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I was at my local apple store in orlando and yes what I find !!!!!!
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It's a Western/American cultural disfunction. Very typical actually. It starts by allowing and even encouraging young children (3rd grade or so) you mix their competitive spirit with hate, anger, fear, and dishonesty. In some individuals it just never goes away and you get what we in the west call office politics, or worse behaviors like suing anyone for anything, calling the cops on people when they should just talk it over, and it even shows its ugly head in our national foreign policies, as well as taking form in/as secret torture prisons.
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Know it's ok you had to ask ... Maybe tomorrow I will this go back to the apple store and be done with it ... but more I think about it I would love to spend it but you know as well I do that's not the right thing ??? Or maybe I being to dome and should enjoy what I find
I know what to do !!!!!!!!
it this came to me ... I will go down to the news station here in Orlando and take the manger from the apple store with me and ask them to do a short show about this ... But I will only know how much is on the card.. I think they will it's alot of money and the owner will see it
What you guys think about this
it this came to me ... I will go down to the news station here in Orlando and take the manger from the apple store with me and ask them to do a short show about this ... But I will only know how much is on the card.. I think they will it's alot of money and the owner will see it
What you guys think about this
Naw. I still think you should call the cops and report the found card, and return it to the Apple Store. Nobody will pocket the cash value if they know it's been reported. Like Abstract said, the most important thing to do is at least let the Apple Store know it's been found, so at least the card loser won't be looking in the wrong place. Do this as soon as the store opens again.
Clearly this troubles you, as it would me, but ultimately I say hand it in ASAP. It's not up to you to be the arbitrator of what's right, or the judge of who else would be a worthy recipient. "Finders Keepers" doesn't apply outside of Kindergarten.
Yeah mate I think thats the smartest thing to do, Give them both a call and see. Like it would really suck to have lost that much but I guess in a way it's been given to you.
Chances like this don't come often. I'd attempt at finding the owner, then keep it.
YoshiKing
Chances like this don't come often. I'd attempt at finding the owner, then keep it.
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We tend to see lots of people who are trolling (opening threads just looking for an argument), or are lying, hence we can be a bit too skeptical.
Personally, I think you're honest enough. I would at least leave my name and phone at the Apple store and let them try to find the owner. I'd also contact the police to protect myself - if you do that then you're less likely to be in trouble with the police if the person who bought the car claims it was stolen. The American legal system can be confusing even to people who live here and it differs from state to state. For example, in most states if you are driving a car and the police stop you they can ask who is your passenger and ask for his/her ID as well. In Mass, the police can't even talk to the passenger - the court decision says on a traffic stop te officer's only business is with the driver.
There's no requirement to show ID when making a purchase in cash until you get up to (I think) the $5000 range. You can't buy a money order over a certain amount without ID to prevent money laundering. I'd never carry more than perhaps $300 when I'm traveling and less on a day to day basis.
by far, this one of the best threads ever - my advice -
I really don't know if taking it to the police or the Apple Store is a good idea at this point --- the reason why is because people in ORLANDO can read this thread, and there's not a ton of Apple Stores in Orlando... honestly, I think you're cover is blown
if you take this card to the Orlando Police and/or Apple Store, you're going to have a lot of people following you --- no offense to anyone here on the board, but the entire WWW community can see this thread --- they know the amount on the card and the location --- not a good mix
With that said --- you are a GOOD person --- you took the card back and tried to get it to the owner --- just keep that in mind with whatever you do...
good luck!
I really don't know if taking it to the police or the Apple Store is a good idea at this point --- the reason why is because people in ORLANDO can read this thread, and there's not a ton of Apple Stores in Orlando... honestly, I think you're cover is blown
if you take this card to the Orlando Police and/or Apple Store, you're going to have a lot of people following you --- no offense to anyone here on the board, but the entire WWW community can see this thread --- they know the amount on the card and the location --- not a good mix
With that said --- you are a GOOD person --- you took the card back and tried to get it to the owner --- just keep that in mind with whatever you do...
good luck!
It's not "lucky," because the card does not belong to you.
The best course of action is not complicated:
Go to the Apple Store and ask the store manager what you should do. Tell him or her that it has $3500 on it.
You may be rewarded for your honesty.
Don't worry about it. Anyone who gets up tight about someone's English probably hasn't tried communicating in other languages. You're doing well.
good point, a lot of people have seen this thread and know that it happened in Orlando. i wouldn't really know what to do besides let Apple know that it's gone and tell the police.
Any lawyers on the boards in Florida who want to take a shot at this?
