Seriously, is the iPhone X so perfect that the only thing ppl have to complain about is this 4mm notch that will obstruct absolutely nothing ?
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I do not understand the 'notch' angst at all.
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It’s macrumors. People around here would notice if Apple change 3 pixels on something, rage about it for 6 months, and deem that version of iOS is utter trash because 3 pixels were changed.
I’m not particularly fussed about the notch, it didn’t factor in my buying choice. But I don’t get the idea that loss of picture through border cropping is equal to loss of picture through a chunk taken out at the side of the display with the picture wrapping round it. To my eyes, one of the above is obviously more noticeable than the other because the picture is no longer rectangular.
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“Oh my god there’s no keypad with buttons! Just a screen! How will I type?! Everything is so different and uncomfortable!”
With that sort of reticence, I’d get the point.
But we’re not talking about a drastic departure from conventional design (rectangular screens) on the grounds of new innovation because it’s something that pushes design and usability to another level. The X’s screen is that shape because it was necessary to accommodate other aspects of the overall design in order to meet the full-front screen specification they were aiming for. Not because anybody thought it was an amazing idea to defy accepted norms because having ears jutting from the top of the display was an exceptional enhancement to design and usability.
The notch doesn’t particularly bother me and it wouldn’t have stopped me buying the phone on its own. But, having said that, I completely get why it’s proving so controversial and I don’t think much of what is said in defence of the notch makes a lot of sense.
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Fair enough, I agree with you. I think I was (incorrectly) lumping together those wanting a true bezelless screen to all also not want a notch, and was I also (not too successfully) trying to kid about it. Funny, I thought Apple really blew it by trying to replace macbook function keys with a touchbar screen; I think function keys are pretty important and it would have been interesting if Apple incorporated a touchbar screen in addition to and not in place of the function keys, for specialized additional functions. Here with the ears it seems Apple could have used them for special additional function areas like “home” or “control panel” (or user assignable) instead of additional screen area, where the missing middle area stands out in a bad way for many, more than the additional ears areas stand out in a good way.
This is my point to anyone who thinks the notch is actually cutting into display space - it is yes, but the carrier/wifi/battery info would have been there anyway.
It's worse than that because there is no 'notch', they are actually complaining that the bezel on either side of the sensors has the screen extended into it. They are actually complaining that there it too much screen.
Kinda but not really. Its just a screen between the main phone and bezel.
Just saying apple could have put the ears together in the middle and the sensors on the outside where the ears are. The the middle section could of worked like the LG
Dont care for the notch, but im going to give it a shot to see if apple and app devs can work with it.
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LOL isnt that what the 8 is? Giant forehead and chin
Just saying apple could have put the ears together in the middle and the sensors on the outside where the ears are. The the middle section could of worked like the LG
Dont care for the notch, but im going to give it a shot to see if apple and app devs can work with it.
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LOL isnt that what the 8 is? Giant forehead and chin
Oh no! Apple offered a regular iPhone with nearly same internals as it’s future flagship design moving forward.
Most phones have a forehead and chin. The iPhone X has no chin and half a forehead. No other phone has removed as much chin and forehead as the X has.
I agree with you but i phone is not like other mobile that creates problem, its more better then hundreds of mobile so try the i phone i hope this will change your mind.
Just because this is macrumors doesnt mean you have to defend everything.
We all are iphone fans, that doesnt mean i have to like everything. The notch is bad placement.
Whats a good reason they could have the sensors on the side?
The two ears placed together could easily hand notifications or something
A good reason not to, could be if the sensors were on the sides (left and right) or to one side instead of the middle, then the screen would not extend to all 4 corners. Something I’m pretty sure they wanted as part of their design choice.
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Of course they have to be there. But put them under the screen, that's where the real magic lies. Or make it a permanent forehead for goodness sakes. Instead they went for something in the middle, which was the worst possible end result. I'm watching a movie in landscape, oh that notch, hang on let me ****ing reduce the size of the video so i can see the whole thing. No thanks, that's ****. Just plain ****ing ****.
And what gobsmacks me, is that people think it's excellent. LOL. I suppose you also think the camera lense sticking out at the back is also excellent. Bet you thought the visible antenna lines was friggin awesome too. What else? Oh I know, the maps screw up from a few years ago was pretty cool too in your eyes, wasn't it?.
Seriously, if you think the "so called notch" is ideal, then i don't know what else to say to you. It's like trying to convince a pig that his pig stye is grubby, you can bang your head against the wall as much as you like, but all you will get back in return is oink oink.
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Your post is so full of ludicrous contradictions that it's difficult to know how to unravel it but here goes...
"that's where the real magic lies"
Well you're correct in calling it 'magic' because what you ask is indeed a fantasy, it is to all practical purposes currently and probably in the future completely impossible. You are asking for a screen that has to be able to show coloured pixels with all it's concomitant electronic circuitry to be completely and totally transparent such that a camera, and other infrared sensors and flood illuminator can operate as if it's not there at all. That just only happens in some magical Harry Potter world.
Or make it a permanent forehead for goodness sakes.
I love this bit, you say now there should be no ability to extend the display into this area. OK let's just say that you get what you ask for let's just say Apple did that are you saying you'd prefer, that it would be what you want them to do. OK now let's just say hypothetically they now produced a phone just like that just for you. Right so now you're watching a video on your custom phone and the maximum width you can go to is now right up to where the bezel starts right up to the bottom edge of the sensors.
