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Why bother creating a wait list if everyone is automatically approved when they apply?

Another gimmicky marketing play here.

I requested access a little late after realizing I needed to do so and am still on the waitlist an hour later. So it's not instant.
 
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Why bother creating a wait list if everyone is automatically approved when they apply?

Another gimmicky marketing play here.
The wait list is almost certainly due to server capacity. Remember that Siri relies heavily on Cloud Compute. If they let everyone in, it’ll swamp their servers. Today is day one where everyone will probably get in, just because the servers are empty. When all the 27 OS’es go live in September, they’ll already have a large number of release version servers set up.

If you load the beta later, you may not get in on a timely basis.
 
I’m in. First impressions are not great, but I’m hoping that this is down to the phone still indexing. First question I asked was find pictures I took in Tokyo. I got a response saying it couldn’t find any photos taken there. I then pulled up a photo myself and asked why Siri couldn’t find it. Siri provided this response:

“This photo is tagged with the location Kaminarimon,If a surface it, it might be due to how the search index was filtering specific location names at that time.
Why bother creating a wait list if everyone is automatically approved when they apply?

Another gimmicky marketing play here.
System stability. You can hold off the flood gates if too many people tried to join simultaneously and the infrastructure hasn’t scaled to match the demand. Also, the waiting list was not instantaneous. It still took maybe half an hour.
 
Is everyone that’s been accepted from the US? Anyone in Canada or elsewhere? I joined it on my iPad as my phone updated and still just says waiting lol
 
I’m in. First impressions are not great, but I’m hoping that this is down to the phone still indexing. First question I asked was find pictures I took in Tokyo. I got a response saying it couldn’t find any photos taken there. I then pulled up a photo myself and asked why Siri couldn’t find it. Siri provided this response:

“This photo is tagged with the location Kaminarimon,If a surface it, it might be due to how the search index was filtering specific location names at that time.

System stability. You can hold off the flood gates if too many people tried to join simultaneously and the infrastructure hasn’t scaled to match the demand. Also, the waiting list was not instantaneous. It still took maybe half an hour.
what device? I'm curious if they are gating things for compatibility. Saw something about requiring 17 pro for the newer on device functionality. And wondering if those will be the first allowed in. Older devices that work with Apple Intelligence will use private cloud more.
 
So I purchase an iPhone 16 pro max with the promise to be able to use Apple Intelligence, to only be told it was coming soon... and now its here but the iPhone 16 is not compatible with it?

I smell a class action lawsuit coming.
where does it says that iPhone 16 will not be compatible??
 
and can anyone explain why iPhones on EU won't have access to new Siri AI but the MacBooks will? what's the difference ?
 
I think we are going to be left out for a while - looks like US only.
They only said ‘available in Eglish’ during the presentation, and later specified it won’t be available in Europe/China. There was no reference to US only. I’m hopeful. If not, I’ll change my region to US.
 
I’m in. First impressions are not great, but I’m hoping that this is down to the phone still indexing. First question I asked was find pictures I took in Tokyo. I got a response saying it couldn’t find any photos taken there. I then pulled up a photo myself and asked why Siri couldn’t find it. Siri provided this response:

“This photo is tagged with the location Kaminarimon,If a surface it, it might be due to how the search index was filtering specific location names at that time.

System stability. You can hold off the flood gates if too many people tried to join simultaneously and the infrastructure hasn’t scaled to match the demand. Also, the waiting list was not instantaneous. It still took maybe half an hour.
Funny, I just tried the same prompt for a different city. It showed the pictures. I then asked to only show pictures with a person and it did

Give it indexing time
 
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Can someone who already has the new Siri explain this? It seems that only the "Customize how Siri sounds" feature requires an iPhone 17 Pro, iPhone 17 Pro Max, or iPhone Air. Does that mean all older supported models use a local Siri model, or how does it work?
 
I’m a little confused. So Siri Ai will be available or not in the same devices that support Apple Intelligence now? Or is it that some of the more powerful features will only be available in the newer iPhone models?
People are confused in general.

The devices which were sold with Apple Intelligence support get Apple Intelligence support. There are relatively few new Siri features (richer voice quality controls, Siri in the camera app) that require newer hardware.

Behind the scenes, Apple Intellgence is built to use an on-device model which has access to all of your information and context. That local model falls back to making queries to a larger, more power-hungry model in the cloud for questions it is unable to answer. It locally will package up just the information it thinks is needed by that cloud-based model to answer the question, and requires that the cloud infrastructure not be able to save that information once the response is sent back. Apple separately has the ability to call ChatGPT with queries, and in that case you get a consent pop-up since OpenAI does not make the same guarantees about privacy.

The primary confusion is likely that in iOS 27 there will be two different on-device models, depending on the underlying hardware. Newer devices can attempt a bit more work locally before giving up and recruiting cloud infrastructure. Older hardware will need to go to the cloud more often. But they can still both answer the same questions.

There are unanswered questions such as whether you can opt out of the more advanced model. That model likely uses significantly more of your phone's storage, and for simple queries it may very well eat up more battery and take longer to get the same answer.
 
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They only said ‘available in Eglish’ during the presentation, and later specified it won’t be available in Europe/China. There was no reference to US only. I’m hopeful. If not, I’ll change my region to US.
Some Canadians got in, I’m guessing maybe because I first enrolled on my iPad (m4) instead of iPhone 17 pro max.
 
Anyone from UK got access?

Is it like when Apple Intelligence was first added where it had to be set US to get access
 
How to say you know nothing about anything that requires large amounts of data center resouces.
I am quite aware of how this works. I’ve worked in IT and have been an Apple user since the sledgehammer hit the big screen. Still annoying though considering how their entire AI strategy has been a cluster****.
 
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