The mobile internet was here BEFORE Apple, period.
My statement is fact.
I had data plans and apps, a touch screen an OS etc etc
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Huawei's Founder Says He Would 'Protest' if China Retaliates Against Apple Over U.S. Trade Ban
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My statement is fact.
I had data plans and apps, a touch screen an OS etc etc
I did hear that China would give the next order to Airbus. This is just tit for tat. America punishes China and China retaliates.
Google makes a lot of money off of Huawei and Google does not support not being able to sell to them as they are one of their largest customers that pay and boy do they pay Google.. Unfortunately with a stroke of a pen tRump passed a law forbidding Google from being able to sell to Huawei. One could call it a form or sanction or Boycott but when others do it then it is not acceptable
Why is definitely relevant. If you don't know why jobs left the USA then you can't bring them back.
Cost of wages isn't the problem. Factory jobs actually pay well. iPhone factory workers in China earn around $750/month which seems very low... until you compare it to the average wage of $220/month in that country. US factory workers earn an average of almost $80k per year.
When you consider the production capacity per employee, the higher salary in the US isn't all that significant. Wages are $80k per year in the USA because the work they're doing is worth that much.
The real problem is a lack of skilled labour. According to Forbes, one US manufacturing company they profiled said over 70% of people hired aren't qualified for the job. They're hired anyway because an unqualified worker is better than no worker, but it highlights the real problem.
There are not enough people who want manufacturing jobs in the USA. When people really want a job, they go to school and learn the necessary skills as an investment to a life long career. When people enter a job untrained, they often see it as a temporary thing and plan to quit immediately which means it's very risky for the company to pay their salary while they learn.
China has 12,000 schools focusing exclusively on vocational skills in the manufacturing industry - with a reported 29 million students nationwide. There are less than 150 vocational schools in the USA - and a lot of those have nowhere near the thousands of students in a typical Chinese school.
Bringing manufacturing back to the USA needs to be done at an educational level. There are jobs available, there's nobody qualified to fill the jobs.
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It's just PR
Again... it's PR.. nothing more
, he does not believe a word he said he he, but apparently it worked!Keep your friend close, keep your enemy closer!
But...but... but... I was led to believe china was only cheap labor... so now it is qualified labor? /s
I have a chinese Bike, a chinese phone, a chinese laptop, they are all GREAT and worth a lot more than the asking price. There's good and bad product, but they really know how to make great stuff, they should get a lot more credit than they get!
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1 million people is nothing for the Chinese Government.
And Chinese people would gladly sacrifice themselves to help their government fight against foreign rivals.
Anyway the way things are right now Apple is probably going to be the next Samsung in China.
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Really? What tech did Hauwei get from Apple?
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Most complex components are still manufactured in China.
Those countries mostly only have assembly facilities and manufacture just the most basic components.
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To be fair, he's probably not referring to iPhone. My first Apple Newton (which I got in its release year, in 1993) had a PCMCIA slot with Ethernet connectivity. For some reason, I never used it though. When I upgraded to a Newton Messagepad 2000 around 1997, I did buy a Psion Dacom Ethernet card that allowed me to connect to the Internet via a wired connection. This was mainly to browse newsgroups and get email, etc. Later on I went full wireless with an Intel Wireless LAN card and used Nethopper (a basic web browser) to access websites.
If Tim Cook ever talked like that (i don’t think he ever will) I’d stop buying Apple products that very moment. A global company has a national heritage but this is way over the top nationalism.
You mean before iPhone.
Apple existed back to 1976 and had several mobile internet connectivity well before 2007 when the iPhone came out. It's just that the iPhone completely (completely!) transformed the industry overnight and nobody can argue against that. It was a major turning point, and the world is better for it. Therefore, Apple deserves credit for what we have today in terms of elegant touch-screen internet devices.
Yes it's also qualified labor. A lot was invested to train the next generation of engineers in China. A lot of them studied in Wester countries.
Yes. And threatening to beat up your wife can keep her from leaving. But it will most likely come back to haunt you as it rightfully should. Trumps policies are just as destructive. You can bet your behind that countries all over the world are currently working to become less reliant on the Dollar, US tech, etc. Certainly that is a long term thing. But DT has proven beyond a doubt that America has become an unreliable partner. A study on German mid-size companies found that 30% of CEOs currently consider Chinas political business environment good to very good which certainly isn’t a lot. But only 17% said the same about the US.
Political capital built over decades is being burned by this President in just a few years. For what? Basically his reelection. What a poor reason.
You might have missed the /s wich stand for sarcasm, as pointed out i have lots of chinese stuff that I really love and consider undervalued!
Prefere Samsung straight face than silly PR (wich says a LOT).
And also make the product uncompetitive the world over. Very few people outside of America are willing to pay more for a “made in USA” label, and why would they?
Spot on! Quoting to emphasize the importance of your point. We are all in for a bumpy ride.
Oh what is it with you Americans that even receiving respectful words you take it as an opportunity to go OH F(*&^ YOU YEAH AMERICA NUMBER ONE! Huawei doesn't manufacture for Apple or Samsung. You're confusing it with Foxconn who is actually a Taiwanese company. As for the copying, how can they copy their 5G tech if they currently offer the best 5G tech. Let me guess "OH BUT LIKE WE INVENTED THE TELEPHONE SO YEAH THATS OURS!" Grow the hell up. The fear of getting overtaken is really starting to show.
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You hate them cause they're doing well. That's really all you and the rest of the haters have. No evidence of any wrong doing, no a single one at all through all the security audits performed by 3 countries.
And Apple gets credit for Touch ID yet it was the work of AuthenTec so not saying you’re wrong but credit is often misapplied
Well that's still only $4 a day. It's a cup of Starbucks. Make it 36 month contract so people don't pay more than $100 a month and we have a winner. - Tim
Well, then check this out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_browser
Seems the Apple Newton was the first internet-enabled mobile device, already doing it in 1994. Seems his point is valid. Although, chances are someone else would have come up with it. It was merely the mobile version of what was already present on desktops.
They have to respond to lawful demands for available data. They do not have to build custom hardware or software to comply with it. They do not have to allow a live interactive pipe for the authorities to surveil all their clients.
The latter is precisely what Huawei is accused of and what ATT and Verizon already do. They don't need Apple when they have ATT, NTT and others.
This issue came to a head this month because the first 5G deployments of backbone hardware, transceivers, handsets and routers are being tested now. Qualcomm is on the bleading edge of that but the key elements will become FRAND (hence the Apple lawsuit). 5G will BE the internet for all practical purposes going forward for all non-landline users.
It will take 3 years to notice and in 6 you can't avoid it.
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That's the spirit, everything not USA "should be burned to the ground so that for next thousand years, not even a single lizard will survive"
GO USA!!!!
If you can't beat them in the market place, take them to court or ban them, after all, it's the rules you make that everyone must follow! Salute, bahaha and you tell us the Third Reich is evil muahahahaha OMG
Apple resisted helping the FBI get access to the phones from the terrorists in the San Bernardino attack and has been generally reluctant to assist authorities in getting access to data off of encrypted iPhones.
I draw a distinction between those events and a country-wide policy that is basically: A governmental employee will REGULARLY come to your company office and download a complete copy of the company servers and any other computer; no excuse or reason or justification of a potential illegal act is required other than the fact that your company is not a Chinese company is needed.
If you don't see a difference between what you described above and what I described, I don't know what to say.
