue to buy again and again over the next few decades. Apple showed the way initially and companies like Samsung/Google began to lead the way with new features that Apple eventually copied. The AVP feels more like a bulky transition product to me. A placeholder for something better to come, something that will look very different from what we have today.I think you took that all just a weeeeeeeeeeeee bit too seriously. I wasn't defending Apple, I was criticizing the people who comment here. I don't need to write what I already wrote again, so you can go back and re-read it if you're confused or unsure by why I wrote it.
The point that you missed is that everyone here thinks they know better than Apple, but for some strange reason, they don't take that superior knowledge and go out and beat Apple at their own game, becoming rich in the process.
I watched people complain and moan about the iPod, and its cost compared to other Mp3 players. Then I watched everyone whine and moan about every iteration of the iPod that came out, and of course they all did fantastic. Then I watched as people were interested in the iPhone, but wrote it off because of its price and the lack of a physical keyboard. Then I watched as everyone laughed at the ridiculously named "iPad" which was just a larger iPhone. A decade and change later, oops. Then the same thing happened with the Apple Watch, etc. You can probably see where I'm going with this.
Apple is far better than the people of this forum at identifying future trends and creating projects that go on to be pillars of what Apple is known for. But sure, THIS TIME, everyone here is right.
if someone’s social life can be destroyed just by them making a purchase of a technology product, maybe it’s time to get a new social life.will destroy what little coolness or social life you've had. Not a recipe for success.
Anything less than 5 million is an abject failure. To wit, the Apple Watch was labeled a complete dud when it 'only' sold 4 million the first year. Thankfully it was cheap enough and had a killer app (health sensors that can save your life) that catapulted it to stardom. The AVP costs 10x more, can't save your life, and will destroy what little coolness or social life you've had. Not a recipe for success.
Why would you wear glasses inside glasses???I find it odd that he didn’t create his persona with glasses. There’s the option to add glasses when setting up your persona and he chose not to. Makes it seem that he KNOWS how truly silly and strange personas are!
Religious experience? Come on James, you can do better.
And about the whole product, there's one thing I retain from all the reviews and interviews:
- Lots of good UI ideas (some weird and some really bad as well)
- Incredible hardware
- Having the behemot power of Apple behind this product is the guarantee that this will not be yet another moonshot at the concept
- iPadOS as the foundation gives it a very strong head start.
But my extended time with the Vive at home and other VR headsets at work allows me to make one very concerning conclusion:
This technology IS ISOLATING, whatever the marketing department wants you to believe in.
Since the new rise of VR with Oculus, this and the other concerns I have still not changed at ALL.
- Watching a movie on a giant screen? Great ! But... what's the point of going alone to the movie theatre?
- Working on productivity stuff? Aren't you better served with a couple 4k screens, a mouse and keyboard and a powerful and versatile OS like MacOS or Windows? Yes you can do that with the AVP, but with a brick on your face and a sore neck. Why?
- You're stuck to your chair/couch. Moving with a VR headset is still not a solved problem. Mixed /AR experiences can offset the issue to a point, but as soon as it become too immersive, many people will be prone to sickness (Nilay told that even watching Avatar in 3D made him uncomfortable)
- Interacting with others: as long as you can't share your "world", your own cyberspace, with others, you'll feel forever alone.
-Sharing: the need for customizing the device to your eyesight makes it very difficult to share. Go go go individualism ! Same approach as the iPad: why encourage your customers to share a device when you can upsell a device to each of them ? That's why iOS and iPadOS will never see multi-user implemented, and I suppose that if Apple could, it would do the same to MacOS.
- Getting interrupted during your experience will always be awkward for the person interrupting because they can't see what they are interrupting.
Are we really after this lite dystopia experience? Is this really something solving any issues, or at least more issues than it creates? The first images of that AVP dad filming the birthday was already quite telling, and even if it isn't pushed as strong as before, the people who proposed this kind of ideas are still trying to get you on their coolaid.
I think the main issue is that people working at Apple aren't family guys, they all live alone or in environment far diffrent than what "normal" people live everyday, with kids, significant others, relatives always around the corner, talking to you, showing you a photo,...
Believe me, I tried to use the Vive for somehting else than short experiences, and it is NOT compatible with a family life.