In Oklahoma, Title 21 Oklahoma Statutes Section 1702 (lost property) states:
"One who finds lost property under circumstances which gives him knowledge or means of inquiry as to the true owner, and who appropriates such property to his own use, or to the use of another person who is not entitled thereto, without having first made such effort to find the owner and restore the property to him as the circumstances render reasonable and just, is guilty of larceny."
You've told the apple store about the find. I'd also put the word on tv as you suggested, craigslist, and even fliers. Your premise for identification is sound: have them tell you roughly when and where they lost the card, how much is on it, and you'll return it to them, after you take down their contact information and have them sign a statement that they're claiming to be the rightful owner and are taking possession of it to protect yourself.
Nothing in this post may be construed as the actual giving of legal advice. You should confer with an attorney in the jurisdiction in which you are located.
In Oklahoma, Title 21 Oklahoma Statutes Section 1702 (lost property) states:
"One who finds lost property under circumstances which gives him knowledge or means of inquiry as to the true owner, and who appropriates such property to his own use, or to the use of another person who is not entitled thereto, without having first made such effort to find the owner and restore the property to him as the circumstances render reasonable and just, is guilty of larceny."
You've told the apple store about the find. I'd also put the word on tv as you suggested, craigslist, and even fliers. Your premise for identification is sound: have them tell you roughly when and where they lost the card, how much is on it, and you'll return it to them, after you take down their contact information and have them sign a statement that they're claiming to be the rightful owner and are taking possession of it to protect yourself.
Nothing in this post may be construed as the actual giving of legal advice. You should confer with an attorney in the jurisdiction in which you are located.
Why wouldn't you give it to the store clerks when you found it. I am sure someone just bought it and they can look up the ID of the gift card in the store. You know who ever lost it will go back to the store. Each card it associated with a sale just as a computer would be, they can look up who purchased the card. Either your lying or the store clerk does not know what he is talking about.
The people in the store cannot use it since it was bought there. That would be the right thing to do.
Which store did you find it at. Millenia or Florida mall?
Stop trying to get the false realization that you are trying to do the right thing. You really want to keep the card, or you would not still have it. Anyone with a conscious would have immediately handed it in to the store the minute they found it. You thought to yourself wow, i found a card, I wonder how much is on it if any? Right.
About a two months back I was in line at a ATM and someone left their card in the machine still active, I did not think to myself, how much money is on their account? No I just pulled the card from the machine, cancelled all transactions and handed the card into the bank.
Either keep it or hand it back in. Simple as that.
I applaud your intention and action, but this is a slightly different scenario. Since you presumably found a bank card, it was a simple matter for the bank to easily find the lawful owner. Had you used it (at least in my state) you would have been committing one or two possible criminal offenses, at least one of which is a felony.
This is the difference in this case is finding a bankroll in the street as opposed to finding someone's wallet stuffed with cash in addition to one or more forms of identification.
No it's no different. I went up to a ATM and the bank card was still active in the machine. I could have taken all of their money. Since it didn't belong to me I did not do that.
The gift card does not belong to him, as the money in that persons account did not belong to me. The same rules apply. It really is that simple. No confusion whatsoever.
It is also easy to find the lawful owner of a gift card. All they have to do in the store is look up the card ID and the person's bank card or credit card to buy the gift card is on that account as per the transaction ID. As I said before buying a gift card is the same if you would buy a imac, there is a transaction ID associated with the sale, regardless if it is a gift card or computer. They do this to process returns, by transacton ID. And yes you can hand in a card for a refund as with any purchase you make in the store. That is a fact my friend.
Excuse me sir,
But I'd appreciate if you read the thread before commenting and inputting your view.
The card was paid for in CASH. NOT credit card. Know what that means? They don't have any information linked to the person who put the money on the card. Whether or not they took their ID down/name or anything is another matter but by saying that these purchases are linked to credit cards clearly shows you have not read the thread. Obviously it would be linked to a credit card if they paid with a credit card. The OP went to the apple store to check and they said they paid in cash....
Your situation is completely different. If you had taken money from their ATM then that's a criminal offense. It's clearly linked to their name, easy to return, they lost nothing. With this case there is no name attached to the card and it was found on the ground.... if he tries to return it and nobody claims it of course it's going to be his. If $3500 CASH doesn't matter enough to someone to come looking for it or try to claim it, then they don't need it in my opinion.
Could even be drug money...
All I'm saying is, this is not the same situation as yours at all. Get the full facts before you start making assumptions like that.
