I can't decide Xbox 360 Elite or a PS3

[zero2dash]

Why do some people feel the need to "go to bat" for a system over and over around here? I love my Wii and my 360 but they are both flawed. If someone says something negative about the Wii or 360 I don't defend it and then start attacking the PS3 b/c of it. I listen to what others opinions are and try to understand their point of view. Sometimes I agree and sometimes I do not.

Any logical person should be able to accept that none of these systems cure cancer, fight world hunger, create peace, or even make you dinner. Not a single one of them are perfect and without flaw. Take a deep breath, accept the flaws and the people pointing them out, and enjoy your system

I am a long time member of MacRumors and am on here almost daily. I've been playing video games since the early 80's and have owned ALOT of games and systems. I can appreciate them all for what they are/were good at. Part of the reason I enjoy coming to MacRumors is that I can be on one forum and read about Apple-related stuff and Video-game-related stuff. But the 'Console Games' Forum (and the Apple Games section before a sub-forum was created) is ridiculous. The same arguments over-and-over. It would seem that this is a waste of a lot of peoples time and no one can be gaining any intelligence from the repetition of this, can they? It is honestly the only part of MacRumors that ever bothers me.

Enjoy your PS3....enjoy your Wii....enjoy your 360.....after all, that's the point of each system regardless of what they can/cannot do.

If there wasn't a limit on signatures...that's my new sig right there.

Excellent points Jovian.
Very well said...

 

[2nyRiggz]

Let me tell you guys something....you can kick your knowledge as much as you want but it won't stop...I know I've tried myself...just sit back and enjoy the ride.


Didn't the OP already made his decision...why is this thread still living? I never bothered checking in this thread since I thought he did his due.



Bless

 

[tkepongo]

get the 360 elite (or premium if you want 1080p through vga and save $80). the ps3 online may be free, but it sucks! i have both consoles at home, and the speed to download and update on ps3 is 10 times slower than the 360. i have ghost recon vegas on both consoles (got the 360 version for free) the lag is impossible, and there is by far less players compared to the 360. i guess if you compared the price of the 360 to the ps3, the ps3 is cheaper (360, hd-dvd- wifi =$760) but the games on ps3 sucks so far (besides resistance and ninja gaiden) and the online is terrible.

 

[e²Studios]

get the 360 elite (or premium if you want 1080p through vga and save $80). the ps3 online may be free, but it sucks! i have both consoles at home, and the speed to download and update on ps3 is 10 times slower than the 360. i have ghost recon vegas on both consoles (got the 360 version for free) the lag is impossible, and there is by far less players compared to the 360. i guess if you compared the price of the 360 to the ps3, the ps3 is cheaper (360, hd-dvd- wifi =$760) but the games on ps3 sucks so far (besides resistance and ninja gaiden) and the online is terrible.

Did Hao or gkarris just register a new account?

You have Ghost Recon for PS3? Do share, the demo (GRAW) just came out Thursday on PSN. Judging by your comments i would say that you don't own a PS3 at all and that you are very adept at trolling.

Ed

 

[progx]

I'd wait. I was pondering an Xbox 360, then I found all their games are DVDs! It explains a lot, especially why games are so short, they're outputting great graphics, but no longevity.

The PS3 on the other hand, the games are all Blu-ray. More storage space on each disc, so great graphics and long games! And better hardware, the PS3 automatically shuts down if it's overheating.

But, in all honesty, I got a Wii, and I'm damn happy I did. It's amazing! My next system will be a PS3. I don't see the 360 being around for much longer, especially when the consoles are getting pushed to their limits. Since the 360 is pretty damn close to what it can take. I was just shocked to know they weren't HD-DVD discs for the games, I can't believe it, how can a DVD stand up to a Blu-ray disc?

Oh, for PS3, Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavenly Sword and God of War. Best franchises in the gaming world next to Nintendo's Mario, Zelda and Metroid. All MS has got is Halo.

Get the PS3. I'd get the 60 GB now since the 80 GB won't have the Emotion engine. If you want more storage space, go and buy a laptop hard drive at Newegg and install it in your PS3. The system will even format it for you.

 

[zero2dash]

FUD monster alert.

I'd wait. I was pondering an Xbox 360, then I found all their games are DVDs! It explains a lot, especially why games are so short, they're outputting great graphics, but no longevity.

And Wii's DVD titles are any different?
10-20 hours for a DVD format game is far from 'short'.
But I guess you're waiting for the next Final Fantasy to have 120 hours on BluRay.

The PS3 on the other hand, the games are all Blu-ray. More storage space on each disc, so great graphics and long games! And better hardware, the PS3 automatically shuts down if it's overheating.

The only thing BluRay has been admitted to work with in terms of the use of extra space is all the ridiculous FUD that Factor 5 has spread about "single levels in Lair are 13gb", ridiculous. Optimize the code and remove the bunk data, I guarantee it's not 13gb.

I don't see the 360 being around for much longer, especially when the consoles are getting pushed to their limits. Since the 360 is pretty damn close to what it can take. I was just shocked to know they weren't HD-DVD discs for the games, I can't believe it, how can a DVD stand up to a Blu-ray disc?

