How Samsung's New Galaxy Note 9 Measures Up to Apple's Rumored 2018 iPhone Lineup

[inscrewtable]

You have completely missed the point. Obviously every flat pane will show reflections if you angle it to deliberately show reflections which is what is always done in advertising shots in order to give the notion of glass, in fact a faux reflection used to be added to icons for the same effect.

However with the Galaxy range the display is *curved* on both sides, that means that if there is any light around it *must* show reflections on the edges and there's no way around that.

You do realize that Apple themselves have long pushed images of iPhones with glare right in their marketing images, right? For example...

...and...

And wow- still love that iPhone 5 design. I wish Apple would have bigger-screened that same design, kept the camera flush as it was there, and filled that space with more battery. IMO, that would have been an AMAZING iPhone: much more battery life, flush camera, utility of the headphone jack option (too), etc. WOW!

If you visit Apple's marketing page for iPhone X on their site right now, they've got edge glare on 2 (TWO) sides all over that long scroll pitch page.

 

[fokmik]

I love that the iphone plus with the same 6.4” or 6.5” is more compact than the note

 

[Shanghaichica]

I'm actually considering getting the Note 9 this weekend. I'm pretty tied into the Apple ecosystem (MacBook Pro, 2x HomePod), but the idea of looking outside of it is intriguing.

It’s a nice phone. Really good features but I have too many Apple devices and won’t be able to find any use for it, even as a secondary phone. I’ve tried for 3 successive years to have a Samsung phone as a secondary phone to my iPhone. I just couldn’t find a use for it because of all my Apple devices. The note 9 is a great phone but I’ll be getting the X plus.

 

[tann]

The 9 is in my opinion the greatest phone ever made. It's the no compromise phone.

I have a note 8 at the moment and would love a 9 but just can't justify the price when mine still feels as good as day 1.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Agreed.
I agree Samsung displays are awesome, Apple has and will catch up. But didn’t displaymate rate the IPhone X screen better than note 8 and S9?? If I’m not mistaken
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Lol. I believe it’s true. But if you show the note has a shortcoming or if the iPhone X does something better, the Samsung fans like to go tit for tat. Well my phone has SD.... more ram. Blah blah blah.

Display mate rated the iPhone X better than the note 8 but it’s since rated the S9 plus and note 9 as better than the X.

I’m sure when the new iPhones come out they will retake the top spot until the S10 comes out.

 

[BvizioN]

Plastic?! Take your tinted glasses off and look again!

Obviously Samsung have stopped using plastic on their Galaxy phones years ago, however the person you quoted would be forgiven to think they are plasticy, purely because they look plasticy. At least to me.

 

[limo79]

Now clever Apple marketing offer the low cost option 6.1" iPhone 2018 but they know that smartphone will be about 72mm or more so in fact large group of Apple consumers have no choice and the only option is to buy more expensive 5.8" OLED version with 70mm width. In my opinion Apple should standardize LCD and OLED iPhone so they both have 5.8" screen and 6.5" option is for the consumers who need larger devices like Note 9. Keep in mind that Samsung 8 and 9 have 68mm width.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

Catching up?

The iPhone probably faces more competition from their older models than the latest and greatest that Samsung has to offer.

Apple has practically lapped Samsung many times over. There is no contest. The smartphone wars are over. Apple won.

Thanks for the morning entertainment.

 

[DNichter]

iOS 12 gives the edge to the iPhone X.

What’s the point of the added ram if processing a video clears the memory for apps in the background.

Poor memory management compared to the year old iPhone.

Pretty impressive for a year old iPhone. I suppose the Android fans will now say that these tests don’t matter anymore, just like they did with benchmarks. The Note looks awfully choppy and glitchy going through it’s paces too. The X Plus, which is the proper comparison to the Note 9, is going to move the iPhone even further past it in terms of performance.

 

[rikscha]

Where exactly do they win out on LTE? Where is this theoretical incremental increase in speed available on a day to day basis. And even if it were, how would the end user even feel a difference browsing the web, sending messages or streaming music. This is non-sense

 

[Abazigal]

Thanks for the morning entertainment.

