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Just out of curiosity : what issues are you people having with iCloud Drive ?
The few times I used it ( I'm a long time Dropbox user, and rely mostly on it ) everything was smooth, I haven't noticed anything bad.

If you are a dropbox user, you cannot even think about switching to icloud drive for photos. It does not function in the same way. If I delete a photo off my device, it is removed from icloud photos =/
 
If you don't like change, you're on the wrong website talking about the wrong company...

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Mobile Me, dude. Mobile Me.

It goes back even farther than that. Dot Mac (the paid service that came out of the free iTools service, and preceded Mobile Me) was an absolutely mess.
 
iCloud photo library is a confusing mess. Why are they beta testing software on paying customers? The option for it shouldn't even be there yet until it's fully ready to replace photo stream.

Then it would get released and every tiny bug would be heavily scrutinized. "Why wasn't there a large public beta?! A few hundred people won't find all of the bugs that thousands and thousands would find!"
 
iCloud bookmark sync = disaster

The bookmark sync between Mac and iOS is a flaming disaster. When I did a sync between Yosemite and iOS 8, it decided to pull out all my nested bookmarks on my iPad from deep within folders and toss them all out in a pile at the top level, resulting in a few hundred bookmarks in no clear order.

I thought I'd restore it from my Mac Safari bookmarks, but noooo.. iCloud decides it has to randomize that too, and makes the same mess on my Mac and ruins the folder structure and sort order.

Looking at the bug reports, I'm not the only one with this problem. I'm amazed such a serious bug made it out - tells us something about the quality control in the iCloud team.

After this exciting adventure, I disabled iCloud completely. Apple just doesn't get it.
 
You do it directly on your phone/tablet in the Google music app. Why outsource it to a computer app for added inconvenience?

That's good. It is something that can be done on iOS devices as well, but I find the job goes faster in iTunes. How do you sync the playlists across platforms?
 
Development on new features for iCloud is being held up by "deep organizational issues," according to a new report

That's just bad management. With Steve gone they need a top to toe organisational re-structure to make sure they have the appropriate project managers in place to address these issues. Jeez this is basic stuff.
 
Apple sould have completely purchased Everpix a few months ago to sort the photos in the cloud issue...
 
Forces Decisions on Users Too Early

iCloud Drive as a concept is brilliant, iCloud Photos are the wart on the concept. Apple need to think through that some photos are private and some users want them to remain so. Many users are more comfortable having a degree of control, private photos backed up manually, all other snaps up into the cloud. This degree of control is not currently possible and Apple need think this through more clearly.
In Apples defence of iCloud as a whole, I think the challenge is every release of iPhone sets new records, the iPhone Is the most popular camera in the world (Flickr data) and iPhone/iPad users trend to generate more data than competitors. This must be a massive hurdle for Apple to constantly chase their tails in providing sufficient capacity and throughput to serve the 'real-time' sync across devices.
 
100% agree

My biggest problem with the whole iCloud Photo Library is the "all or nothing" approach Apple seems to have towards it.

For example, enabling it will disable the ability to sync photos from Aperture or iPhoto to your phone. Completely.

It's as if Apple expects me to upload my entire photo collection (several hundred GB) to the cloud to be able to continue to do what I do now, which is view selected parts of my photo library on my phone.

Not. Bloody. Likely.

Photos are among the most important data I have. They are irreplaceable. A few are private and I don't want them on the Internet. Apple has also failed to tell us exactly how we are supposed to BACK UP the iCloud Photo Library. All indications point to the cloud library being authoritative. Does Apple really expect us to trust them with the ONLY authoritative copy of our photos? Are they insane?

They did not think this through. Hopefully the delays mean they ARE thinking it through now and will implement it properly. However, I'm not holding my breath and I'm keeping my options open for now.

Exactly, I want my photos to be in my control. It is even more relevant to folks who make a living with their photos to have authoritative control over their "IP"
 
My biggest problem with the whole iCloud Photo Library is the "all or nothing" approach Apple seems to have towards it.

For example, enabling it will disable the ability to sync photos from Aperture or iPhoto to your phone. Completely.

It's as if Apple expects me to upload my entire photo collection (several hundred GB) to the cloud to be able to continue to do what I do now, which is view selected parts of my photo library on my phone.

Not. Bloody. Likely.

Photos are among the most important data I have. They are irreplaceable. A few are private and I don't want them on the Internet. Apple has also failed to tell us exactly how we are supposed to BACK UP the iCloud Photo Library. All indications point to the cloud library being authoritative. Does Apple really expect us to trust them with the ONLY authoritative copy of our photos? Are they insane?

They did not think this through. Hopefully the delays mean they ARE thinking it through now and will implement it properly. However, I'm not holding my breath and I'm keeping my options open for now.

Exactly correct.

This is also an indicator that Apple has reached the point of being "too big," and that we'll see more and more analogous problems.
 
iCloud isn't bad. It works pretty well for all it does. However, the 'photos' area of Apple is a giant mess and always has been since the introduction of Photo Stream. Apple is trying to combine it's "ease of use" with such a huge issue as photos in general. There are people who have gigabytes among gigabytes of photos, and they're just supposed to trust it all in one cloud? Tough chance. iPhoto was a mess, but I'm not sure the solution was to kill it completely.

In all honesty I don't even know what the ideal solution would be.
 
Exactly, I want my photos to be in my control. It is even more relevant to folks who make a living with their photos to have authoritative control over their "IP"

I'm a big Apple fan, but the iCloud photos beta and photo stream seems to be a cluster****! I don't like how photo stream works and how the iCloud beta works!

I just want to store my photos somewhere and view them when I want to. Apples iCloud photos or photo stream is failing at this point, I'm hoping it gets figured out soon!