OK still following... But now you say in the next paragraph...
I'm watching a movie in landscape, oh that notch, hang on let me f.a.r.k.i.n.g reduce the size of the video so i can see the whole thing. No thanks, that's ****. Just plain ****ing ****.
But on your new custom made iPhone with the permanent bezel the image size is reduced to the exact same size that it would be on the normal phone if you reduce it so that it does not fill the screen. Got that, it's the same friggen size on the normal phone as your custom phone, but on your custom phone you're happy with the size but on the normal phone you are very very exercised to the point of swearing. Are you able to appreciate the idiocy of your position.
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Good God I just hope Apple doesn't let Jony Ive focus his "gotta be smaller than last year" attention on the bezel so that eventually all phones are bezel-less and eventually screws those of us who live in the real world and who use cases since Jony's delicate jewelry phone is too...delicate to be used in the real world w/o a case. W/o a bezel, how can one use a case and still easily swipe from outside of the screen.
Here's what I think is funny.
People can hate the notch in the iPhone X. That's fine.
But look at every iPhone before it. HUGE chin and forehead. They didn't need to be that big. AT ALL.
Where was all the outrage about that?
Everyone loves Apple's iconic home button. But on either side of it... HUGE wasted space. Not even a gesture area or additional buttons. Plenty of room... but nothing.
Just dead glass!
And the forehead was the same way. There was a tiny area devoted to the earpiece, camera, and proximity sensor... but the rest was just dead empty glass. Just like the chin.
So I dunno. People can hate the notch because it cuts into the screen.
But let's remember all the wasted space that 10 years of previous iPhones had on the front... that did absolutely nothing per square inch!
People can hate the notch in the iPhone X. That's fine.
But look at every iPhone before it. HUGE chin and forehead. They didn't need to be that big. AT ALL.
Where was all the outrage about that?
Everyone loves Apple's iconic home button. But on either side of it... HUGE wasted space. Not even a gesture area or additional buttons. Plenty of room... but nothing.
Just dead glass!
And the forehead was the same way. There was a tiny area devoted to the earpiece, camera, and proximity sensor... but the rest was just dead empty glass. Just like the chin.
So I dunno. People can hate the notch because it cuts into the screen.
But let's remember all the wasted space that 10 years of previous iPhones had on the front... that did absolutely nothing per square inch!
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i wanted the iMac to have dedicated area for the dock.. outside of the screen.. and the menu bar too.. move the two top corners up so they have dedicated space (which would effectively form a iPhone X type notches up there)..
also wanted dedicated area for application icons but we sort of got this via touchbar on MBP.
but to answer your question-- yes.
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oh-- and i still want them to do this.
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what movie are you talking about watching?
there's no movie out there that i know of that will let you watch the whole thing on iPhoneX-- except the notch, and only the notch, blocks part of it..
if you zoom a movie to where a portion is being blocked by the notch, you're definitely not watching the 'whole' movie.. way more than the notched part is being cropped out elsewhere.
your comment makes sense to you but problem is, once you apply it to real world, it doesn't make any sense.. sorry.
(well, maybe it does make sense.. what movie are you talking about?)
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i think some people understand that the notched design is giving you more screen and more areas for dedicated content that would otherwise intrude into the main content area..
other people, like yourself, believe the notched design is taking screen space away..
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Kinda but not really. Its just a screen between the main phone and bezel.
Just saying apple could have put the ears together in the middle and the sensors on the outside where the ears are. The the middle section could of worked like the LG
Dont care for the notch, but im going to give it a shot to see if apple and app devs can work with it.
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LOL isnt that what the 8 is? Giant forehead and chin
Not only does that look awful but it loses the effect of the optical illusion that Apple have taken advantage of where your brain assumes that there is screen underneath the notch and see the phone as all screen. As I have explained in my 'nude bikini' post.
They can add another 14” of dead slate on any iPhone and it doesn’t interrupt the viewing area,that is all that counts!! As long as it’s not in the way, all that chin and forehead is fine!
Thing is though that the notch is not cutting into the screen because the screen proportions up to the bottom of the bezel are 18.5:9 exactly like the Galaxy (actually my calculations show 18.63:9 so slightly better) however Apple have extended the display into what would normally be hardware bezel area to put the status information there, which would normally intrude into the screen area, so they've shifted this information from the screen area up into the bezel. They've given you more usable screen below the notch by doing this.
However because it's screen and that it continues right up to the top of the phone, you are able to, if you wish, fill the screen so that the ears are a continuation of the main screen which give a nice optical illusion. It's brilliant and innovative and if you don't like it, you'll have to go to Android because all future iPhones will be like this.
Why must I adjust a brand new phone by shrinking a video because I may miss something obstructed by the notch. Why must I re-adjust a page because I zoomed in too far and has cut out a few letters or words. Why must I accommodate almost everything I do because the notch is blocking a view. This is to those who don’t UNDERSTAND viewer experience!
Slight devils advocate here but I think that when folks say they’d prefer a bezel across the top they mean making the outside casing of the phone taller to accommodate and leave the screen size where it should be.
Apple could have easily done this. They chose not to. The home button has been iconic for 10 years, the notch will be for the next 10 unless they lose sales.
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