Deep down inside, you all know this to be true.

The Note 9 is clearly aimed at retaining their most loyal customers, but they are unlikely to entice new users to jump over to Samsung.

I don’t expect fantastic sales for the Note 9, nor do I expect it to represent any sort of meaningful competition to this year’s iPhone.

I will say it again. Apple’s biggest challenge this year (as with any year) is to convince its users that its latest iPhone is worth upgrading over the current iPhone that they already own, as well as consumers settling for an older model. Especially since iOS 12 and their battery replacement programme do help reinvigorate older iOS devices.

Samsung doesn’t factor into this equation at all.

 

[spinedoc77]

Sure doesn't seem that way in real-world conditions.

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Real world conditions those curved edges have a LOT of glare.
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Pretty impressive for a year old iPhone. I suppose the Android fans will now say that these tests don’t matter anymore, just like they did with benchmarks. The Note looks awfully choppy and glitchy going through it’s paces too. The X Plus, which is the proper comparison to the Note 9, is going to move the iPhone even further past it in terms of performance.

I have high hopes for iOS12 being streamlined. iOS11 on my X is fairly choppy and glitchy, it's the first OS where I felt like I was on a Samsung phone from 3 years ago. I've seen some of the benchmarks on iOS12 and it's supposed to be much faster and smoother, can't wait.

 

[GuruZac]

I’m running iOS 12 Beta 8 now on my iPhone 7 Plus which still is a 95% battery, and the phone is still incredibly fast, fluid, and I have no complaints which will make it hard for me to want to shell out money this year, however, I think it will be the iPhone X second gen for me this Fall. I’m ready to downsize phones and the X seems to be the perfect size. The A12 chip paired to 4GB of RAM on iOS should offer exceptional performance.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

You have completely missed the point. Obviously every flat pane will show reflections if you angle it to deliberately show reflections which is what is always done in advertising shots in order to give the notion of glass, in fact a faux reflection used to be added to icons for the same effect.

However with the Galaxy range the display is *curved* on both sides, that means that if there is any light around it *must* show reflections on the edges and there's no way around that.

And you've apparently completely ignored the suggestion to hop on over to Apple.com and look at Apple's own screenshots of iPhone X- including the head-on screenshots (NOT at an angle). If you do that, you will see that Apple's own, professionally-done photos show glare on TWO edges (on purpose- they CHOSE to use these photos from probably countless others).

Once again, I'm not trying to defend Samsung or show any love for Samsung over Apple here. I'm saying this particular argument seems like a bit of a reach... comparable to "our" tremendous efforts to imply that a key to waterproofing a phone is getting rid of the ONE hole that was the headphone jack while just ignoring the variety of other holes on the same end of the phone just millimeters away (as if water only wants to sneak in through ONE kind of hole).

Apple consciously chooses to show iPhone X photos with edge glare on TWO sides. If glare is as big an issue as multiple arguments about it are trying to make it out to be, apparently it should be 2X the issue with iPhone X because even Apple's own photography is showing it on TWO edges.

If we just want to beat on Samsung, we can go with the fundamentals: Android < iOS, Galaxy < iPhone, Samsung Inc < Apple Inc. There's plenty of fodder there to fill up a thousand forum threads. And to this particular issue, we could just argue Curved < Flat as a matter of personal taste. However, when we start reaching with some detail like edge glare WHILE Apple shows the same on 2 sides in their own imagery, it may be one to just let go... like continuing to argue the "abominations", "who wants a phablet", "need pants with bigger pockets" of bigger-than-4" phone screens AFTER Apple rolled out bigger-screen phones.

Anyone reading this side discussion can easily hop over to Apple and see 2X edge glare for themselves in as little as one click: https://www.apple.com/iphone-x/ ... right on the same page with bigger-screen abominations that probably need pants with bigger pockets and man-purses to carry them around. Otherwise, I think this particular sidebar is towards...

