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How AirPlay 2 and the Apple TV App Work on a Samsung TV

racerhomie said:
Dont be a fool. The  TV is as excellent as ever. This TV service , is just to make  Services money.
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So edgy dude. Go buy something else if you feel so trapped.
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Strange response to Apple abusing its market power...
 
an actual model list would be most helpful. I have a Samsung TV but can't remember what year I bought it. Also surely any Samsung Smart TV with the latest version of the Hub can support Apple TV, and could easily roll out an app for it?
 
This is an interesting development for sure.

It didn't say in the article (or video for that matter) whether these Samsung TVs support Apple's Homekit (I assume not as it said other manufactures would be realising models that support Homekit later in the year). I need to upgrade my current AppleTV to the version ATV3 or the 4K model, as I need one to act as a Homekit hub for my smart devices. - If these Samsung TVs support this feature out of the box, I may be inclined to opt for one of those instead - as I'm in the market for a new TV.

The other thing not mentioned is how the remote works. - Didn't Apple make a big deal about the newly designed Apple remote, that improves the user experience when accessing TV content, and the built in Siri voice commands? - How is this all supposed to work on a Samsung TV remote without a 'ask Siri' button? Surely it's dumbing down the whole Apple user experience?
 
Just spoke to Samsung Support in UK the availability is not just by model number its also by country as they use different manufactures in different countries
in the uk the only model that seems to have it is the RU7400 series. There may be others.
 
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obiwan said:
This is an interesting development for sure.

It didn't say in the article (or video for that matter) whether these Samsung TVs support Apple's Homekit (I assume not as it said other manufactures would be realising models that support Homekit later in the year). I need to upgrade my current AppleTV to the version ATV3 or the 4K model, as I need one to act as a Homekit hub for my smart devices. - If these Samsung TVs support this feature out of the box, I may be inclined to opt for one of those instead - as I'm in the market for a new TV.

The other thing not mentioned is how the remote works. - Didn't Apple make a big deal about the newly designed Apple remote, that improves the user experience when accessing TV content, and the built in Siri voice commands? - How is this all supposed to work on a Samsung TV remote without a 'ask Siri' button? Surely it's dumbing down the whole Apple user experience?
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EDIT: Ok I must have missed this bit:

MacRumors said:
While Vizio, Sony, and LG all plan to support HomeKit, which will let you use Siri voice commands and the Home app to control your TV, Samsung is not implementing this feature and Samsung TVs won't be an available option in the Home app.
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Unity451 said:
I wish there was a way to filter out all of the stuff that I can't watch without paying. It's annoying to still see so much "pay-required" content integrated in with stuff that is either free to watch, owned, or a part of an existing subscription. Is there "cord cutter" type term for people who heave their streaming device through a window?
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this. is. gold.
we can only dream that someone will do this eventually
 
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Unity451 said:
I wish there was a way to filter out all of the stuff that I can't watch without paying. It's annoying to still see so much "pay-required" content integrated in with stuff that is either free to watch, owned, or a part of an existing subscription. Is there "cord cutter" type term for people who heave their streaming device through a window?
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I agree. Mixing paid third party content or channels in with the regular app makes for a bad experience. I basically want a clean tv app for apple tv. No channels. No "recommendations".
 
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ipedro said:
That’s like saying in the 2000’s “why get a Mac if iTunes is now on Windows?”.

tvOS is more than just the Apple TV app. With Apple Arcade coming, there’ll be even more of a reason to get a new Apple TV. Contrary to what you’re suggesting, Apple is not only not discontinuing the Apple TV, they’re likely going to release a new one this Fall, capable of running the games that’ll come with Apple Arcade.

The reason Apple TV is being released widely on third parties is because Apple is entering the subscription tv streaming business. If they want to have a chance of competing with Netflix and Disney+, they’ll have to be available on all the same platforms, the same way Apple Music is on Android to compete with Spotify.
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ok, maybe it's my personal approach speaking. i never saw any reason to get the atv, and now there is even less.
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racerhomie said:
Dont be a fool. The  TV is as excellent as ever. This TV service , is just to make  Services money.
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ok, i'll try to not be a fool, daddy.
 
poe diddley said:
this. is. gold.
we can only dream that someone will do this eventually
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I'm not holding my breath - the entire point of it is to get us to buy stuff from Apple. Same as iTunes for Windows PCs - a way to suck more money out of people.
 
ksec said:
One Basic Question, With the Apple TV Apps and Support of AirPlay 2, what are the missing features or functions as compared to Apple TV 4K, apart from Gaming?
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Doesn’t look like anyone answered amidst the debate...

