I misunderstood, I thought the tweet was referring to the X's display being 2 years ahead of Samsung, thus my reply.
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I do not understand the 'notch' angst at all.
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I misunderstood, I thought the tweet was referring to the X's display being 2 years ahead of Samsung, thus my reply.
Here's my take on it:
There needs to be quite a bit of space devoted to the hardware of the front-facing camera, proximity sensor, earpiece speaker, and all the FaceID stuff.
Apple could have just made a solid bezel across the top of the phone like any other phone in this generation.
Instead... they gave us two little extra screens on either side! All the hardware goodies are in the middle... and we get extra screens for mundane static things like the clock, battery and carrier info.
People call it a "notch" because they think it cuts into the screen... as if it's taking away screen area.
I think it's the complete opposite. I think Apple is giving us bonus screens!
Maybe I'm trying to make lemonade... but I'm stickin' to it!
You hit it on the head! - If they didn't give us the extra screen then the time/wifi/battery and carrier info would protrude into our content! So WHY NOT?
Ever since the first rumors/part leaks came out with this design I loved it - I am a Graphic Designer and for someone to say its not good design because its not symmetrical is ridiculous. It just needs balance and if the software does this while the phone is on, because that is the only time you see the notch - then its fine and from what I have seen how Apple handles it - its balanced. Obviously the end goal is full bezel less screen, but where does the front facing camera/speaker go - they have to balance use/function and design.
I remember 2.5 years ago, S6 edge was the most beautiful smartphone I had ever seen. The keyword is "seen." Once I tried typing on curved displays, it became an ugly experience. Awkward ergonomics.
This Topnotch Phone X/Notcho King shouldn't be as troublesome to hold or type on as that dual edged, cosmetic gimmick. The only notches I want is on my bedpost but I can live with this one on a phone.
Let's reserve judgment, people. Remember when people laughed at the first Galaxy Note? Now that's standard size. Or Touch ID? Who's laughing now? I don't really see a big deal with the notch. I am more bothered knowing Apple only put 3gb of RAM on the iPhone X while the iPad Pro gets 4 and its the cheaper device!
I see posts about the Apple/LG foldable display with comments saying why do we need foldable screens? How can they have an opinion if they never tried it before? Let's just wait and see. This notch is not even worse than curved displays which I found beautiful for a time but no longer want it.
This Topnotch Phone X/Notcho King shouldn't be as troublesome to hold or type on as that dual edged, cosmetic gimmick. The only notches I want is on my bedpost but I can live with this one on a phone.
Let's reserve judgment, people. Remember when people laughed at the first Galaxy Note? Now that's standard size. Or Touch ID? Who's laughing now? I don't really see a big deal with the notch. I am more bothered knowing Apple only put 3gb of RAM on the iPhone X while the iPad Pro gets 4 and its the cheaper device!
I see posts about the Apple/LG foldable display with comments saying why do we need foldable screens? How can they have an opinion if they never tried it before? Let's just wait and see. This notch is not even worse than curved displays which I found beautiful for a time but no longer want it.
From the standpoint of the displays, I don't think Apple is far ahead of Samsung. Samsung has put a lot of effort into improving their displays and recently started winning DisplayMate "Best of" ratings. However I would trust Apple more than Samsung to prioritize color accuracy over "punch".
The Wifi, battery and other indicators on the top bar would not protrude, it will be a flushed rectangular even screen like we had before and all other smartphone manufacturers use.
I bought the 8 over the X because of the notch. The reason I’m personally bitching about it so much is most likely, next year they’re gonna force this terrible design decision on all of us with the iPhone 9 or whatever.
The notch is an ugly, screen wasting, crappy design period. The fact that they had to make a bunch of workarounds for certain things because the notch would be in the way just goes to show how bad of a design it is.
The notch is an ugly, screen wasting, crappy design period. The fact that they had to make a bunch of workarounds for certain things because the notch would be in the way just goes to show how bad of a design it is.
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Because simply the display is not edge to edge.
Ah, I see. Then I suppose the argument is that an edge to edge screen does not exist..? Or, have you folks decided the allowable measurement of bezel to allow the phone to be called ‘edge to edge’
Or, have you folks decided the allowable measurement of bezel to allow the phone to be called ‘edge to edge’
Apple has already decided
Apple could sell 50,000,000 turds and you seem like one of those who would camp out 48 hours in advance just to get one, because it's Apple. That is besides the point. I merely responded to your question, and then you see fit to respond with that rubbish. It's a cut out, it eats into tbe oled display, yes the ears do form part of the real estate but who wants ears? No one in their right mind thinks that's a good idea. Now if the ears were used for signals only and nothing else, absolutely nothing else, not even the option to have video play around it, then fine, but no, the cut out sits directly on top of your content. I call ******** when i see it and the notch is one of those occassions. Apple, for all of its human, financial, intellectual and capital resources, could not come up with something better. But I suppose when they have its cheersquad members like you defending it, why do they have to bother?
Answer me this: would the X be better without the notch? Or do you actually like it there? An X with a full edge to edge notchless display or what we see now with the notch? I don't know about you, but give me the notchless edge to edge display every single farking day of the week. That's what I'm talking about. Anything less is a flaw and a compromise. But you keep defending it and accepting second best, you're not doing anyone any favours because as long as we have 50,000,000 people lije you buying their turds, they'll keep turning out rubbish like we see with the notch.
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Why do some folks reuse to admit the possibility of other people wanting to purchase the X without them being labeled one of ‘those people’?
Hit a bit of a raw nerve did I? Not surprising to hear to call 50,000,000 people blind apple fanboys. It is not a cut out of the display because there was never going to be display in the space that is occupied by the camera and other sensors. The sensors HAVE to be there FFS don't they, I mean you don't need to be Brain of Britain to see that. However Apple then extended the display on either side of the sensor.