 

[0947347]

In the other words

How does Samsung Galaxy Note 9 measure up to a rumour

 

[FFR]

And you've apparently completely ignored the suggestion to hop on over to Apple.com and look at Apple's own screenshots of iPhone X- including the head-on screenshots (NOT at an angle). If you do that, you will see that Apple's own, professionally-done photos show glare on TWO edges (on purpose- they CHOSE to use these photos from probably countless others).

Once again, I'm not trying to defend Samsung or show any love for Samsung over Apple here. I'm saying this particular argument seems like a bit of a reach... comparable to "our" tremendous efforts to imply that a key to waterproofing a phone is getting rid of the ONE hole that was the headphone jack while just ignoring the variety of other holes on the same end of the phone just millimeters away (as if water only wants to sneak in through ONE kind of hole).

Apple consciously chooses to show iPhone X photos with edge glare on TWO sides. If glare is as big an issue as multiple arguments about it are trying to make it out to be, apparently it should be 2X the issue with iPhone X because even Apple's own photography is showing it on TWO edges.

If we just want to beat on Samsung, we can go with the fundamentals: Android < iOS, Galaxy < iPhone, Samsung Inc < Apple Inc. There's plenty of fodder there to fill up a thousand forum threads. And to this particular issue, we could just argue Curved < Flat as a matter of personal taste. However, when we start reaching with some detail like edge glare WHILE Apple shows the same on 2 sides in their own imagery, it may be one to just let go... like continuing to argue the "abominations", "who wants a phablet", "need pants with bigger pockets" of bigger-than-4" phone screens AFTER Apple rolled out bigger-screen phones.

Anyone reading this side discussion can easily hop over to Apple and see 2X edge glare for themselves in as little as one click: https://www.apple.com/iphone-x/ ... right on the same page with bigger-screen abominations that probably need pants with bigger pockets and man-purses to carry them around. Otherwise, I think this particular sidebar is towards...

Yes that was the marketing material.
This isn’t.
Side by side in the same lighting conditions curved displays have a glare and they are incredibly annoying compared to a flat display.

See for yourself.

 

[DNichter]

Real world conditions those curved edges have a LOT of glare.
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I have high hopes for iOS12 being streamlined. iOS11 on my X is fairly choppy and glitchy, it's the first OS where I felt like I was on a Samsung phone from 3 years ago. I've seen some of the benchmarks on iOS12 and it's supposed to be much faster and smoother, can't wait.

Yea I’ve heard of nothing but problems with iOS 11 and I never had a problem. I haven’t jumped onto the 12 beta yet but all looks positive. The new X’s should be really solid.

 

[jasonharvey777]

And what can the Note do that the upcoming iPhone X plus can’t?? With supposed Apple Pencil support.

I’d rather have a notch than top and bottom bezels. Apples design wins. Note 9 like I’ve said before is a S9 with a stylus. Nothing new here.

As an electrician and business owner who works with other small businesses and restaurant owners I've used the Note series for years as a communication tool. We will be talking about their project and I can easily take a picture of the area I'm going to be working on and then use the S pen to draw directly over it and send it to them. Even if the iPhone X Plus has Apple pen support, it's not going to be as convenient unless it's somehow also inside the body of the phone.

Another thing I don't know if Apple phones can do, but that I use all the time is the ability to have two apps open in split screen simultaneously. Having that ability w/ an S pen practically means I don't need a lap top in the field to do invoicing or price comparisons when I'm building purchase orders.

And a few other minor, but I would say are really useful features for me are the fact that the edge display which I can swipe open from the side at any time is both an app dock and a quick contact link to my wife or rep at my supply house. And when I get some down time I can watch something at the same time as I browse the web with PIP...

I have nothing against the iPhone X and I'm going to advise my wife to get it, but I haven't seen where it even comes close to doing all the things I look for in a phone.

 

[Robiatti]

I just received my Note 9 yesterday and after about 5 hours , I printed a return label and it’s going back today. Before the ip7plus I had been a long term android user. And after using the note 9 for a short bit I quickly missed using my iPX. People rave about Samsung experience 9, but to me it feels every bit as cheesy as older versions of touchwiz.