Perhaps less important with a Samsung TV given the breadth of their available alternatives... but the Apps themselves plus Siri control. I think it’s as straight forward as that.
 
BuffaloTF said:
Doesn’t look like anyone answered amidst the debate...

Perhaps less important with a Samsung TV given the breadth of their available alternatives... but the Apps themselves plus Siri control. I think it’s as straight forward as that.
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For most people, I'd imagine the apps are the mark or break thing for it. For my own uses, as long as YoutubeTV, Netflix, Amazon Prime and HBO were available I'd be fine. This announcement is very timely as I'm debating about picking up a new TV and moving the current one up into a loft.
 
alexandr said:
never got myself an apple tv as i never saw enough reasons to, and i'm kind of glad they are phasing it out.
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LMAO. No one is phasing it out. The TV App is now software as a service, and will be accessible by a lot more people.

The Apple TV has been the centerpiece of Apple customer's entertainment centers for years. It isn't getting "phased out" any more than iPhone is getting "phased out" by making Apple Music available on Android.
 
Is the update limited to certain regions? I'm in China (where the Apple TV box Is not available for purchase) and I'm not seeing the update on my 2018 Samsung 8 series TV.
 
Works great on a samsung tv 2018 7-th serries. Tested with mirroring iphone and macbook. BUT one thing annoys me - the tv uses wrong color profile, so everthing is a bit oversaturated. I used to fix that when connecting with HDMI by selecting Display P3 on the color profiles tab in display settings in macos. By default is something like hd.709 (not sure). The problem is when i connect over airplay I can't change the color profile. It's the same when connecting iphone...
 
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I’ve got a 2018 Samsung QN55Q65F (55” Costco Special 65-series) tv which, until last night, was supplied content via a Roku Ultra. After the most recent update and my testing last night, I’ve disconnected my Roku (and relocated it to the guest bedroom TV) and am content to just use the Samsung + Apple TV functionality. This thing works perfectly. And, for the single streaming app that doesn’t work, I can perfectly cast it from my iPhone XS to the TV. Very happy to eliminate another box and remote control from my setup. This is one of the few times that a vendor has pushed a patch that improves already-delivered product, vs. forcing you to buy a new product. Thanks to both Samsung and Apple for this.
 
MacRumors said:



When iOS 12.3 and tvOS 12.3 launched earlier this week with the updated TV app that Apple first teased at its March event, Samsung also rolled out support for both AirPlay 2 and the new TV app, making it the first third-party company to launch these features.

We have a Samsung TV set (the 2018 Q6F) that's compatible with the new Apple offerings, so we thought we'd check them out to give MacRumors readers a look at how Apple features work on third-party television sets.


After installing a firmware update, Apple-compatible Samsung TV sets will have an Apple TV app, which is going to be unique to Samsung TVs for the foreseeable future. Other TV sets are gaining Apple features like AirPlay 2, but it's only Samsung that has a TV app option for now.

The TV app on a Samsung TV looks almost identical to the TV app on the Apple TV, offering up a "Watch Now" feature that keeps track of the movies and the TV shows you're watching, plus content recommendations ranging from suggestions based on what you've watched to new content to trending content.

The "Channels" feature that's new to the TV app is available on Samsung TVs, allowing users to subscribe to services like HBO, Starz, Showtime, and more right within the TV app. Channels content can be watched right within the TV app without the need to open up another app.

There are dedicated sections for "Watch Now," Movies, TV Shows, Kids, Library, Search, and Settings, and the app offers up access to all of the iTunes content that you've previously purchased. You can also purchase or rent new movies within the app.

Apple content on the Samsung TV works with other Samsung Smart TV services, including the Universal Guide, Bixby, and Search.

Compatible Samsung TVs also now work with AirPlay 2, which means you can AirPlay content to them much like you would to a TV connected to an Apple TV set-top box.

You can AirPlay music to the TV, AirPlay content from apps like YouTube, or AirPlay TV shows and movies. AirPlay functionality works from within apps or through the Control Center where AirPlay options are located.

In our testing, the Apple TV and AirPlay 2 features on the Samsung TV set worked flawlessly, and were much like using an Apple TV set-top box. The experience was similar enough that it's easy to forget you're interacting with a Samsung Smart TV rather than an Apple TV box.