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How do you know there was never going to be a usable touchscreen up there between the "ears"?
Wouldn't it be 100 times better if it was an even and symmetrical rectangular screen instead of the bad joke they're putting out now?
I'd even go with removing the ears completely and blocking out that top part where the sensors are instead of what they did with this device.
Wouldn't it be 100 times better if it was an even and symmetrical rectangular screen instead of the bad joke they're putting out now?
I'd even go with removing the ears completely and blocking out that top part where the sensors are instead of what they did with this device.
I agree with OP. Yeah everyone has an opinion but it's damn annoying. And some of us can forsee after its released people will get used to it and stop ranting. So what's the point. It's human nature to state your opinion but it's also human nature to adapt and get used to things.
Why would it be 100x better to have a full on forehead bezel? At least give actual reasons instead of “the notch is a joke”.
The ears allow status info to be moved off the usable screen space. Something the status bar currently takes up in all other smartphones.
To me that’s better. I’d rather not have status info always forced to take up screen space that could otherwise be used by whatever app.
I can't believe you've said that. Because sensors.
Look surely you must agree that phones are going to have sensors on the front, at the very least at the abosolute minimum there's gotta be a camera. But seeing as 3D infra red sensing and illumination and the rest are the major reason for the existence of the X, they have to be accommodated. This much surely is beyond dispute.
So the question then is do they accomodate this in a continuous strip along the top, or do they allow the possibility of the screen to extend into this area to be used by the system or by the apps or for future ideas.
OK I get it that some people would rather it just be blacked out with status info only, but Apple have chosen not to and I believe it's the right choice you might believe otherwise, however whichever way you cut it, the notch is in fact not a notch, it is all the sensors.
So seeing as the sensors HAVE to be there, you do not lose any screen, unless you say to me 'without any camera or other sensors it could be all screen, and that is true and it's also very stupid.
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Aesthetically it will be better to have a full size rectangular screen instead one with a piece missing.
And again when we use the phone we don't always need or even see the status with the carrier signal and battery on the other side.
Just lighting/turning on the screen you see a nice OLED screen that's cut up on the top with the ugly ears between the sensors and ear speaker.
And again when we use the phone we don't always need or even see the status with the carrier signal and battery on the other side.
Just lighting/turning on the screen you see a nice OLED screen that's cut up on the top with the ugly ears between the sensors and ear speaker.
Because then they could compare it unfavourably to all the other android devices like the Galaxy and the Xiaomi that went down this route, then they could point out how Apple is copying them and how they did it better yada yada yada.
I think what has really p155ed people off who like to complain about Apple is that Apple have genuinely come up with an original idea that is so frikken obvious once you see it but none of the other Android devices could envisage, and now if they start to copy it which they must eventually they are going to appear to be über lame. And then all the people who identify their personality with the personality of their phone will become über lame by association.
I don't really care if it has a strip on the top of the screen and would not bother me at all and most people out there.
You wouldn't have people saying oh I'm not buying this new phone because it has a small strip for the ear speaker and other sensors on top.
But many many people dislike this approach with the notch and ugly ears and it's one of the main reasons they won't purchase one.
You wouldn't have people saying oh I'm not buying this new phone because it has a small strip for the ear speaker and other sensors on top.
But many many people dislike this approach with the notch and ugly ears and it's one of the main reasons they won't purchase one.
And if they fill this missing piece with screen where are the sensors going to go?
"But many many people"
A ha, the famously weasly wordy 'many many people', how many? Compared that is to the tens of millions who like it.
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So cutting up the top of an OLED screen that other smartphones had for many years prior is so different and a revolutionary move?
So cutting up the top of an OLED screen that other smartphones had for many years prior is so different and a revolutionary move?
[doublepost=1508381714][/doublepost]Higher above the usable/viewable touchscreen.
for clarity..
are you saying the corners of the display should square/90º ?
no rounding of the display corners?
how about the outer border of the iPhone X.. do you like the roundness of those corners or should they do something different as well? (ie- the steel part encasing the sides of the phone)
do you want no bezels? or just enough bezel to meet the other requirements? or, how would you like the bezel to look/interact with the rest of the design?
just trying to get a clearer view of what you're describing as your aesthetic preference.
Here's my opinion on what doesn't look weird and is aesthetically better.
I'd preffer square even corners on the screen.
The outer border of the hardware the rounded corners are good and eye pleasing.
Having no bezel is not really important to me and most users out there.
I'd rather have some bezel to touch and hold the device from when viewing video or other things in landscape full screen mode. And to have the needed hardware there for ear speaker, front camera and various sensors.
I'd preffer square even corners on the screen.
The outer border of the hardware the rounded corners are good and eye pleasing.
Having no bezel is not really important to me and most users out there.
I'd rather have some bezel to touch and hold the device from when viewing video or other things in landscape full screen mode. And to have the needed hardware there for ear speaker, front camera and various sensors.
On your second point, right so we have screen all the way under the sensors and where to the sensors go? 'Above the screen' you chirp, but that is exactly what apple have done, that is why they phone is 19.5:9 and the Samsung is 18:9, then Apple used the space on either side of the sensors that they placed above the screen for extra screen with multiple uses.
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The notch isn’t really cutting into the screen. What we have in the “ears” is an extension of the screen that would otherwise just be a boring forehead bezel we’ve had since forever (and what most phones still have even when slimming bezels)
As you can see, the line represents the normal forehead bezel. The ears are an extension of the typical screen. Moves status info off the screen we would normally have to use.
As you can see, the line represents the normal forehead bezel. The ears are an extension of the typical screen. Moves status info off the screen we would normally have to use.