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Spooner83

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I’m honestly pretty frustrated with Apple’s trade-in process right now, and I’m curious how many others have run into the same thing.

I sent in my M3 MacBook Air in pristine condition—I had a screen protector on it, kept it in a case, and never dropped it. I’ve never had any issues with this MacBook Air at all. Before sending it in, I even checked the physical condition thoroughly and ran diagnostics at home to make sure everything was functioning properly. I take really good care of my gear, so this wasn’t some beat-up laptop. There were no visible problems, no “burn marks,” nothing out of the ordinary.

I was originally quoted $505 for the trade-in.

Then after inspection? They dropped it to $0, claiming there’s a “burn mark that occurs over time.”

That wording alone is wild to me. If something “occurs over time” through normal use, how is that being treated as damage severe enough to make the device worth nothing? It feels like normal wear is being reclassified as a defect just to justify wiping out the value entirely.

What makes this worse is the lack of transparency. They did provide a photo—but there’s no visible burn mark in it. When I pushed back, I was told it “can’t be seen with the naked eye.” That honestly sounds like bullsh*t. If it can’t be seen, how is it being used to justify dropping the value from $505 to $0?

And honestly, this is where it starts to feel shady. Whether it’s Apple directly or the third-party handling inspections, this kind of experience reflects on Apple as a whole. It makes it seem like the system is designed to bring you in with a strong estimate and then completely walk it back once they have your device.

And the bigger issue is this doesn’t seem like a one-off situation. I’ve been seeing more and more people report the same pattern:
- Solid initial estimate
- Device sent in
- Then a massive drop in value due to vague or unverifiable issues

At that point, it starts to feel less like an honest evaluation and more like a system that’s designed to reduce payouts after the fact.

It also makes me question something bigger: do these laptops actually hold their value the way we’re told they do? Because if you can keep a device in near-perfect condition—with protection, no drops, careful use—and still get hit with a downgrade like this, that says a lot.

I get that trade-ins won’t match private sale value, and I’m fine with that trade-off for convenience. But there’s a difference between a fair downgrade and something that feels arbitrary—or in this case, extreme.

Has anyone else experienced this recently? Did you push back or just decline and sell privately?

Because right now, this whole process feels way less trustworthy than it should.
 
The two times I have sent devices to Apple Trade In I have had good luck.

The first was a 2019 MacBook Air for an M1 MBA, and it had a pretty big scratch on the lid from being stuck in a recliner. Apple gave me full $550 credit.

The second was an iPhone 13 Pro with a deep scratch on the screen caused by a stylus from Amazon. Apple gave full $600 credit.

However, I no longer trade in. When I got my iPhone Air I sold my 15 Pro on eBay. There was a hairline crack in which Apple would have given me only about $110 for. I sold it on eBay, and after fees, I got $340.
 
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I've certainly heard of it happening; hasn't happened to me personally. I did have a Mac value dropped to $0 but I "knew" there was an issue with the USB port (12" MacBook so just the one) and it was perhaps a judgement call, so the dice didn't fall in my favor. Otherwise no issues.

But yeah, it does happen. I don't know if it's 0.1% or 1% or 10% of the time. But it does happen. If you can take it into a store, that's the best bet. For me, that's a 4+ hour round trip so not really practical.

You can of course not accept the "Revised value" and receive it back. I didn't do that with the 12" MacBook because selling it independently with the faulty USB port would be more trouble than it's worth to me. But that calculus might change depending on circumstances.
 
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I will add, I tried to trade in my 2017 MacBook Pro and took it to the Apple Store, but the bezel was cracked. Screen, battery, and everything was perfectly fine. However, they would give me $0. They wouldn't even give me the $50 estimated from the website for one with a broken screen, which mine did not have.

I decided to keep that laptop.
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This is why its better to sell the computer and not try to rely on a trade in.

I'm not shocked at all, apple is in the business of selling computers (and things), not buying them
 
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This whole situation has really changed how I look at Apple’s trade-in program. It makes it feel like MacBooks don’t actually hold their value the way people say they do—because even when you take great care of them, that doesn’t seem to matter in the end.



I was relying on the quoted trade-in value to afford a new MacBook Air, so having it dropped like this completely threw off my plan. At this point, I’ll have to return the new one and just keep my current M3. Someone is going to have a nice refurbished m5 MacBook Air only a few days old. (see what you caused, Apple? Your new laptop is now going to be sold as a refurbished laptop because you chose third-party appraisal).



What’s frustrating is there’s nothing wrong with the one I sent in. It works perfectly, I used it almost every day, and I’ve taken really good care of it. The only issue they mentioned is this supposed screen “burn” that I still can’t actually see. Once it’s returned, I’ll just keep using it like I always have.



