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iBook Revisions Second Quarter 2006?

I think the iBook replacement will be named 'MacBook' and will be available in one size only - 13.3" wide. As for pricing, it wil stay the same at $999/$1299 per piece. I am sure the MacBook Pro will receive an update to 1.83/2Ghz at least parallel to the MacBook's launch. Specs wise I am guessing:

999$ Model:

Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz Processor
512Mb DDR2 Memory (1.5Gb Max)
Ati X1300 64Mb Graphics Card
Superdrive Single Layer
40Gb Hard Drive @ 5400rpms (80Gb Max)
13.3" Widescreen Display 1280x860 resolution (Mirroring Disp)
Airport and Bluetooth technology

1299$ Model:

Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz Processor
512Mb DDR2 Memory (1.5Gb Max)
Ati X1300 64Mb Graphics Card
Superdrive SL
60Gb Hard Drive @ 5400rpms (100Gb Max)
13.3" Widescreen Disp 1280x860 resolution (Mirroring Disp)
Airport and Bluetooth technology
iSight and Frontrow Software with remote

Key differences between the two models wil be: MacBook Pro's will support upto 2Gb+ memory, have 128/256 Graphics (MacBook will be crippled at 64), better HD options, ScreenSpanning, better resolutions and brighter disps etc; etc;...MacBook should have the lowest and cheapest Duo, Solo isnt really a viable option and would cripple the MacBook to a point where due to the transparency in comparison between PC Laptops and Mac's, people would not buy a MacBook. BUT Apple could be cheeky and insist on a Solo 1.66Ghz just to differentiate the line. (Theyve done it with 32Mb VRAM on a 9550)

Edit: On the 30th Anniversary issue, I think I wouldnt be surprised to see a rumour emerge about a 30th Anniversary Apple being sold for $2999 dollars that revamps the 20th Anniversary model with the first tv-tuner Apple featuring Front Row, the best Intel Core Duo technlogoy and some magical design similar to the previous Anniversary All-in-one mac.





2999$

Intel Core Duo 2.13Ghz Processor
1Gb RAM
Superdrive DL
23" Screen
Radeon All-in wonder GPU with 256Mb VRAM
FrontRow 2.0 w. Tivo style technology and iSight
Surround Sound system
500Gb HD


Regards
 
~Shard~ said:
Who ever said they would? :confused: Not me... :cool:
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I think almost everyone is saying that the MacBook Pro IS a new case. :eek: There's a few exceptions of course, and you are the exceptop.:D *fingers crossed*
 
MacinDoc said:
...and would scratch like nobody's business. Can you say "lawsuit"?
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My high-gloss white eMac has a lot of scratches in the right light--caused by flipping it on its face to get at the insides without using a towel underneath. Black would scratch worse, if mistreated, and lawyers would love that. But that wouldn't stop Apple from selling a black Mac, nor me and others from wanting it :)


eVolcre said:
I think almost everyone is saying that the MacBook Pro IS a new case. :eek: There's a few exceptions of course, and you are the exceptop.:D *fingers crossed*
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Well, it's new in the sense that they didn't re-use the old case, they designed a new one with the same styling. But that's enough to make me pretty sure they're not planning on changing the styling right away.

If you think the MacBook line is about to get a 2nd case design because it's so similar to the PPC PowerBook, then you must also think that the Intel iMac is about to get a 2nd case design: it's exactly like the PPC iMac.

Don't get me wrong, new designs could be fun (even though I like the current styling--and scratch resistance--a lot). I just don't think it's something to expect, because you will be disappointed :eek:

Part of Apple's choice to keep the design is that it's... a good design! But a lot of it, I suspect, is continuity: they WANT the new machines to be familiar on the outside, for the sake of all the people who are upset about Apple choosing Core Duo on the inside. It's a jarring change (for some more than others), and keeping the same look helps ease the transition. (And having a different look for some sizes of MacBook Pro vs. for others--when all three are newly-made models--would be odd.)

But when the next big update comes later in the year with the 64-bit Intel Macs (Merom), Apple has another good opportunity to try a totally new design, if they wish. By then people will have calmed down and accepted that Core Duo isn't so bad in a Mac after all.
 
Legacy said:
40Gb Hard Drive @ 5400rpms (80Gb Max)
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Why would they do that when the current max is 100GB? They may even make the max 120GB. I agree with most of your other points though.
 
:(

Party pooper. :p

Can I at least hope for a special color? Maybe a black one?

Ok - so what else has Apple done for their 10 year anniversaries? That might give us a clue. Do they usually release something special? Someone mentioned a 20th anniversary special - I think I'm going to go and google it

eV


nagromme said:
My high-gloss white eMac has a lot of scratches in the right light--caused by flipping it on its face to get at the insides without using a towel underneath. Black would scratch worse, if mistreated, and lawyers would love that. But that wouldn't stop Apple from selling a black Mac, nor me and others from wanting it :)



Well, it's new in the sense that they didn't re-use the old case, they designed a new one with the same styling. But that's enough to make me pretty sure they're not planning on changing the styling right away.

