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I don't take anything personally on the internet but I must point out your responses went beyond just having a discussion. You ridiculed my point of view and insinuated I'd made up a scenario that didn't favour the iPhone 7. In other words you suggested I am a liar. Something which you can't possibly be qualified to suggest seeing as we don't know each other from Adam.

I apologize if you felt I was picking on you. That wasn't my intention.
I personally just did not believe your claim that's all.
 
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What is the evolution from 3.5mm headphone jack? Is the evolution of 3.5mm headphone jack to lightning cable? That is a bad evolution since only apple device uses lightning cable and the apple mac don't even use lightning cable. This evolution requires dongle to be used.

VHS to DVD and then Bluray are good evolution. Floppy disc to USB pen drive that is good.

That's the thing we're not sure what the evolution of the headphone jack will be. I doubt it will be lightning since that's proprietary and not a standard. Maybe Bluetooth or a better tech will come out.
That's the beauty of advancing tech and sometimes if you don't push the envelope you won't improve ;)
 
I have not been able to find a lightning splitter that enables you to retain the use of the mic and data transfer. Are they available yet? Not even the Belkin one has that capability.
 
I miss it too. This phone was an excuse to pick up a pair of QC35s which I've been after for a while anyway.

But it's a massive pain in the arse from a practical standpoint given I'll still need to buy a bunch of adapters for everything else.

I need 3 adapters that will allow me to charge and plug in a 3.5mm jack at the same time. One for home, the others for the cars because for whatever reason they both support Bluetooth for phone calls but not music. Go figure. I'd rather not get the Belkin thing given that I'll still need lightning to 3.5mm jacks anyway which is BS.
 
Think it is tough now? Just wait until next year.

I believe that Apple will eliminate the Lightning Port from iPhone 8 and go 100% wireless charging. The endgame for iDevices is no ports at all. Jony Ive wants a seamless glass experience for Apple customers.
 
There are aftermarket splitters available

Yes, those are the "OK workarounds" I mentioned.
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Think it is tough now? Just wait until next year.

I believe that Apple will eliminate the Lightning Port from iPhone 8 and go 100% wireless charging. The endgame for iDevices is no ports at all. Jony Ive wants a seamless glass experience for Apple customers.

I'm thinking not because:

  1. Apple makes royalties off of all third party lightening accessories.
  2. They would be preventing people from syncing their iTunes music libraries without paying for Apple Music
  3. They would be forced to include wireless earbuds out of the box, which would completely cannibalize the $150 AirPods.
 
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The removal of storage mediums like floppy disks and CD/DVD drives were valid because there already was a good alternative to portable storage available.

Bluetooth at this time works OK but it's not as reliable as a wired connection. W1 chip is a proprietary example that only improves performance for Apple products and doesn't help to promote a standard - unless it's their attempt to get a chunk of the wireless market through licensing the W1 as a standard.

I still believe they removed the headphone jack because they don't control that standard and want to dip their fingers into another possible market.

With the rumored move to wireless charging only, imagine how it'll be dragging an apple proprietary charging pad in an airport terminal looking for an outlet to charge your dying phone at half the speed of a USB charge.
 
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Think it is tough now? Just wait until next year.

I believe that Apple will eliminate the Lightning Port from iPhone 8 and go 100% wireless charging. The endgame for iDevices is no ports at all. Jony Ive wants a seamless glass experience for Apple customers.

I highly doubt the lightning port would be deleted by the iPhone 8. I do think we eventually see the transition to USB-C eventually. Wireless charging seems very probable by the iPhone 8 though.
 
Maybe Dave Gilmour and others agree with OP:

Is it inconsistent to keep the 3.5mm headphone jack as it’s no longer on the latest iPhone?

Schiller: Not at all. These are pro machines. If it was just about headphones then it doesn’t need to be there, we believe that wireless is a great solution for headphones. But many users have setups with studio monitors, amps, and other pro audio gear that do not have wireless solutions and need the 3.5mm jack.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...rview-phil-iphone-ios-criticism-a7393156.html

Yes like David Gilmour of Pink Floyd who used his iPhone to help record his recent album
I think we can refer David as "a Pro user"

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/david-gilmour-rattle-that-lock-preview/
 
I'll personally say that the removal of the headphone jack annoys me in exactly the ways I predicted it would.