But the bigger takeaway for me is how this was handled. The process feels inconsistent and hard to trust, and that reflects on Apple overall. It’s not that they don’t make solid products—they do—but situations like this make it feel like the value and customer experience don’t match the reputation anymore.



Right now, it honestly feels like a shift toward more rigid, corporate-style policies that don’t leave much room for fairness or transparency, and that’s disappointing as someone who’s been a customer for 17 years.
 
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I've done the trade-in at least twice and both times I got what they quoted me as having. I live in a smoke free home and take fairly good care of my devices. No scratches, or anything (but maybe not pristine). I'm sorry this happened to you because it doesn't sound right. A burn mark that can't be seen? What the heck is that?

I would definitely consider what @Apple_Robert suggested, having the trade-in done in store (if possible).
 
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You got screwed over by the third party service Apple contracts with for mail-ins. That particular company has a very bad rep for this kind of thing. In the future, I would do the trade-in at the store, when possible. That way, you will get your quoted price.
Won't help the OP, but this is why I've never done a remote trade-in. I want the trade-in value locked in before I walk out of the store.
 
I was relying on the quoted trade-in value to afford a new MacBook Air, so having it dropped like this completely threw off my plan. At this point, I’ll have to return the new one and just keep my current M3. Someone is going to have a nice refurbished m5 MacBook Air only a few days old. (see what you caused, Apple? Your new laptop is now going to be sold as a refurbished laptop because you chose third-party appraisal).
Relieving to hear you can still get it back!
What’s frustrating is there’s nothing wrong with the one I sent in. It works perfectly, I used it almost every day, and I’ve taken really good care of it. The only issue they mentioned is this supposed screen “burn” that I still can’t actually see. Once it’s returned, I’ll just keep using it like I always have.

But the bigger takeaway for me is how this was handled. The process feels inconsistent and hard to trust, and that reflects on Apple overall. It’s not that they don’t make solid products—they do—but situations like this make it feel like the value and customer experience don’t match the reputation anymore.

Right now, it honestly feels like a shift toward more rigid, corporate-style policies that don’t leave much room for fairness or transparency, and that’s disappointing as someone who’s been a customer for 17 years.
Then why not just take it to an Apple Store in person in the future and trade it in there? I'm by no means suggesting to be dishonest, ask them what is would be worth and point out that a third party claimed there was an invisible burn-in that you can't see. At least if they agree with the third party, they can show you exactly where and what this mythical burn-in is.
 
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Then why not just take it to an Apple Store in person in the future and trade it in there? I'm by no means suggesting to be dishonest, ask them what is would be worth and point out that a third party claimed there was an invisible burn-in that you can't see.
IMO, there is nothing dishonest about that. They even told the OP, it can't be seen with the naked eye. That reminds me of the old saying "if a tree falls in a forest and there was no one around to hear it, does it make a sound"?

I would just take the laptop straight to an Apple store and do a trade towards a new MacBook.
 
Tried the mail in trade-in once with an iPad and they sent it back saying that there was an issue with the screen colour or something. They offered to dispose of it for $0 😀

Had them send it back and sold it privately.

I'll only ever trade in to the stores directly now.
 
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When I was trading in my 14 inch M1 Pro MacBook Pro for a 14 Inch M4 Pro MacBook Pro, I first received an email on a Friday a few days after they physically received the M1 machine that after an initial examination everything looked good and that I should be on the look out for a final email confirming my refund shortly. Well about 24 hours after that I received an email saying that due to " screen discoloration/streaking " my trade in value has been revised from nearly $1,000 to $0 and would I like to have it returned or kindly recycled by them lol. I genuinely chuckled at the revised offer since I knew my machine was in pristine condition and the pictures they tried to pass off as mine were BS.

Anyway, I called Apple and asked them why would I have a damaged screen id be using and sending in when I had a fully Apple Care Plus covered laptop they forced me to take off warranty when I was resetting it to send back in? I also told them I took pictures of any MacBook just before shipping it off showing it in flawless working and non working condition.

They told me the story made sense and in about a day I received an email saying they'd honor my original trade in offer. Really glad that worked out as I didn't want to go through the hassle of reselling it ( if they didn't send me back a lemon bait and switched one ) and rebuying and setting the MacBook again over and over.

I'm sorry that it's the new reality, from now on if I'm trading anything of substantial value in, I'm definitely doing it in person from now on.
 