It's not by chance than the Meta Quest is focusing on games and fitness, two activities many people like when they're in their own world.
My bet is Apple will probably have to pivot around and focus on these experiences instead of productivity, for short bursts of adrenaline. Like they did with the Apple watch.
Of course, this is just my opinion, but while I appreciate the technological prowess, I'm really not sold on the concept.
I find it charming that he left the pictures/paintings on the ground leaned against the wallTim has:
Takeaways: Tim's office looks pretty boring (maybe it's just the lighting but it looks super beige). He likes silver devices.
- Apple Watch Ultra (with starlight or possibly olive alpine loop)
- iPhone 15 pro max (natural titanium)
- AirPods Pro 2nd gen (they look like the USB-C model)
- Yellow HomePod mini
- Nike killshot 2 leather sneakers
- MacBook Pro 14" (silver, M1/M2/M3 Pro/Max)
- Studio display (you can tell by the hole in the stand)
- Silver iPad with Apple Pencil magnetically attached and Magic Keyboard case. If you look at it in the perspective of the space it looks like the 12.9" Pro. And let's be real, Apple would never show a prototype/preproduction iPad publicly. And if they did, Tim Cook wouldn't be using it (he'd be using something that actually works without glitches).
- And of course, Vision Pro (with solo knit band).
Also, even though he's said he uses an iPad for most of his work, he still has a fairly recent Mac (kind of admitting the iPad can't fully replace it)
He seems almost human
He looks like that kid who never remove his goggles indoors and just wants to wear his new skiing gear even though his parents aren’t taking him to the slopes for another 3 months.
Tim Cook has been finally pictured wearing the Apple Vision Pro headset. The photographs accompany a Vanity Fair article about the device, which leads on the digital cover of the magazine.
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This is the first time the Apple CEO has been seen wearing the device since its unveiling at WWDC 2023 in June. Given that Cook is usually keen to model and be seen using Apple devices, particularly during keynote events and speeches, it's interesting that the company appears to have been a little more reticent to take the same approach with Vision Pro, until now.
The article includes interview quotes from Tim Cook, Greg Joswiak, James Cameron, Jon Favreau, and others on their experience with Apple Vision Pro, how the headset was developed, and more. Here are some select quotes from the piece, which was written by Nick Bilton:
You can read the full review on the Vanity Fair website.
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Apple Vision Pro starts at $3,499 and launches in the U.S. this Friday, February 2. Apple has said the Vision Pro will launch in additional countries later this year.
Article Link: Here's What Tim Cook Looks Like Wearing Apple Vision Pro
The thing is, the AVP doesn’t solve any of the technical issues that prevents us from building true-AR smart glasses and contact lenses. Apple also didn’t create this vision of the future, it’s been there since the 90s. So what’s the point? This is an incrementally better version of the Quest, but also worse for gaming and exercising, and very expensive. To repeat, it doesn’t solve any of the fundamental issues that existing VR headsets exhibit.
I think so too. It's a niche device. At worst it'll probably end up like the AppleTVThe AVP will probably end up in the same product class as the iPad - a premium media consumption device. Laptops and desktops will still remain as premium creation devices.
I really don‘t see an actual problem that this device is supposed to solve. Maybe a problem needs to be created in order for it to solve it.I agree with you, if you want a product that is perfect and has all the problems solved, the AVP is not for you.
But I disagree that it's not solving problems that others are not even attempting to. And that is gesture control without sensors on your fingers or some other physical control. It is going way past what others are even thinking of doing with eye control. These ARE fundamental problems that will have to be solved even for devices that solve the rest (which I assume are weight and transparency? oh, and are cool (rolls eyes) too).
It's also setting the bar for what should be acceptable graphics performance. 1080 p is not as good as 4k. Latency is another problem it tackles. Does it have these solved enough to eliminate the common complaint of users feeling ill with other devices? We don't know yet, but we know its attempting to.
I think it's silly to say the AVP is not advancing the science of what these things should be. But I do agree, for some, that won't be enough. Choice is a great thing.
Are you ISOLATED when sitting at your computer and listening to music on your AirPods/headphones? Of course not. Most people's situational (dare I say "spatial") awareness is not as fragile as you seem to think it is.This technology IS ISOLATING, whatever the marketing department wants you to believe in.