How Samsung's New Galaxy Note 9 Measures Up to Apple's Rumored 2018 iPhone Lineup

[groadyho]

As an S9+ owner I'll take a curved screen over a notch anyday.
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Now if THAT isn’t the pot calling the kettle black.
We all know iPhone X is faster than note 9. It’s ok. Here’s a tissue.

Actually side x side my S9+ and my sisters iPhone X there is no discernable difference in speed except in multitasking, where my S9+ crushed my sisters X.

 

[Larryprice]

Cue the "I like the hardware but the software is crap" mantra. I definitely agree with that.

A few years ago before I dove deep into the Apple family, I considered the Note. Glad I didnt get it.

Back when the Note 7 came out, some of the Android phones had a clear hardware advantage over the iPhones so I seriously looked into getting a Note 7.

They're not really comparable. Galaxy Note is more like a computer (true smartphone) while the iPhone X+ is more like a blown up iPod with calling capability (dumb phone). And, it's not really 6.5" but more like 6" when factoring in the missing chunk of content from notch.

The Android fanboys might sound better if they didn't post blatantly silly, vapid posts like this. Apple products aren't perfect, and there are areas where Android phones are better but posting completely wrong comments like this just makes you sound ridiculous.

They're not really comparable. Galaxy Note is more like a computer (true smartphone) while the iPhone X+ is more like a blown up iPod with calling capability (dumb phone). And, it's not really 6.5" but more like 6" when factoring in the missing chunk of content from notch.

The Android fanboys might sound better if they didn't post blatantly silly, vapid posts like this. Apple products aren't perfect, and there are areas where Android phones are better but posting completely wrong comments like this just makes you sound ridiculous.

 

[Abazigal]

Is this a first? Comparing an existent phone to a nonexistent one? Apple (and Samsung for that matter) should be more worried about the new upstarts like the Poco F1. Which although have inferior screens. Pretty much match the performance and features for about a quarter of the cost. Why buy a Ferrari to go to the shops when a Ford will do the same job but without the badge on the front. Spend remaining dosh on a nice holiday, kids. Yes. That's the real threat to the Big Two. Not each other But the true competition waiting in the wings. Actually. I should've said Big Three. Huawei are the biggest current value for money manufacturers. But even they will have to sit up and take notice if these Xiaomi guys are chucking out $300 phones (currently in India). Yes Autumn 2018 could prove an interesting time for both makers and buyers alike. And that is a good thing IMHO

People have been saying the same thing for years. Why spend so much money on an iPhone when you can get a better specced android phone for way less.

As it turns out, there is no lack of users willing to pay top dollar for an iPhone despite there being tons of cheaper alternatives.

These cheaper phones pose no threat to Apple at all.

 

[Larryprice]

Just tell people not to touch your phone.
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The notch is basically a bezel with wasted screen on the sides.

Anyone who says the notch is basically a bezel with wasted screen on the sides really has never used a X or spent any time with one. It's really not an issue, and certainly not the problem Android fanboys like to make it out to be. That space was generally wasted on an iPhone screen anyway, and the advantages of Face ID would make it worth it even if it was 5 times worse than Android fanboys make it out to be.

 

[Flight Plan]

...Don't get bitter, get better.

I like this. I'm going to plagiarize you. Hope that's okay. Don't really care if it's not.

Going from my iPhone 7 Plus to the V30+ was like night and day. Of course I have the Intel model and the Qualcomm one had bands removed which may have contributed to the speaker issue.

For most it might be nonsense but for $1000? I certainly expected that my friend with the X wouldn't need to borrow my V30+ to make a call in the rural area of Texas we both visit.

So what's the diff between your V30 (I don't know what that is) and his X? Different carriers? This is probably easily explained and I doubt that it's the fault of his X or due to the magic of your V30.

I’m getting the new iPhone X plus, and I don’t care what anyeone else is getting. Pretty novel idea eh? Not caring about what other people’s choices are.

I've been seeing some of the fanboism and fangirlism in the 10 pages of this thread and I can only conclude that your idea is probably a pretty good plan.

As for me, I'd love the curved screen. And could go for that without caring what other people think. But for app, camera, face recog, and other technical reasons, Apple is where I'll stay when the X2+ comes out, and I'll go for that without caring what other people think. See how that works? And I'll also get a notch. Meh, it is what it is. I can rant on it or I can do it and just move on with appreciation for all the other stuff it will come with.

