There's this little thing in Enterprise, it's called desktops and laptops. HP's PC business unit is big there. Who said anything about the consumer market ?
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HP Reverses Course, Will Keep PC Unit
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There's this little thing in Enterprise, it's called desktops and laptops. HP's PC business unit is big there. Who said anything about the consumer market ?
I don't really care about the "business world." The "business world" will shell out for anyone that can give them the best volume deal. HP, Dell, etc. It's all the same crap that employees have to put up with. When these boxes are working like they should, of course. And quite frankly, the MS enterprise ecosystem leaves a helluva lot to be desired. That space is crying out for some innovation and User Experience initiatives.
I'm only interested in the consumer side of things. Since what I and others use at the office isn't my choice; it is one that is made for us by the dictates of management and the IT drones that cater to their budgetary decisions. LOL what typical employee in corporate North America actually enjoys their work PC? Few, if any.
Yes, HP still has their successful enterprise division. So what. It's totally meaningless for you and I as consumers. You can replace every single HP unit in the enterprise with a comparable Dell and chances are, and with few exceptions, business will continue unfettered. Box-maker is box-maker is box-maker. They are OEM shells for universally-licensed operating systems. Barely any differentiation between them. But then again, differentiation and User Experience are not priorities in the enterprise. Perfect for volume-pushers.
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... as are your posts.
His posts make me embarassed to tell people I'm a Mac user. Lest they think I'm as nutty and zealous as he is.
I disagree with the way they got rid of him. However, his cost-cutting was all in the R&D department. That means short-term profits, but you fall behind the competition in the long run. He attempted to make up for that by acquiring companies that had come up with great technologies. I don't think that would end up being cost effective as time went on.
If you're "embarrassed" enough to get rid of your Apple gear altogether, hit me up. We'll do a deal. I'll be happy to take it off your hands.
...says the guy on a Mac forum with the name Mr. Gates, who trumpets the superiority of Windows over OS X.
Why not ? That's what Apple's been doing all these years :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Apple
"Not invented here" syndrome is about as bad as not doing any R&D. There's a sensible middle ground between internal R&D and acquisitions from outside.
It's fine if HP wants to stay in the enterprise market, but after shopping for a new Windows laptop for my significant other, HP's consumer machines are just awful. Too bad they can't build computers that are as sturdy and reliable as my HP 12C.
I ended up getting her a Dell and while it might "appear" to be better, it's pretty much a piece of crap as well. It took less than 6 months for the fan to fail, which resulted in spending a couple of hours with creepy-dell-home-repair-guy (she would have never let him in the door if I wasn't there). Now, after ~18 months, it is having more issues and thankfully we're going to let it die.
The good news is she uses my 13" MacBook Air instead and is getting very comfortable with OS X... the bad news is she is always using my 13" MacBook Air when I'm not traveling... but I'll give it to her once the Dell fully dies so I can buy a newer MBA (hopefully we can make it to the next refresh)
I ended up getting her a Dell and while it might "appear" to be better, it's pretty much a piece of crap as well. It took less than 6 months for the fan to fail, which resulted in spending a couple of hours with creepy-dell-home-repair-guy (she would have never let him in the door if I wasn't there). Now, after ~18 months, it is having more issues and thankfully we're going to let it die.
The good news is she uses my 13" MacBook Air instead and is getting very comfortable with OS X... the bad news is she is always using my 13" MacBook Air when I'm not traveling... but I'll give it to her once the Dell fully dies so I can buy a newer MBA
(hopefully we can make it to the next refresh)
It's fine if HP wants to stay in the enterprise market, but after shopping for a new Windows laptop for my significant other, HP's consumer machines are just awful. Too bad they can't build computers that are as sturdy and reliable as my HP 12C.
I ended up getting her a Dell and while it might "appear" to be better, it's pretty much a piece of crap as well. It took less than 6 months for the fan to fail, which resulted in spending a couple of hours with creepy-dell-home-repair-guy (she would have never let him in the door if I wasn't there). Now, after ~18 months, it is having more issues and thankfully we're going to let it die.
The good news is she uses my 13" MacBook Air instead and is getting very comfortable with OS X... the bad news is she is always using my 13" MacBook Air when I'm not traveling... but I'll give it to her once the Dell fully dies so I can buy a newer MBA
The mid-to-high end HP products are actually great, I'm using one right now and have never had trouble. The low end stuff is exactly that: low end. It's for people who can't afford a decent computer. Spend what you would on a Mac on a Windows laptop and you won't be disappointed.
(For the record my laptop cost half of what a similarly specced MBP costs)
I assume you're speaking generally, because I don't think he plans to.
Are you sure? What about the software that happens when you turn it on?
You have no clue how IT works. IT isn't all about price its about ROI. Getting the best service, the best support, the best integration, and guaranteed roadmaps for future development and projects. You don't know as much as you think you do. You are a smart guy that puts his fingers in his ears and says lalala at anything you don't agree with and it makes you look silly.
I am speaking generally. It was more of a "to anyone looking for a laptop" statement.
Well obviously you would be an exception to that rule, but an unbiased consumer would not take issue. Windows 7 is a solid OS despite any opinion you have.
Yes. I guess I've mentioned it before around here.
I've been in Accounts Recovery/Credit Management for the past decade. But I'm leaving the industry in order to pursue an academic career.
Many people believe that Windows 7 is at least on par with Apple OSX, so that point is debatable.
You may prefer the paradigms in Apple OSX, but that doesn't make it better than Windows except for you.
Others may prefer the paradigms in Windows, but that doesn't make it better than Apple OSX except for them.
I remember you posted that before. I was actually asking if you collected Apple products/paraphernalia.
About 450,000,000 think Windows 7 is better.
Not to be a jerk but being a teacher means you need to open minded to things. I think being a debt collector might suit you better until you learn that both sides of the table have valid arguments and at times your side could be the wrong side.
Unfortunately, if OS X is what you are after, you will be disappointed. The hardware doesn't determine the user experience, the OS does. Some people are fine with Windows, others aren't.
The exception is if you are willing to put up with the hackintosh BS.
No, I don't. I've considered it in the past but I really have no use for older Apple gear. I've kept my old StyleWriter 1200 for sentimental reasons, as well as my old PowerMac 6100/60, because I loved that machine - it was with me for around 8 years and I had some great times with it. ClarisWorks, Bryce, too many great things to list.
Well since the poster stated that he was shopping for a Windows laptop, I assumed it wasn't a problem. If we're going to point out the obvious I should also warn people to not get a blue laptop if they don't like the colour blue, but I thought at some point common sense would kick in.