The current bluetooth headphones sound like crap. The new "W1" based headphones might be better, but the Beats X are still unavailable for purchase, and will basically only work within the apple ecosystem. I'll probably end up buying a pair when it comes out, but I don't even have the option yet.

I would normally carry two headphones -- Apple Earpods for phonecalls and video conferences, and UltimateEars In-Ear headphones for Music. I now end up carrying three sets ... one set of earpods for my iPhone, and another for my laptop, and my Ultimate ears with the adapter.

Worst of all ... If I want to listen to music on a long flight, I can't charge and listen to music at the same time. I have a 24 hour long flight coming up soon (Flying to Singapore), and basically my iPhone as a music device has become much less useful.


To those complaining about loss of audiophone quality though ... an iPhone never was an audiophile device. Sure, you can get much better sound quality using a high-end preamp/DAC and headphone amplifier, connected to high end headphones ... But connecting $1000 headphones to an iPhone would just be stupid. If you are in that class, you can buy a portable audiophile DAC which will connect to the lightning port.

I have a DAC. It connects using USB. I guess I have to buy more stuff to stay in the Apple "ecosystem".
 
I dont miss it at all now. I bought 3 adapters.One is always in my car and the other in my backpack and one more I actually plug into.That way I will always have a spare with me. And even if I forget my S6 Edge is always there to plug into
 
considering i use the earbuds without any issue I don't miss it at all but can see why some would given the examples in this thread

I think I just appreciate charging and using the EarPods at the same time. By once the Airpods release, then that will eliminate the need for wired lightning EarPods and I can still charge at the same time.
 
I think I just appreciate charging and using the EarPods at the same time. By once the Airpods release, then that will eliminate the need for wired lightning EarPods and I can still charge at the same time.
I totally get that and personally if i needed to do that I would just listen to music via my ipad. Which i do sometimes if i don't want to use my bluetooth headphones
 
I totally get that and personally if i needed to do that I would just listen to music via my ipad. Which i do sometimes if i don't want to use my bluetooth headphones

That is..whenever the Airpods actually release. Likely thinking January now.
 
It's easy to say to people to try another brand of phone but we all know iOS is only available on Apple products. There is no other brand that I would use because of this quite significant detail.

People here do need to realise that there are iPhone users out there that don't like and accept with warmth everything Apple do. That is a plausible concept away from places like this. This is a discussion forum and it's the place to air frustrations and thoughts that are not always involving high fives and handing out ice cream. I found don't buy the iPhone 7 mainly because it received a £200 price hike but also because the loss of headphone jack made it inferior to the 6S.

I also use AUX in my car everyday and although I could get the adapter, it's a faff and a solution to a problem I didn't need. That's my experience, and if that's not good enough for the more elitist fanboys here, well that's just tough.
Don't consider myself elitist, perhaps a fan of Apple products as they have done me well over the years. Much batter than other brands.

With that said, the jack is gone, it's not coming back. I know it can be a pain to alter ones usual behavior. However, all the moaning and groaning just keeps you focused on your dislike. I don't find my iPhone seven inferior to my 6s. It's faster, better screen color, better camera and the solid state button is preferred by me over the old home button.

I won't defend the jack removal with larger Taptic Engine or waterproofing as that may or may not have merit. I have bought a couple of dongles and have adjusted my life using the Lightning port. It has not been a very great ordeal. I so rarely charged and listened to music at same time, it's a non issue for me.

I was pissed when I lost the original dongle from my pocket within the first 12 hours. I have learned to keep it plugged into the headphones. No more issues.

If you get a pimple and you constantly stare at it, it seems a big deal. Ignore it and the irritation goes away. Same with the jack, stop whining about it, learn to change your learned behavior and move on. It too, is just a pimple. Sore and irritating at first, but iPhone life goes on.
 
Don't consider myself elitist, perhaps a fan of Apple products as they have done me well over the years. Much batter than other brands.

With that said, the jack is gone, it's not coming back. I know it can be a pain to alter ones usual behavior. However, all the moaning and groaning just keeps you focused on your dislike. I don't find my iPhone seven inferior to my 6s. It's faster, better screen color, better camera and the solid state button is preferred by me over the old home button.