Wrong:
To the OP: an earlier poster made a good point: by publicising this on an open forum there are loads of scammers who will be onto this. You're trying to do the right thing but I fear in doing so a lying scammer will end up with the card.
You've already taken it back to the Apple Store and they told you there's no way to confirm the original owner's ID. So if you leave it there ANYONE could come in and claim it was theirs now.
Only thing to do now: rip the card up. Or spend it yourself, or donate it to a charity. If doing so I would go to a different Apple Store just to avoid any potential scammers who may be trying to take advantage of this. Good luck!
Wow, what a great find! I echo the points of so many posts on here. With no way to 100% confirm the original ownership I think you are quite within your right to at least spend half of this find on what you want. The amount of scammers that could read this thread and try to claim the card now make it difficult to truly believe anyone who brings a claim forward. I admire your efforts but I feel they may be in vain. Get a local charity some stuff with the other half and lavish in the fact that you tried and above all seem to be a decent person with a positive concience!
Leave your phone number at the Apple store where you found it.
OR
Go to a different Apple store other than the one you found the card at and splash out. Finders keepers, losers weepers as people used to say.
Make yourself feel better, buy lots of things with it!
OR
Go to a different Apple store other than the one you found the card at and splash out. Finders keepers, losers weepers as people used to say.
Make yourself feel better, buy lots of things with it!
Morally, I agree with your point. Legally, I do not. Were you to use the card in the machine you'd be committing a criminal offense in my state were you caught. I'm assuming the OP is being honest and forthright when he says the apple store couldn't track dow the transaction being cash, else why would he put it on a public forum? In my state, you'd be guilty of larceny of stolen property and use of a computer network (the atm) to withdraw money that's not yours. Your scenario is like finding someone's checkbook and writing checks to third parties for goods and services.
Again, assuming there is no way to track down a cash transaction buying an apple gift card, ...hey, wait a minute... doesn't uncle fed make you show id's for transactions over a certain amount? I guess it would depend upon how the buying of a gift card is classified.
Anyhow, taking the OP's facts at face value, including what he claimed he was told at the Apple store, I stand by my analysis. Again, on an ethical or moral basis, I agree with you.
I say tell the Apple store manager what happened, and leave your phone number. Keep the card.
You should have done this earlier. Why are you waiting?
Other people have suggested the same thing, but you aren't listening. You just want to scream, "Oh, what should I do!? What should I do!?!" I think there have only been 3 different answers given so far: (1) Take it to police, (2) Take it to the Apple store and see what they can do, (3) Keep it.
I think you should take it to Apple, but asking for more help won't help you.
I agree. Just tell the Apple Store that you found it. Try not to specify the amount, though I think you already did that. Anyone working there could call you and fake you out with a false story.
The original purchaser might still have a receipt. You will need that. There also should be cameras of the person buying it AND an Apple copy of the receipt on the Apple cash register.
But I have a feeling that you are going to be able to keep the card.
Search Craigslist and notify the police as well. If after two months, no luck, then it's yours. Sorry about your dad and corrupt people are everywhere, not just in specific countries.
You could leave your number with the Apple store, but that may be kind of pointless, as if the person comes back in asking with their receipt, Apple will just issue a new one and void the one you found.
I would wait 30 days to see if the card is voided, and if it isn't, then I would say it's yours to spend. Since this story is out on the internet now, there really is no practical way to determine the owner of the card, except if they have the receipt. And if they have the receipt they can get it replaced. So the only thing you can do is wait a while and see if they replace it.
The police cannot do anything because there is no ID associated with the card, so there's no point in going to them. The only people who might be able to replace the card for the person is Apple. So at this point, all you can do is wait a while and see what happens. Keep it for like 30 days. That would give people on holiday a chance to get back to their country, discover it's missing, and have it replaced, if that is what happened. And then if that doesn't happen, it's yours to do with as you please.
I would wait 30 days to see if the card is voided, and if it isn't, then I would say it's yours to spend. Since this story is out on the internet now, there really is no practical way to determine the owner of the card, except if they have the receipt. And if they have the receipt they can get it replaced. So the only thing you can do is wait a while and see if they replace it.
The police cannot do anything because there is no ID associated with the card, so there's no point in going to them. The only people who might be able to replace the card for the person is Apple. So at this point, all you can do is wait a while and see what happens. Keep it for like 30 days. That would give people on holiday a chance to get back to their country, discover it's missing, and have it replaced, if that is what happened. And then if that doesn't happen, it's yours to do with as you please.