And, maybe most importantly: I won't get any un-uninstallable apps from my carrier. That's kind of a big deal, and was one of several reasons I went from Samsung to a Droid, and from a Droid to an iPhone. So there's that too.

 

[Abazigal]

Epic games are bypassing the 30% cut on the play store and letting you download an apk from their site.. for the millions of kids who love fortnite.. is this a.valid reason.. showbox, the movie app isn't on the play store. Download the apk, Install, hey presto.. movies on demand.. but then I suppose you become used to Apple telling you what you can watch/use/play instead of making you own mind up....

Fortnite was available on iOS as a free download through the App Store months before android users had to jump through hoops to access it. That the developers had to pay a 30% cut to Apple means nothing to me as a user.

Not to mention that attempting to bypass the play store resulted in problems such as this.

https://www.androidcentral.com/epic...ler-allowed-hackers-download-install-silently

So when there are people bragging about how the Note 9 is a full computer, I don’t really see that as something to be proud of. Especially if the “full PC experience” means being free to download random stuff from the internet and end up being saddled with the equivalent of malware on your device.

Apple’s approach is clearly the better one here for the vast majority of users.

 

[mib1800]

Don’t they call the note 9 bezeless?

Even then, it is still less than half the size of X side bezels

 

[Flight Plan]

Even then, it is still less than half the size of X side bezels

Are we getting to the point where the differences are so insignificant as to not really matter from a real-world perspective?

I'm getting a little frustrated that this is nothing more than a pedantic comparing of various degrees of "small", and applying it with way too much importance. Is this deceased equine beating the only thing that will make us happy?

 

[DNichter]

I think they only matter, whichever side of the fence your on if you're around 13 years old. They have no relevance to a mature adult.

I’ll have to defer to you on that one. According to this thread, you seem to know an awfully lot about the tech habits of 13 year olds.

 

[AppleFan910]

As an S9+ owner I'll take a curved screen over a notch anyday.
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Actually side x side my S9+ and my sisters iPhone X there is no discernable difference in speed except in multitasking, where my S9+ crushed my sisters X.

I’ll take the notch. A forehead and chin is dated. Full screen bezelless is where the future is. Again, your opinion. The speed test was a Note 9 vs iPhone X and the iPhone was faster. Certain apps open faster on some vs the other. My point was the android loyalists here lack any sense of reality. In Their own world is android is the best and anything else is a “dumb phone”. Or they diss the notch. Which is funny considering how many companies are copying it even just for the “look” of it.
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It would be fair to compare the 2018 iPhone X to the 2018 note 9 and s9. Next month .

https://bgr.com/2018/08/22/new-iphone-2018-release-date-apple-prepares-shipping-china/

I read this the other day! I can’t wait!
X plus for me!!

 

[sinsin07]

snip... it's about why iOS doesnt act like any other "computer" in the known universe.. it launches apps, that's it.

No. That is not it.
Based your above comment it can be easily surmised you have no idea what the a computer is, or what the definition of computer is.
There is one world recognized meaning for computer:

com·put·er
kəmˈpyo͞odər/
noun
noun: computer; plural noun: computers
an electronic device for storing and processing data, typically in binary form, according to instructions given to it in a variable program.
synonyms: personal computer, PC, laptop, netbook, ultraportable, desktop, terminal;
mainframe; Internet appliance;​

The above is what any human with access to the internet will find when they look up what the word "computer" means.
They will not find your android fantasy meaning of what you imagined a computer is.
Now does the iPhone fit into that meaning - Yes.

The ability to access, see and manipulate files from the hard drive is quite important.

Why because you say so?
This is a mantra repeated often and with diligence from the fandroid collective.
It's required so they can try and separate themselves from the mediocrity that is the Android landscape.
Please show supporting evidence of that claim, especially since Galaxy Note is niche device.
The 1.3 billion active IOS devices as of 2-1-2018 speaks louder than any fandroid fantasy about the importance "the ability to access, see and manipulate files from the hard drive is quite important."

The Galaxy Note 2, which was one of the best-selling Note series devices, sold more than 40 million units over its lifetime,” says Neil Shah from Counterpoint Research. “However, since Apple’s launch of plus size iPhones and also from other Android competitors, Samsung’s Note series have seen a bit of decline and now averages around 25 million units over a lifetime.

If iOS was a car, it would be on a freeway with no exits, it can go nice and fast, but only in a straight line, as Apple designed the road.