I won't defend the jack removal with larger Taptic Engine or waterproofing as that may or may not have merit. I have bought a couple of dongles and have adjusted my life using the Lightning port. It has not been a very great ordeal. I so rarely charged and listened to music at same time, it's a non issue for me.

I was pissed when I lost the original dongle from my pocket within the first 12 hours. I have learned to keep it plugged into the headphones. No more issues.

If you get a pimple and you constantly stare at it, it seems a big deal. Ignore it and the irritation goes away. Same with the jack, stop whining about it, learn to change your learned behavior and move on. It too, is just a pimple. Sore and irritating at first, but iPhone life goes on.

I have already said in this thread that I am aware the future iPhones I will buy will likely not have a headphone jack. I know it's gone and I think it's short sighted of Apple, not revolutionary in any way shape or form. I know they had to sacrifice it for the new home button, I'm aware of that.

I don't doubt the iPhone 7 has a better screen and is faster than the 6S I opted for. It just wasn't worth £200 more for my use-age because I'd be doing the exact same things I am doing now. While there is a top line iPhone with a headphone jack, I will opt for that for now. I saved myself some cash and in all reality most people don't notice or care whether you have the latest iPhone these days.
 
I have already said in this thread that I am aware the future iPhones I will buy will likely not have a headphone jack. I know it's gone and I think it's short sighted of Apple, not revolutionary in any way shape or form. I know they had to sacrifice it for the new home button, I'm aware of that.

I don't doubt the iPhone 7 has a better screen and is faster than the 6S I opted for. It just wasn't worth £200 more for my use-age because I'd be doing the exact same things I am doing now. While there is a top line iPhone with a headphone jack, I will opt for that for now. I saved myself some cash and in all reality most people don't notice or care whether you have the latest iPhone these days.
Then it would seem all is good. You did and will do as you want. As will I and others. Which is the right thing to do for all of us. I just think after making your case and raising your objections it is enough all ready. That's all. The horse is out of the barn, bitching about the door being left open is pointless. In my opinion. Be well, happy holidays and enjoy whatever device suits you best at any particular time.:)
 
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I don't miss the clunky last century technology plug at all, and other than the lightning plug on the EarPods I don't see any difference in them either.

To those who wish that :apple: would bring back the plug - it'll happen immediately after they restore the optical disk drives to the MacBooks. That was also unpopular with a small number of people and you will not see it return either. Instead we now have "the cloud" and have no real use for the disk drives. After the iPhone 8 comes out no one will even remember that plug. In a very few years people visiting a tech museum will be astonished that people ever carried phones that had such old fashioned technology in it. :cool:
 
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I can assure you sharing my views on the headphone jack, not whining or moaning, just sharing, has no negative impact on my enjoyment for the iPhone I am using. I've had it 3 months now and it's as good as ever. I've been pro iPhone for a number of years now and won't buy anything else. I may buy older versions in future however as I'm a little bored paying top whack for very little upgrade.

Just to point out though, the reason I originally stated my opinion on the loss of headphone jack was because that's the topic of this thread. It's probably somewhere to avoid if anybody does not wish to hear my type of views? Not insisting this mind you, just a thought. All the best on your holiday whatever celebration that may be. :)
 
I have not been able to find a lightning splitter that enables you to retain the use of the mic and data transfer. Are they available yet? Not even the Belkin one has that capability.

What? You're kidding? The Belkin splitter doesn't support mic input from the Lightning EarPods? And it doesn't do data transfer either!? So literally all it does is support sound output via Lightning and power/charging? For $40!?

And I thought I was dissapointment when I discovered it didn't support two Lightning headphones at once. They still haven't introduced anything that does that. Sometimes I drive my young nephews on trips, and let them use my iPhone to plug in a headphone splitter and watch a movie or play a game. There's no way to easily do that on the iPhone 7 natively. I'd need to keep the 3.5mm adapter and two sets of 3.5mm EarPods in the car, and the 3.5mm splitter, as well as carry my Lightning EarPods, or use the adapter myself. And then I still need the Belkin adapter if I want to charge it at the same time. Or I could buy some custom BT headphones without the W1 chip, that allow pairing to each other. But that's a pretty expensive solution. Plus I'd need to still carry around my AirPods (if they ever make it to market).

All things considered, the removal of the headphone jack has been a train wreck.
 
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