How AirPlay 2 and the Apple TV App Work on a Samsung TV

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  1. rkaufmann87 macrumors 68000

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    Me too! My Apple TV goes along with me when we go away on vacation. Just connect it, get an Internet connection and I'm in business. It has been to Hawaii and Lake Tahoe vacations many times!
     
  2. alexandr macrumors 6502a

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    #52
    that was a terrible comparison, given that an iphone is a standalone product, while the atv needs a tv to function. but i get your point. of course i don't, only really smart kids do. be a little more open minded - not everyone approaches their setup the same way.

    oh, but thanks for sharing your bravia experience, i love sony tv's and my next one was/is going to be one, so good to know.
     
  3. fatespawn macrumors regular

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    I imagine many people have an ARC setup or at least an optical out from the TV to a receiver to handle the sound.

    I have a QN75Q65FN and it updated fine and pushes the audio to my receiver via an ARC connection.

    No apple TV required.

    However, the limitations of this setup won't make me get rid of my Apple TV. I have quite a substantial movie collection in my iTunes library along with home videos that aren't accessible through the Samsung. So, I'll stick with ATV for now.
     
  4. alexandr macrumors 6502a

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    all these comments are gonna make me get one)))
     
  5. omzz15 macrumors newbie

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    How is yours working? I have my TV on that update and i can not connect.
     
  6. prasand, May 16, 2019
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    prasand macrumors 6502

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    #56
    My closed-mindedness was no more than yours for thinking that people who buy an Apple TV because they want the TV app.

    Of course some people would only use the TV app, but I highly doubt they are someone who would’ve bought an Apple TV in the first place. — Those who buy an Apple TV are willing to pay the money for the tvOS experience (or Apple brand), they don’t typically buy it for one app, and therefore there is no way that Apple would be phasing out a device due to the release of only one app.

    Sony’s android experience is close to stock Android TV, which I have not found pleasant at all. The issues with Android apps are prevalent whether it’s Sony’s TV or the Firestick. No matter how well it’s coded Java will always be clunky, so long as Java is being used to render the interface. If Java is handing it off to another handler then it’s not as clunky / sluggish (but still is). The poor app experience is why Android moved to Kotlin instead of Java. Java was a poor UX choice to begin with, and I say this as a Java developer (but I understand the desire to use a universal language, that developers around the world could use).

    LG’s TV experience is much better than Android TV, but app availability would cause me to choose an Android TV before an LG (if I weren’t using an external device). I’d rather have the apps I want to use, and deal with the poor Android TV experience. Android TV apps tend to force-quit pretty often, but I don’t think it’s inherently a problem with Android TV per se, it’s more of a lack of developer skill problem (be it because they aren’t programmatically handling memory well, or because of bugs in their code). Those same apps never crash on tvOS, the codebase is obviously different but the fluidity of the interface and stability of apps in my opinion puts tvOS leagues beyond Android TV. It’s not something that you can just throw a faster processor or more RAM at to fix, what i’m speaking of exists even with the fastest processors and highest refresh rates. I can still perceive the clunkiness. Perhaps it’s only because I am a developer that I even notice those nuances.

    Regardless, most of the people with Apple TVs will not be giving up their Apple TV due to the release of a single app, and many people will continue to buy Apple TVs, even if they don’t see the clunkiness that I do. The iOS, tvOS, etc experience is just more pleasant. Even Android appreciators like MKBHD can see the difference between IG on iOS versus java Android.
     
  7. dilbert99 macrumors 68020

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    You can still be an Apple fan only because while watching Apple streaming content you won’t see android tech reviewed or any other tech except for Apple tech being reviewed.
    And you won’t be able to watch shows that have Apple trademarks in the name so no shows called “iOS today” from Leo Laporte such is Apple’s Dictatorship
     
  8. TracesOfArsenic macrumors regular

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    It's nice having AirPlay on my TV, not that I ever missed it up to this point but it's still inferior to Chromecast in many ways because it's just mirroring.
     
  9. racerhomie macrumors 6502

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    Dont be a fool. The  TV is as excellent as ever. This TV service , is just to make  Services money.
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    So edgy dude. Go buy something else if you feel so trapped.
     
  10. BarrettF77 macrumors regular

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    Can anyone test Airplaying Audio from the tv to HomePods? Is this doable?
     
