Just thought of it, but maybe he's talking about his entire AT&T bill and has U-verse?
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How many people will move to Verizon in January
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Just thought of it, but maybe he's talking about his entire AT&T bill and has U-verse?
No I wont.
1. I'll be 5 months into a contract and refuse to pay $300 for an ETF.
2. I specifically left VZW a few years ago because they cripple their phones. I have no doubt they will do the same to the iPhone
3. I have no complains with AT&T. VZW is not any cheaper.
1. I'll be 5 months into a contract and refuse to pay $300 for an ETF.
2. I specifically left VZW a few years ago because they cripple their phones. I have no doubt they will do the same to the iPhone
3. I have no complains with AT&T. VZW is not any cheaper.
I just switched to AT&T from Verizon to get the iPhone 4. I'm hoping that by January (if there even really is a Verizon iPhone), I'll be satisfied with AT&T. I was satisfied with Verizon but it's still to early to give my opinion on AT&T's service.
Also, crappy/lacking poll options.
Also, crappy/lacking poll options.
Any hopes that anybody had of the iPhone going to Verizon were finally killed when they just recently released an ad poking fun at the iPhone 4's reception "issues". I personally didn't think it would ever happen anyway.
I was forced to vote for "Love AT&T" even though that hardly explains the situation.
Let's put it this way: I greatly dislike AT&T but I hate Verizon.
Let's put it this way: I greatly dislike AT&T but I hate Verizon.
Actually, you need to understand CDMA vs GSM.
LTE is not backwards compatible with anything.
CDMA is no more a dead technology than the current GSM technologies. Verizon will phase out CDMA just like AT&T will phase out W-CDMA. Both will move to LTE and have a hybrid LTE network.
That's because they realize that Verizon has the technology to change that anytime they want. SVDO.
So if an iPhone were released, they just need to use an SVDO chipset...done.
No, it does more than you think...and to update it in the system is just typing the ESN in on a website.
Wrong.
LTE is backwards compatible with Att's and Tmobile USA and the rest of the GSM world.
http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/lte.htm
Verizon must start testing LTE much sooner since they don't have a GSM network to fall back on.
The reason Verizon voice network (CDMA) is so built up is because they essentially had a 5 year jump start over AT&T original, Cingular. Both of those companies had to start from scratch with their GSM network in the early 2000 and had to use a hybrid TDMA network to patch things up.
Now the tables have turned on verizon. That's why they need to ramp up LTE testing first.
I don't think anything will be happening in January except for a Thread here on MR discussing how many people will be moving to Verizon in Jan of 2012.
Since that will most likely be the next rumored date for the iPhone when it doesn't appear on Verizon in Jan of 2011
Since that will most likely be the next rumored date for the iPhone when it doesn't appear on Verizon in Jan of 2011
That's true but from what i read about the alleged Cdma prototype is that it will be somewhat gimped. Not sure why but the rumors claim that the CDMA iPhone is pretty barebones and would be most likely be like the Original iPhone and not have support for LTE the same way the Original didn't support UMTS.
But those are just rumors. No crystal ball here
So what does that backward compatibility bring to the table? A simpler rollout for AT&T? Any benefit to the customer?
Nothing has turned on Verizon. This is the normal wave of upgrades. Verizon has always been on the front side of that wave. They got 3G first...then AT&T. They'll get LTE first...then AT&T. It'll be that way with the next upgrade. AT&T had the most recent network upgrades...it's Verizon's turn. It's just the normal spacing out of capital expenditures.
Edit: Oh...and they don't need a GSM network to fall back on. They have a CDMA network to fall back on.
That's true but from what i read about the alleged Cdma prototype is that it will be somewhat gimped. Not sure why but the rumors claim that the CDMA iPhone is pretty barebones and would be most likely be like the Original iPhone and not have support for LTE the same way the Original didn't support UMTS.
But those are just rumors. No crystal ball here
Not sure about being "gimped" or barebones...I haven't read that, but I agree that if a Verizon iPhone is released sometime in Q4 or Q1 it will most likely not be LTE. Apple may want to wait for LTE chipsets to mature.
That article he quoted says it is...which goes against what I've read. Not sure what exactly they are implying by "backward compatible". It's not like a "purely" LTE chipset would work on GSM standards. They will most likely use a hybrid LTE/W-CDMA chipset.
I don't especially love AT&T, but I certainly hate Verizon. About to get an M-Cell and cancel my Verizon home service.. No more $80 every 20 days for basic phone service.
That wouldn't be a $500 bill for 4 iPhones though. It'd be a $500 bill for 4 iPhones + other services, which would make the purpose of posting it (i.e. bashing AT&T for being expensive) pointless.
Ok now I am so confused about LTE and backwards compatibility with GSM networks.
All cell phone companies will probably end up putting some type of hybrid chip to support the older network.
I always thought is was a much easier upgradepath to go from HSPA to LTE.
All cell phone companies will probably end up putting some type of hybrid chip to support the older network.
I always thought is was a much easier upgradepath to go from HSPA to LTE.
This is from an old article...but I'll post it anyway:
http://3g4g.blogspot.com/2008/06/wimax-and-lte-backwards-compatibility.html
Already did. Around here, difference in coverage is enourmous. Like having coverage vs. no coverage. AT&T only has 3G in major metro areas, the rest is EDGE only. And even in the metro area, even where they say its strong, it isn't. I always dropped called w my iPhone 3G. Could use it at home not at families homes. Verizon is 3G pretty much everywhere. Haven't dropped a call yet. Did require switching to an HTC Incredible. But that hasn't been bad either. Actually more powerful and flexible.
I live in the sticks, which means my options for phone companies are limited. I would probably get the same, if not worse, signal with Verizon. So, no, I won't bother switching.
LTE Backward Compatability
Ok, did some more research re: LTE's backward compatibility. It seems to mostly refer to the ability to hand-off to other networks. Originally the focus was on hand-offs to existing GSM standards. But apparently when Verizon started leaning toward adopting LTE, they worked to get CDMA included as well. I've also read that WiMax compatability may also be there.
So not backwards compatible in the way I think most people would think of it. But there it is.
Ok, did some more research re: LTE's backward compatibility. It seems to mostly refer to the ability to hand-off to other networks. Originally the focus was on hand-offs to existing GSM standards. But apparently when Verizon started leaning toward adopting LTE, they worked to get CDMA included as well. I've also read that WiMax compatability may also be there.
So not backwards compatible in the way I think most people would think of it. But there it is.