Freeways have exits, that's how you get to where you're going. Just like using an iphone.

Android is an off roader, it can go wherever the hell it wants.... and have fun getting there..

Good explanation for Android malware, thanks!

 

[spinedoc77]

Anyone who says the notch is basically a bezel with wasted screen on the sides really has never used a X or spent any time with one. It's really not an issue, and certainly not the problem Android fanboys like to make it out to be. That space was generally wasted on an iPhone screen anyway, and the advantages of Face ID would make it worth it even if it was 5 times worse than Android fanboys make it out to be.

Anyone who says that sounds idiotic IMO. A bezel is actually what has wasted screen space on the sides. A notch has useful screen space on the sides of the notch, in the case of the X it holds the status bar instead of allowing it to take up more room when placed under a full bezel.

 

[samplez]

EAT IT.

 

[Sevanw]

8 > 2, it’s not rocket science

You posted a video with an iPhone X on iOS 12 beta 2, but called a video with an iPhone X on iOS 12 beta 8 fud.

The 2017 iPhone X the latest beta is clearly faster than the note 9.

Wouldn’t that make the note 9 unworthy as you put it. Because it’s clearly not worth 1200 dollars if it buggy, like the video shows.

Here you go...lol, enjoy. A phone running year old software against a phone that's had almost a year of optimizing. Hahaaaa. What a joke.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Is this a first? Comparing an existent phone to a nonexistent one? Apple (and Samsung for that matter) should be more worried about the new upstarts like the Poco F1. Which although have inferior screens. Pretty much match the performance and features for about a quarter of the cost. Why buy a Ferrari to go to the shops when a Ford will do the same job but without the badge on the front. Spend remaining dosh on a nice holiday, kids. Yes. That's the real threat to the Big Two. Not each other But the true competition waiting in the wings. Actually. I should've said Big Three. Huawei are the biggest current value for money manufacturers. But even they will have to sit up and take notice if these Xiaomi guys are chucking out $300 phones (currently in India). Yes Autumn 2018 could prove an interesting time for both makers and buyers alike. And that is a good thing IMHO

Isn’t what poco are trying to do what one plus started off doing?

I don’t see one plus bothering Apple.

 

[tonybarnaby]

It seems a lot of people are set in their ways and have picked their own “side”. Obviously most people on this forum will choose an iPhone. There appear to be a decent amount of people who have one of each, like me.

I am happy to live in a world where I can have an iPhone and an android phone. The Apple Watch has caused me to very rarely put my sim in an android phone, but there are so many good phones to experience. Oneplus, LG, Moto, Samsung, google, and a bunch of other makers have a phone for everyone. If you have been using an iPhone for years you probably have no idea how solid android can be now days. No one could use a oneplus 6 and not be impressed I don’t think. This is a $5XX phone that has a lot of top tier specs for a little more than half the price of an X or base note 9. If your experience with androids is on a $300 phone from 4 years ago, things have changed in a big way.

I like my iPhone a lot, but you “get” more from android. The quality is better on an iPhone, though. It seems a lot of people take these discussions very personal for some reason. It’s not a crime to own an iPhone or android and think the other OS has some good things going for it.
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Isn’t what poco are trying to do what one plus started off doing?

I don’t see one plus bothering Apple.

No one can bother Apple as you say. The google pixel and pixel 2 were widely considered to be the best (top 2 for sure) android phones. Apple sold more iPhones on opening weekend than google did all year. Just because millions of people buy something doesn’t always mean it’s superior, or even good for that matter. Look at all the awful music now days that is selling boatloads of copies. No one will sell more or make a bigger profit than Apple for a long time, but that isn’t the be all end all.

 

[dLifeHD]

Note 9 has no notch at the top or prematurd at the bottom of the screen, it wins by default. X design is still the worst I've seen from Apple, never buying it.

 

[tonybarnaby]

Note 9 has no notch at the top or prematurd at the bottom of the screen, it wins by default. X design is still the worst I've seen from Apple, never buying it.

Pretty pitiful argument to be honest.

 

[Shanghaichica]

It seems a lot of people are set in their ways and have picked their own “side”. Obviously most people on this forum will choose an iPhone. There appear to be a decent amount of people who have one of each, like me.