I’ll just wait till the iPX plus drops. Mainly wanting a bigger screen, having sausage fingers makes typing on the iPX difficult.

 

[WarHeadz]

Is this a first? Comparing an existent phone to a nonexistent one? Apple (and Samsung for that matter) should be more worried about the new upstarts like the Poco F1. Which although have inferior screens. Pretty much match the performance and features for about a quarter of the cost. Why buy a Ferrari to go to the shops when a Ford will do the same job but without the badge on the front.

Lol that’s cute...I’m sure “poco” or whatever really has Apple shaking in their boots. Until the “poco” runs iOS it’s irelevant. Also, for a quarter of the price you get a quarter of the quality. You admit that they have inferior screens, but the screen is the entire phone, why would I want a modern smartphone with a crap screen? And as for your Ferrari and Ford reference, sure they both get you where you need to go, but the Ferrari is a luxurious car that will lead to an all around better driving experience, and those with enough money who can afford them will buy them. There are plenty of budget Androids already on the market, they aren’t a threat because they’re garbage.

 

[Lankyman]

I just received my Note 9 yesterday and after about 5 hours , I printed a return label and it’s going back today. Before the ip7plus I had been a long term android user. And after using the note 9 for a short bit I quickly missed using my iPX. People rave about Samsung experience 9, but to me it feels every bit as cheesy as older versions of touchwiz.

I’ll just wait till the iPX plus drops. Mainly wanting a bigger screen, having sausage fingers makes typing on the iPX difficult.

Well at least you gave it a good test, plus the time to get accustomed to everything. 5 hours, what an embarrassment. I would have at least kept it a couple of weeks.

 

[FFR]

As an electrician and business owner who works with other small businesses and restaurant owners I've used the Note series for years as a communication tool. We will be talking about their project and I can easily take a picture of the area I'm going to be working on and then use the S pen to draw directly over it and send it to them. Even if the iPhone X Plus has Apple pen support, it's not going to be as convenient unless it's somehow also inside the body of the phone.

Another thing I don't know if Apple phones can do, but that I use all the time is the ability to have two apps open in split screen simultaneously. Having that ability w/ an S pen practically means I don't need a lap top in the field to do invoicing or price comparisons when I'm building purchase orders.

And a few other minor, but I would say are really useful features for me are the fact that the edge display which I can swipe open from the side at any time is both an app dock and a quick contact link to my wife or rep at my supply house. And when I get some down time I can watch something at the same time as I browse the web with PIP...

I have nothing against the iPhone X and I'm going to advise my wife to get it, but I haven't seen where it even comes close to doing all the things I look for in a phone.

That’s pretty cool, but personally, i would use an iPad Pro for everything you just described.

An iPhone would be to small, even a 6.4 inch model.

Two apps at 3.2 inch each that’s like going back to a blackberry torch display, no thank you.

 

[simonmet]

Does anyone have the actual dimensions of the dummy units? Screen size is a terrible metric these days with differing aspect ratios. I can't tell how the 7/8 plus compare to the new sizes.

I agree. Screen area and PPI would be more useful.

 

[WarHeadz]

Personally, I think that iPhone 5 design was the best-designed iPhone body to date. I wish I could buy that basic body with a modern iPhones "guts" and the shrunken (but not notched) bezels... keeping the headphone jack too.

Umm..Don’t they call that the “SE”?

 

[jasonharvey777]

I just received my Note 9 yesterday and after about 5 hours , I printed a return label and it’s going back today. Before the ip7plus I had been a long term android user. And after using the note 9 for a short bit I quickly missed using my iPX. People rave about Samsung experience 9, but to me it feels every bit as cheesy as older versions of touchwiz.

I’ll just wait till the iPX plus drops. Mainly wanting a bigger screen, having sausage fingers makes typing on the iPX difficult.

Everyone should get the phone they feel most comfortable with, though i did want to point out that I also have sausage fingers and I'm writing this message solely with my right thumb on the G Board keyboard. I think you can get different keyboards on iPhones now, but swipe writing is so so much better and easier to me than hunt and peck