  11. Madmic23 macrumors 6502a

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    Well I hope Apple is giving Samsung a 30% cut on everything sold on a Samsung TV. :)
     
  12. firewire9000 macrumors 6502

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    I thought that with AirPlay 2 the TV could send the sound from the built in YouTube app to my HomePod but not. It’s only a receiver. Major disappointment.
     
  13. ipedro macrumors 601

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    That’s like saying in the 2000’s “why get a Mac if iTunes is now on Windows?”.

    tvOS is more than just the Apple TV app. With Apple Arcade coming, there’ll be even more of a reason to get a new Apple TV. Contrary to what you’re suggesting, Apple is not only not discontinuing the Apple TV, they’re likely going to release a new one this Fall, capable of running the games that’ll come with Apple Arcade.

    The reason Apple TV is being released widely on third parties is because Apple is entering the subscription tv streaming business. If they want to have a chance of competing with Netflix and Disney+, they’ll have to be available on all the same platforms, the same way Apple Music is on Android to compete with Spotify.
     
  14. benshive, May 16, 2019
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    Checked again and it definitely isn’t there and I’m sure I’m on 1251. Samsung support has definitely not been helpful.
     

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  15. rkaufmann87 macrumors 68000

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    Okay, please give me the full model number, for example mine is QN65Q6FNAFXZA. You can find this information on the TV itself or. you should have written it in your manual.

    If you are on 1251 (I believe you) and your TV is supposed to support the new Apple TV app then on the TV, navigate to your apps where you add new apps and you should be able to find it.
     
  16. VARTV macrumors member

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    Using Airplay 2 on our new Q90. Works great! We forgot to record an episode of NCIS. PQ is great...
     
  17. err404 macrumors 68020

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    I have the same TV, so I understand your frustration. While the older models probably could support the new features, I highly doubt that they would bother developing and testing/supporting such a large upgrade on a device that is no longer produced. There is essentially no value in it for Samsung.
     
  18. Seoras macrumors 6502

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    I wish they include Facetime support too for TV's AND the current Apple TV.
     
  19. Ellis.adam macrumors newbie

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    why does the new iOS not allow me to turn my apple tv on and off with siri or allow me to add my apple tv to home kit scenes? whenever my apple tv turns on it turns on my sony tv and when I turn off my apple tv it turns off my sony tv. I don't see why apple is adding this functionality to third party devices and not their own set top box.
     
  20. BayouTiger macrumors 6502

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    I bought two new Samsungs last week. The big QLED Q80 75” had both AppleTv and Airplay out of the box, but the 43” 7100 did not. Quick firmware update and it was there.

    I guess its nice for playing Apple purchases or rentals, but i haven't found a way to play my iTunes content via home sharing, so i guess my AppleTv will stick around, though all the streaming services are much better on the TV than the AppleTv4K.

    Still waiting for Plex client for the Q80, though it is available for the 7100. Not sure why the difference sine the OS is the same.
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    I retired a very nice 65” Sony Bravia because of the horrid AndroidTv Os. Constant reboots and app crashes. Would have been a great TV with a decent OS
     
  21. terrywfoster macrumors 6502

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    Same for me. Just got off Samsung Support Chat. This is what they told me:

    9:16 PM

    Current AirPlay is only available for 2019 model TVs. It is still being worked on for 2018 model TVs.

    Once the update is available for 2018 models, AirPlay option will be available on your TVs Settings.
     
  22. Peepo macrumors 6502a

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    Maybe one day there will be one TV that can do both things... TV App and Airplay2.
     
  23. macduke macrumors G4

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    I'm still going to use the Apple TV hardware because I don't trust these TV manufacturers further than I can throw them. A lot of the included OS out there are spyware and adware. I prefer to never boot into those and never give them access to my network. Everything I need is on the Apple TV hardware. I prefer a dumb display. I wish there was a way to get a TV with nice image quality that just doesn't include the extra garbage.
     
  24. richpjr macrumors 68040

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    The entire reason the app exists is a way to get people to buy or rent content! You'll notice that the only things that show up in your library are things purchased, not anything acquired from other sources.
     
  25. sammarshall macrumors newbie

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    That’s too bad. The ATV can push audio to other AP2 devices. It would be amazing if I could push anything playing on a AP2 compatible TV to other AP2 devices.
     

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