If you think the MacBook line is about to get a 2nd case design because it's so similar to the PPC PowerBook, then you must also think that the Intel iMac is about to get a 2nd case design: it's exactly like the PPC iMac.

Don't get me wrong, new designs could be fun (even though I like the current styling--and scratch resistance--a lot). I just don't think it's something to expect, because you will be disappointed :eek: Later in the year with the 64-bit Intel Macs, perhaps. But not right now.
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epepper9 said:
Why would they do that when the current max is 100GB? They may even make the max 120GB. I agree with most of your other points though.
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To cripple the line, 'Pros' need 80+ capacity, someone after a cheap sub $1000 notebook wont, same goes for 100Gb Max on $1299 version.

Regards
 
I did some searching on the 20th annversary MAC. Heck, this thing was back in 1995 and I think the design even stands up today. There's PCs that don't look as cool as this 10 year old MAC

I do think, though, that the focus in this decade is on laptops. To that end, I HOPE, I WISH that they release some kind of a limited edition uber-mac laptopn in the 17" or bigger line. A true desktop replacement. I would have my money out the second they announce it.

http://tam.axon.net/spartintro.htm
 
The TAM, a propped-up PowerBook held together by spit and wire. Yeah, it looked good and when it came out a man in a tuxedo would deliver it and install it all but it was so fraught with problems the price halved in record time.
 
eVolcre said:
:(

Party pooper. :p

Can I at least hope for a special color? Maybe a black one?
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I think for the consumer MacBooks, you can hope for anything, including a new design :) It wouldn't surprise me to see them go aluminum just like the Pro, or to stay white just like the iBooks. But something new is possible, and I've always thought a black option was a matter of time.

The 20th Anniversary Mac (TAM) was really cool, but there was no 25th Anniversary Mac.


Chundles said:
The TAM, a propped-up PowerBook held together by spit and wire. Yeah, it looked good and when it came out a man in a tuxedo would deliver it and install it all but it was so fraught with problems the price halved in record time.
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Which brought the price down to, what, $4500? :p
 
PEOPLE!!!

Why does everyone think MacBook will replace iBook because MacBook Pro replaced PowerBook???
Everybody out there knows that iBook is Apple.
Did anybody even see that leaked pic of the iBook???
 
DevilDog said:
PEOPLE!!!

Why does everyone think MacBook will replace iBook because MacBook Pro replaced PowerBook???
Everybody out there knows that iBook is Apple.
Did anybody even see that leaked pic of the iBook???
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Everybody out there knew that Powerbook was Apple, too, and they changed that. And why add the "pro" distinction if they're not going to call the consumer version MacBook?
 
This is my official stance. I wanted a new design for a repklacement powerbook (macbook pro). I was dissapointed. If they make the ibook fast and cool i might get one. doubt it tho. give me a macbook supercharged, see below or a redesigned powerbook (macbook pro) still need to get used to that.
 
I have been thinking that the iSight built in is a trial, and the reason only one macbook came out. There are plenty of people that aren't allowed to have cameras anywhere near their businesses, so apple need to give you the option of removing that camera.
 
Legacy said:
I think the iBook replacement will be named 'MacBook' and will be available in one size only - 13.3" wide. As for pricing, it wil stay the same at $999/$1299 per piece. I am sure the MacBook Pro will receive an update to 1.83/2Ghz at least parallel to the MacBook's launch. Specs wise I am guessing:

999$ Model:

Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz Processor
512Mb DDR2 Memory (1.5Gb Max)
Ati X1300 64Mb Graphics Card
Superdrive Single Layer
40Gb Hard Drive @ 5400rpms (80Gb Max)
13.3" Widescreen Display 1280x860 resolution (Mirroring Disp)
Airport and Bluetooth technology

1299$ Model:

Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz Processor
512Mb DDR2 Memory (1.5Gb Max)
Ati X1300 64Mb Graphics Card
Superdrive SL
60Gb Hard Drive @ 5400rpms (100Gb Max)
13.3" Widescreen Disp 1280x860 resolution (Mirroring Disp)
Airport and Bluetooth technology
iSight and Frontrow Software with remote

Key differences between the two models wil be: MacBook Pro's will support upto 2Gb+ memory, have 128/256 Graphics (MacBook will be crippled at 64), better HD options, ScreenSpanning, better resolutions and brighter disps etc; etc;...MacBook should have the lowest and cheapest Duo, Solo isnt really a viable option and would cripple the MacBook to a point where due to the transparency in comparison between PC Laptops and Mac's, people would not buy a MacBook.
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exactly, Apple REALLY needs NOT to put a CORE SOLO into the iBook; that would be totally cheap...