There are quite a few Samsung TVs from 2018 and 2019 that are compatible with AirPlay 2 and the TV app, with a list available below:

[*]Samsung FHD/HD 4, 5 Series (2018)
[*]Samsung QLED 4K Q6, Q7, Q8, Q9 Series (2018 & 2019)
[*]Samsung QLED 8K Q9 Series (2019)
[*]Samsung The Frame Series (2018 & 2019)
[*]Samsung The Serif Series (2019)
[*]Samsung UHD 6, 7, 8 Series (2018 & 2019)

These TV sets can access AirPlay 2 and the TV app right now, with a firmware update required on 2018 TV models.

Other TV manufacturers like Vizio, Sony, and LG are also implementing similar features and will begin supporting AirPlay 2 and HomeKit later this year. Vizio is already beta testing AirPlay 2 and HomeKit features, as demonstrated in the video below.


While Vizio, Sony, and LG all plan to support HomeKit, which will let you use Siri voice commands and the Home app to control your TV, Samsung is not implementing this feature and Samsung TVs won't be an available option in the Home app.

Samsung has instead added the TV app, which Vizio, Sony, and LG have not announced support for.

Article Link: How AirPlay 2 and the Apple TV App Work on a Samsung TV
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[doublepost=1558107847][/doublepost]Anyone tried hooking homepods up to a Samsung TV? Is that even possible with airplay. I have 2 homepods connected to my apple tv and a Panasonic TV and would love them to work with a native app on a new TV...
 
prasand said:
My closed-mindedness was no more than yours for thinking that people who buy an Apple TV because they want the TV app.

Of course some people would only use the TV app, but I highly doubt they are someone who would’ve bought an Apple TV in the first place. — Those who buy an Apple TV are willing to pay the money for the tvOS experience (or Apple brand), they don’t typically buy it for one app, and therefore there is no way that Apple would be phasing out a device due to the release of only one app.

Sony’s android experience is close to stock Android TV, which I have not found pleasant at all. The issues with Android apps are prevalent whether it’s Sony’s TV or the Firestick. No matter how well it’s coded Java will always be clunky, so long as Java is being used to render the interface. If Java is handing it off to another handler then it’s not as clunky / sluggish (but still is). The poor app experience is why Android moved to Kotlin instead of Java. Java was a poor UX choice to begin with, and I say this as a Java developer (but I understand the desire to use a universal language, that developers around the world could use).

LG’s TV experience is much better than Android TV, but app availability would cause me to choose an Android TV before an LG (if I weren’t using an external device). I’d rather have the apps I want to use, and deal with the poor Android TV experience. Android TV apps tend to force-quit pretty often, but I don’t think it’s inherently a problem with Android TV per se, it’s more of a lack of developer skill problem (be it because they aren’t programmatically handling memory well, or because of bugs in their code). Those same apps never crash on tvOS, the codebase is obviously different but the fluidity of the interface and stability of apps in my opinion puts tvOS leagues beyond Android TV. It’s not something that you can just throw a faster processor or more RAM at to fix, what i’m speaking of exists even with the fastest processors and highest refresh rates. I can still perceive the clunkiness. Perhaps it’s only because I am a developer that I even notice those nuances.

Regardless, most of the people with Apple TVs will not be giving up their Apple TV due to the release of a single app, and many people will continue to buy Apple TVs, even if they don’t see the clunkiness that I do. The iOS, tvOS, etc experience is just more pleasant. Even Android appreciators like MKBHD can see the difference between IG on iOS versus java Android.
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well then for your/their sake i'm glad they are NOT phasing out the atv)
 
My 8-series updated some time this week on either Wednesday or Thursday morning. The TV app works fine, but the Airplay function is strange. When I airplay to the TV it will not push the audio to my surround sound system. I think it has something to do with my setup but I don't know a way around it. Maybe I need an optical audio cable from my TV back to the AVR? (everything like the cable box and Apple TV plugs into the AVR and then an HDMI goes from the AVR to the TV).

FYI...Airplay to the Apple TV works fine.
 
BuffaloTF said:
Doesn’t look like anyone answered amidst the debate...

Perhaps less important with a Samsung TV given the breadth of their available alternatives... but the Apps themselves plus Siri control. I think it’s as straight forward as that.
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The Apps themselves as in Youtube? Bloomberg those kind of things? And I will have to access them via Samsung 's / Android Apps ( Assuming they are available ? )

I can live without Siri, I haven't find anything useful from it yet. ( On Apple TV )
 
PastaPrimav said:
LMAO. No one is phasing it out. The TV App is now software as a service, and will be accessible by a lot more people.

The Apple TV has been the centerpiece of Apple customer's entertainment centers for years. It isn't getting "phased out" any more than iPhone is getting "phased out" by making Apple Music available on Android.
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god, what's with comparing the atv to the iphone?! an iphone is a standalone device, while the atv is useless without a tv.
 
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