I am happy to live in a world where I can have an iPhone and an android phone. The Apple Watch has caused me to very rarely put my sim in an android phone, but there are so many good phones to experience. Oneplus, LG, Moto, Samsung, google, and a bunch of other makers have a phone for everyone. If you have been using an iPhone for years you probably have no idea how solid android can be now days. No one could use a oneplus 6 and not be impressed I don’t think. This is a $5XX phone that has a lot of top tier specs for a little more than half the price of an X or base note 9. If your experience with androids is on a $300 phone from 4 years ago, things have changed in a big way.

I like my iPhone a lot, but you “get” more from android. The quality is better on an iPhone, though. It seems a lot of people take these discussions very personal for some reason. It’s not a crime to own an iPhone or android and think the other OS has some good things going for it.
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No one can bother Apple as you say. The google pixel and pixel 2 were widely considered to be the best (top 2 for sure) android phones. Apple sold more iPhones on opening weekend than google did all year. Just because millions of people buy something doesn’t always mean it’s superior, or even good for that matter. Look at all the awful music now days that is selling boatloads of copies. No one will sell more or make a bigger profit than Apple for a long time, but that isn’t the be all end all.

I didn’t say no one can bother Apple. I just said they need a different strategy because what poco are doing has been tried before.

Never used a one plus phone before. My question is do people find it impressive because it’s a good phone or because of how much it costs.

I’ve used lots of galaxy phones and find them impressive.

 

[tonybarnaby]

I didn’t say no one can bother Apple. I just said they need a different strategy because what poco are doing has been tried before.

If they stay at their current price point, they will sell phones. Oneplus keeps raising their prices, but the quality of their phones is also improving. Oneplus will have a very hard time if they want to compete with Samsung and the other top makers, though.

 

[Shanghaichica]

If they stay at their current price point, they will sell phones. Oneplus keeps raising their prices, but the quality of their phones is also improving. Oneplus will have a very hard time if they want to compete with Samsung and the other top makers, though.

If they stay at their current price point then they can’t improve the quality of their devices and they will be no different to Xiaomi.

 

[Arndroid]

See Apple, you can make a phone without a notch.

Lol it has a fingerprint reader on the back. That has always been horrible but much worse now.
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This piece is ridiculous, comparing a phone that is currently released to one that at this point is just unconfirmed rumour. You might as well compare it to a bar of soap. Seems to me it's been posted just to whip up some apple vs. android fanboy arguments.

Most of the note shortcomings already exist vs current model iPhones. So speculating on changes with educated guesses is not exactly extreme. For example the note processor is slower than the current generation Apple chip and it is all but confirmed the next generation chip will be in the iphones.

Given things like that, already having iOS 12, it is really not that hard to compare.
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The 8s+ w/ 4 GB of DRAM @ $799 could be the surprise Top Seller !

The Hardware Home Button is an Absolute Gem of a Product Attribute to MANY Power Users ! ... enables FAST removal of Backgrounded / Suspended apps, potentially Freeing-up LOTS of additional DRAM !

The iPhone X-style iPhones do NOT have that Product Attribute ... @ least NOT with the 1st-Gen iPhone X.

You don’t need to remove background and suspended apps in iOS to free up DRAM.

 

[FFR]

EAT IT.

Um yeah. Who cares about iOS 11?

Note 9 got spanked against the iPhone X
On iOS 12 beta 8. The note 9 was a stuttering mess.

You can watch the video here.

Why is the note 9 slower on WiFi compared to the year old iPhone X. Strange thought it was suppose to be a beast.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

It is absurd that one could think that a 6.4" screen divided in two gives two screens of 3.2". Four screens of 3.2" would fit in a 6.4" screen given similar aspect ratios.

When a Note 9 screen in portrait is split in two we end up with two screens of approximately 2.8" wide and 2.875" deep. And a screen diagonal of 4".
Each split screen has a surface area and pixel resolution greater than a single iPhone SE screen (1.96"X 3.49").

They seem perfectly usable to me.

Of course, the screen split is not fixed at 50/50. As an example, the top screen could be set to the same area as an iPhone 4 leaving a lower screen area slightly larger than an iPhone 8.

All depends on what each window is using to suit your needs. And the ratio between the two screens can be easily changed on the fly.
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Sure it is.
Pretty sure a 6 year old could do it.

Just keep digging that hole you are in. Most amusing.

 

[WarHeadz]

Gotta hand it to Samsung....they've figured out a way to make their phones look like plastic even when they're not made of plastic. Mind boggling.