...many other options to differentiate, possibility to upgrade the MacBook Pro to 2 / 2.16 Ghz, 3 months delay before shipping the iBooks...

anyway; i'm really in the market for a Mac Mini, and it will better have a Core Duo, or i'm going AOpen on them.

Glossy black on the iMac and iBook would sell like peanuts; but i can see the danger in the laptop option as others have pointed out.

The real offer from Apple will realize when the MacBook Pro and iMacs get the MEROM chip; then the iBook line gets the Yonah ( no Ghz restrictions on command ), and the Mini gets the Yonah ( no Ghz restrictions on command ) as well.

It should only take 9 months if Apple follows Intel release schedule; in the meantime they just need NOT TO BE CHEAP ASSES and give us Yonahs in the Mini and iBooks anyway.
 
Other computer makers aren't using dual-core chips in their bottom-end machines, so it would hardly be "cheap" of Apple to follow suit.

Nor will low-end Mac buyers mind the savings. Raising the cost of Apple's entry-level systems means reducing the availability of Macs for many people.

Core Solo makes sense in low-end Macs--and it will still be a very fast chip. (Remember that duals aren't truly twice the speed of singles.)
 
Tough to say whether Apple will rename the iBook as well. By naming the PowerBook the MacBook Pro, this almost implies there will be a "non Pro" version, i.e. the iBook. However, Apple didn't rename the Intel iMac... Also the "i" is so well known now, it is practically synonymous with Apple, and I don't know if Apple would want to get rid of that type of brand power.
 
ibooks and macbooks

Personally i think, and this is just a hopeful pondering really..

They'll have Macbook and Macbook pro and use them to be a lot like what the previous iBooks and powerbooks were.. (as peopl suspect will happen) - So apple will still have two lines of 'proper' laptops, though i suspect their designs will be more similar to each other, blurring the boundry further.

But I think maybe there's a ultra-portable in the works which they'll call the iBook.. But much smaller than anything they've done mac-wise before.. Great for school work, note taking.. Ok for DVDs, more of a competitor with those tiny portable dvd players, and ideal for downloaded itunes movies.. Smaller than 12"(!) - possibly using flash based, or otherwise tiny new hard-drive format for insane battery life. Wouldn't be great for gaming, but for a lot of things would be incredible. I imagine it like another attempt at the emate300 without such a strong educational slant and more of a media one.

I hope like hell this is the case because I'd love that device. Sorry, this is MacRumors, not "mac making it up as we go along!"... If it has a tablet too it'd be my dream portable, though I find that (even more) unlikely. :)
 
nagromme said:
Other computer makers aren't using dual-core chips in their bottom-end machines, so it would hardly be "cheap" of Apple to follow suit.

Nor will low-end Mac buyers mind the savings. Raising the cost of Apple's entry-level systems means reducing the availability of Macs for many people.

Core Solo makes sense in low-end Macs--and it will still be a very fast chip. (Remember that duals aren't truly twice the speed of singles.)
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unfortunately, i believe Apple thinks more like you than i would like to admit but hey, give average joe dual core on the iBook at low price ( with a 40$ difference in price for you ), and it could have marketing sense...

...or they could split the iBook line into low-end and hi-end...
 
Joe2000 said:
This is really horrible. I moved to Apple last year because they are really simple and NOT confusing. What's with MacBook Pro, is that not a S*** name? Almost everyone i asked said so... I think, based on the MacBook Pro, the names will be:

iBook - MacBook

PowerBook - MacBook Pro

However with the Clamshell iBook's advert as iMac to go, why not still call it an iBook other wise you'l have:

Mac Mini, iMac, MacBook, MacPro (?), MacBook Pro. Which is imo pants!

It should be (imo):

iMac, iBook, Powermac, Powerbook, Mac Mini. To tie in with
^^^^^^^
iPod

Well i think all the Mac this, Mac that makes the whole new Apple line up sould like a McDonalds menu!!! McMini, McBook, Super McBook!!! LOL!

Just Speculation! :confused:

- Joe.
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Apple needs to start moving away from the whole iName crap. It's becoming outdated and silly. Software, fine, iNameitwhatever......not hardware. iBooks look like and sound like toys. Macbook sounds more professional and more "up to date". MacBook Pro is a great name. It sells. Powerbook, no, it's too dated and too "tube socks with sandles".

They seem to be on the right track with the names, but in terms of "showing their balls"......the released machines aren't doing it. They look the same, they looked rushed.

Associating an iPod with an iBook and and iMac...etc......fine. It made customers relate the product to the brand to the maker. It serves no purpose anymore.

Ditch the iName's and ditch the "Power" name stuff. Make customers think and relate the new transition with a new period in the Apple world.
 
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