Oh so knowing one, please do show links that demonstrate that the 360 has peaked its graphical and horsepower limits.

Or, don't, because that's FUD.

If you want to favor one system over another, do so.
Don't be a blatantly ignorant fanboy and spread FUD; go elsewhere for that. IGN, Gamefaqs, 1up...those all have plenty of active threads and posting members to argue FUD with. Not here.

Oh, for PS3, Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavenly Sword and God of War. Best franchises in the gaming world next to Nintendo's Mario, Zelda and Metroid. All MS has got is Halo.

See, Franchise by definition, is an established series of games in one particular storyline.
Please, do show when there have been other Heavenly Sword titles. You know, since it's an established franchise.

I love God of War more than most people and can't wait to get a PSP for Chains of Olympus (and a Ps3 for GoW3) but comparing a 2-title franchise to a storied longtime franchise (with more than 2 current titles) like Zelda, Mario or Metroid is ridiculous.

Get the PS3. I'd get the 60 GB now since the 80 GB won't have the Emotion engine.

Well, thank you! You do actually post facts sometimes!

 

[A Pittarelli]

i was going through the same dilemma and went with the ps3 and couldnt be happier about the desicion

 

[Jovian9]

If there wasn't a limit on signatures...that's my new sig right there.

Excellent points Jovian.
Very well said...

Thanks! I try to not get involved in these "dog-chasing-it's-own-tail-discussions" but as a MacRumors fan and video game fan I finally had to let a little bit of rant out of me

 

[0098386]

Wow, Progx. It's obvious you like the PS3 and all, but come on! That was just a very silly post

As Z2D has said - 360 games aren't short. Some are (minigames), some aren't (RPG's, action games).

 

[Chone]

Wow, Progx. It's obvious you like the PS3 and all, but come on! That was just a very silly post

As Z2D has said - 360 games aren't short. Some are (minigames), some aren't (RPG's, action games).

In any case, media size doesn't have any relation to game length.

The current average game length of games nowadays (which I think is short) is a deliberate decision by the developers to offer very little hours but make them extremely explosive and fun, full of climax and without any stales. This is a reason why a game like God of War is a mere 7 hours... but those 7 hours are pretty darn good. It has little to do with the size of the optical media.

F.E.A.R. is such a game, I really liked fear but if it had been a few hours longer I would have shattered my disc in two, battles become too repetitious near the end (I was literally cursing through the last battles, I was sick of these damn replicas showing over and over again... come on man I want to see what happens with the protagonist, with Alma, Fettel, etc, not keep blowing these damn soldiers for the 1923094273498th time) and the only reason I kept playing was because the hallucination cutscenes are awesome and I was really interested to see where the story ended.

So this is a discussion best left for a different thread altogether but if you think PS3 games will be longer because they are on blu-ray then you are a fool my friend.

 

[e²Studios]

In any case, media size doesn't have any relation to game length.

Thats what she said..

 

[zero2dash]

Thats what she said..

then she said...'is that a BD in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?'
*zing!*

 

[Chone]

LOL yeah I know my comments were directed at that progx guy or whatever, I don't even know why I quoted Jimmi, I guess I was just supplementing his post, not refuting it.

Cheers

 

[noodle654]

I would go 360 for the following reasons:

-3 Year Warranty from the "3 Red Lights" which is common because the MoBo seems to warp from heat and CPU's get damaged.
-Graphics are much better than PS3 ( I have played COD3 on PS3 and Xbox 360 and Xbox is much brighter and "cleaner")
-Better Games
-Xbox Live of course
-Hard Drive size
-Style

Blue Ray isnt that great and there isnt worth buyinh a PS3 when the good games are on Xbox.

When it comes to speed and Graphics, lets look at it:

Xbox 360:

PowerPC Triple Core designed by IBM. Each core runs at 3.2GHz. 21.6GB/s Front side bus. 1MB Level 2 Cache on die running at half CPU clock speed.

ATI Graphics: Contains 2 separate silicon dies each with a clock speed of 500MHz and has a 10MB eDRAM.

512MB GDDR3 RAM clocked at 700MHz.

PS3:

PowerPC based PPE and six accessible 3.2GHz. A seventh runs in a special mode dedicated to the OS.

GPU: NVIDIA G70 with a 256MB GDDR3 VRAM clocked at 550MHz. 1.3GHz and the XDR main memory via the CPU.

Overall, the systems are about the same but PS3 has extra features such as Blue-Ray and such.

 

[Jack Flash]

Overall, the systems are about the same but PS3 has extra features such as Blue-Ray and such.

So, even though they have pretty much the same games, the PS3 is more reliable, the PS3 has more features, and the PS3 has free online gaming, oh and lest me forget the PS3 has games that aren't just FPSs, you'd pick the Xbox 360?

 

[synth3tik]

They are both junk with high failure rates. Save you money for something useful

 

[0098386]

So, even though they have pretty much the same games, the PS3 is more reliable, the PS3 has more features, and the PS3 has free online gaming, oh and lest me forget the PS3 has games that aren't just FPSs, you'd pick the Xbox 360?