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I was quoted about $1200 for my 27" inch iMac (pristine condition). I sent it to them and they sent me an email saying they were going to adjust the amount to $0 because the backlight didn't work. They said they could recycle it for me or send it back. I told them to send it back. When I got it I discovered it was in perfect working order.

I complained to Apple about it and got nowhere. If you do a little searching you will find these bogus price adjustments are not uncommon.

I am sure the majority of people that use Apple's trade-in program have a good experience but there is no question the company handling Apple's trade-ins is doing some shady stuff…IMHO.
 
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With these accounts it sounds like they have some bad employees. Most do their job like everyone else and are honest but that whole "we'll recycle it for $0" sounds like an employee (or maybe a few) hoping you'll go for it so they can claim you said "go ahead" and then resell it themselves. When you don't go for it, he just returns it. And nothing else happens. The perfect crime. I seriously hope this isn't the case.
 
With these accounts it sounds like they have some bad employees…
That is certainly possible although I have a different theory. I think it has to do with inventory management.

I think there are times when they get a lot more trade-ins then they anticipated. For instance, I was trading-in my iMac for the just released M1 MacBook Pro Max. I would imagine new Apple hardware causes an uptick in trade-ins that might be hard for them to accurately predict. Some new models are more popular than others and if a new model causes a huge increase in trade-ins they will have a supply and demand problem.

So, if they suddenly have a glut of trade-ins, they might find it difficult to sell all of them on the secondhand market. I believe when this situation occurs it is the most likely time that the estimates start getting slashed for some folks. In my case, I think they received a lot more 27" iMacs then they anticipated so they were no longer willing to pay the quoted price.

When it happened to me, I did some searching and it seems to happen across all Apple hardware; iPhones, iPads and Macs. It is cheaper for them to adsorb the shipping cost to send the hardware back rather than to stockpile hardware that they will find difficult to sell.

I don't believe Apple is not aware of what is going on. I am sure they have "plausible deniability" but I believe it is common enough that they must know about it and just look the other way.
 
That is certainly possible although I have a different theory. I think it has to do with inventory management.

I think there are times when they get a lot more trade-ins then they anticipated. For instance, I was trading-in my iMac for the just released M1 MacBook Pro Max. I would imagine new Apple hardware causes an uptick in trade-ins that might be hard for them to accurately predict. Some new models are more popular than others and if a new model causes a huge increase in trade-ins they will have a supply and demand problem.

So, if they suddenly have a glut of trade-ins, they might find it difficult to sell all of them on the secondhand market. I believe when this situation occurs it is the most likely time that the estimates start getting slashed for some folks. In my case, I think they received a lot more 27" iMacs then they anticipated so they were no longer willing to pay the quoted price.

When it happened to me, I did some searching and it seems to happen across all Apple hardware; iPhones, iPads and Macs. It is cheaper for them to adsorb the shipping cost to send the hardware back rather than to stockpile hardware that they will find difficult to sell.

I don't believe Apple is not aware of what is going on. I am sure they have "plausible deniability" but I believe it is common enough that they must know about it and just look the other way.
Yea, this is another viable explanation. And it does makes sense too. But I will say that Apple does reduce the values of trade ins as time goes on. I know this because a couple years ago I had some delays in making a buying decision and my trade in value went down. This is understandable because my hardware is aging and they are receiving trade ins like mine.
 
They gave me the full price, just this week. But I would not have done this if I’d read these stories.
 
I had the opposite experience. When I bought my M1 MBP in 2021, they offered me $170 trade for my 2013 21.5" iMac. Not bad for an 8 year old machine, I thought. After I shipped it back and they evaluated it, they decided it was worth more, and they gave me a $50 gift card.
 
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Yea I would suggest always doing trade in's in person at the Apple Store, otherwise you're potentially actually dealing with another 3rd party company.
 
For fun I put my Mini into the trade-in, and it told me my 1-year-old Mini was worth $300 ($2100 MSRP). It's pristine, and I'm using it to write this post.
 
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Q:

If you do a trade-in on a new apple purchase and decide “nope, 14 day return window” - can you get your old device back?

If they valued it at $x, then give you 0, and you’re not happy with the deal on the new thing, surely that should be reversible? I mean if the value is literally $0 - i want the thing back! It has more value TO ME than that.

Genuine question, i’m not sure how that works?
 
For fun I put my Mini into the trade-in, and it told me my 1-year-old Mini was worth $300 ($2100 MSRP). It's pristine, and I'm using it to write this post.
One drawback to Apple trade values; they don't seem to be affected by CTO specs. You get the value of a "Base" model, no matter what.

My Mac mini (base M4 Pro) was valued at $555, so I presume you have a M4 (not Pro) but with extra RAM and storage.
 
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