You can't say pretty much the same games as the 360 has countless, yes many are FPS, but guess what! The whole library isn't! I know surprising isn't it!
You missed out-
PS3 has cack online and controller (when rumours of a new controller as rampant as 360 MGS4 and HD Wii, you know a lot of people want it) compared to 360.
cheapest PS3 costs £160 than the most expensive 360. That's a lot of games extra.

Why did you miss them out? And the PS3 can have all the features in the world, if it's missing the games then it can't compete as a gaming platform against the 360.

 

[noodle654]

So, even though they have pretty much the same games, the PS3 is more reliable, the PS3 has more features, and the PS3 has free online gaming, oh and lest me forget the PS3 has games that aren't just FPSs, you'd pick the Xbox 360?

When I decided what to buy, I chose the Xbox 360 for the following: Nobody has a PS3 compared to the Xbox 360. Yes the Xbox 360 has a high failure rate, but it does have a 3 year warranty compared to a PS3 1 year. I have had my first Xbox 360 (first release) replaced and it was pretty easy. I called Microsoft, they sent me a new one, and then I sent my other one back. I would much rather have a Xbox 360. This is my opinion.

 

[dubbz]

I would go 360 for the following reasons:

-3 Year Warranty from the "3 Red Lights" which is common because the MoBo seems to warp from heat and CPU's get damaged.

I don't see how that is a good reason to get a 360. I'd rather not have it break in the first place.

 

[noodle654]

I don't see how that is a good reason to get a 360. I'd rather not have it break in the first place.

The PS3 has similar problems. Since BOTH systems are so power demanding, the heat kicks in and after awhile it starts to get worse. But, this only happens when playing for long periods of time. If I play about 4 hours a day, no problems at all. But if I were to play 15 hours non stop, you will notice the heat and loud fans. Both systems have this problem and there is nothing you can do about it. This is the same with the Macbook Pro overheating. I would much rather have a 360. But, these problems do not always occur. I have had my Xbox 360 for now 8 months with no problems, and the heat issue I think has been getting better and better and I am happy that Microsoft is noticing the problems and is fixing them.

 

[noodle654]

You can't say pretty much the same games as the 360 has countless, yes many are FPS, but guess what! The whole library isn't! I know surprising isn't it!
You missed out-
PS3 has cack online and controller (when rumours of a new controller as rampant as 360 MGS4 and HD Wii, you know a lot of people want it) compared to 360.
cheapest PS3 costs £160 than the most expensive 360. That's a lot of games extra.

Why did you miss them out? And the PS3 can have all the features in the world, if it's missing the games then it can't compete as a gaming platform against the 360.

I totally agree with you.

 

[e²Studios]

The PS3 has similar problems.

Prove it. Now you are just talking out your arse. The PS3 has a solid build, there were very few to no problems with any of the launch PS3s, and certainly a high percentage of current PS3s have no issues. The few that did have issues were blu-ray diode issues and not heat related.

If you are going to troll at least do some research before running off at the mouth.

Ed

(If Jovian the local grammar police dissaproves of my grammar or spelling he can kiss my ***)

 

[0098386]

Well one of our imports wouldn't turn on. That was a power issue but since we brought it over ourselves - nothing we could do about it! Salvage is good, though.

They're not invincible by any means, neither are the Wii or DS (IMO Nintendo's weakest designs). It's just that the 360 failure rate is something horrific like 33%. 1/3 of people have had a problem with a 360. sheesh!

Kiss my... wild donkey?

 

[e²Studios]

Well one of our imports wouldn't turn on. That was a power issue but since we brought it over ourselves - nothing we could do about it! Salvage is good, though.

They're not invincible by any means, neither are the Wii or DS (IMO Nintendo's weakest designs). It's just that the 360 failure rate is something horrific like 33%. 1/3 of people have had a problem with a 360. sheesh!

Kiss my... wild donkey?

That could have happened during international shipping too I'm not claiming that the PS3 is impervious to any damage, but the failure rate is substantially lower than the 360's.

My DS hinge broke, Nintendo support is awesome though and they fixed it pretty damn fast

Ed

 

[zero2dash]

So, even though they have pretty much the same games

/snip

Do you realize that in the same run-on sentence you then contradicted yourself with:

oh and lest me forget the PS3 has games that aren't just FPSs

pwned.
So which is it...the Ps3 has nothing but FPS's, or...they both have the same games?
Please, do elaborate.

the PS3 has more features

If you count flash stick slots as "extra features" on a video game console, then you have more problems than we all thought you did.
As for BluRay...yes, we all know that BluRay is absolutely 100% required these days to play video games. I mean, after all...all future shipping PCs and Macs will ship with BluRay drives instead of DVD drives because Crysis is BluRay-only. /sarcasm

and the PS3 has free unmoderated online gaming

...fixed that one for you.
I sure hope you don't play with any cheaters on the PSN because...d'oh! there's no one to report them to! OH NOES!!!~!

Having a field day with the Sony fanboys today I am.