I'm starting to see some disappointing software, not near as polished as I've come to expect from Apple!

I believe Apple will continue to make the best products, however we will never see the S.J polish we once did! Yes, S.J made mistakes like Mobile Me, (I never had a problem) but he always took care of problem and made it great! A lot of heads should be rolling based on the software glitches of late!

Apple is still making the best products, just a few stumbles that need to be addressed!!!

Steve Jobs RIP
 
My biggest problem with the whole iCloud Photo Library is the "all or nothing" approach Apple seems to have towards it.

For example, enabling it will disable the ability to sync photos from Aperture or iPhoto to your phone. Completely.

It's as if Apple expects me to upload my entire photo collection (several hundred GB) to the cloud to be able to continue to do what I do now, which is view selected parts of my photo library on my phone.

Not. Bloody. Likely.


Wow.... users sure like this post :D

or a trigger happy user went nuts..


Apple really expects you t use iCloud drive to store everything ? You may as well add iCloud drive to the backup services already on offer like Carbonate...

Unfortunately, storage gets more affordable in the cloud, and 'encourages' us to upload 100Gig's worth, before u know it you've just blown your monthly cap..
 
P.S. I have had GIGABYTES of local video files in iTunes and they all have streamed fine to my AppleTV.

The only problem I've had with my :apple:TV is that often, after a reboot of my repository computer, I also have to restart the :apple:TV so that licensing works. All of my :apple:TV's are gen 1, so I can imagine that might be part of the issue. I have no desire to replace them because, aside from that issue, they pretty much just work.

Friends of mine have dumped theirs for various reasons, but they are trying to stream off of Windows notebooks and such, and I can imagine that not working very well. They also use WIFI to connect and I hard wired all of mine to a gigabit network. It should have plenty of headroom for the added bits. One of mine does have a streaming issue from the internet occasionally, but usually after a restart it picks right up, and it's not at all heavily used so it's not a problem. It could be better, but it works.

Friends that have dumped their :apple:TV's are surprised that I still have them, and they work just fine.

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Unfortunately, storage gets more affordable in the cloud, and 'encourages' us to upload 100Gig's worth, before u know it you've just blown your monthly cap..

More affordable, yet not.

iCloud storage goes from 20g to 200g with nothing in between. It's nice that they go month-to-month on billing, but there is a galactic sized void between those two numbers.
 
I think iCloud is actually a great service and despite it's growing pains, it has now accomplished many feats of implementing cloud features for the average Joe:

- An email account
- Contact, calendar and reminder backup/syncing
- iOS device backups
- Find My iPhone

There are other features too, and newer ones that aren't quite perfectly intuitive, but they work. Photos definitely needs some cross-functional help, as it runs across iCloud, iOS and OS X.

Now lets compare iCloud with competing services from Microsoft:

- An email account
- Contact, calendar and reminder backup/syncing
- Device backups
- Computer backups
- Find my Phone
- Sync'd application settings
- Auto photo upload to my PC
- Better security
- Easier to understand file system
 
That's good. It is something that can be done on iOS devices as well, but I find the job goes faster in iTunes. How do you sync the playlists across platforms?

It's on your Google account. Use the same account on another device and you're fine. You can also upload music to Google play music so it's available on all your devices and the computer browser.
 
I don't know man, I have never heard of purchases being transferred to another account, and, if this did happen with you, you are unique. And as far as iTunes databases, I've been using iTunes since it's debut in 2001 (wasn't it 2001?) and they have been transferred between three Macs. There are even times when I have just dragged databases over. Maybe it's because I know what I'm doing, I don't know. I'm not saying that to cut you down, but it always amazes me how some people have nothing but issues and problems and for others, it all works fine.

Regarding the transfers: I had a good selection of music and a few apps. If they were still linked to my 'old account' they wouldn't play, and yet they do. The get info for the tracks shows they were purchased prior to when the schism happened. I don't know how, but it happened.

iTunes database: Well, I admittedly do things that probably ask for it...

I *HATE* the way CDDB sometimes gives up creepy metadata for CD's I rip. I ripped a 4-disc set once, and the info from CDDB had no consistency at all from one disc to the next! I was ticked because I knew that I'd have to go back and fix it... The way the CDDB database is organized is just ridiculous, although it does save time from having to enter all of the track data manually. I bought and extended edition CD once, and noticed that when I was ripping it, it didn't have track names for the last few bonus tracks. I thought 'Really? Isn't that special.'

Obviously iTunes is reading some code or such from each disc, and then runs out to CDDB to get the metadata, but who creates the metadata in the first place? (I had a CD rip with Chinese encoded track names once. That was special)

But I go in and from time to time 'cleanup' my iTunes database, shuffling names, combining multi-disc sets so they show up better in iTunes. Correcting misspellings, removing the redundant (LIVE) notations on a ripped CD of a live album. (Um, hello, it's a live album. All the tracks are 'live', do you really need that to remind you?)

And usually when I've had issues it's during a prolonged session of fluffing the track info.

The last big rant I went on with iTunes was to get the pod casts to not show up in the 'Music' listings. Don't know if that's common or not.

But here I am ranting again about iTunes and flaky metadata... I could probably go on all day. :eek:

But, yeah, I've probably done a lot of that to myself. (I even, once, had to hack the iTunes database directly to fix a problem. That was years ago though. Many rebuilds ago...:rolleyes:)

But anyway...
 
now lets compare icloud with competing services from microsoft:

- an email account
- contact, calendar and reminder backup/syncing
- device backups
- computer backups
- find my phone
- sync'd application settings
- auto photo upload to my pc
- better security
- easier to understand file system

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It's on your Google account. Use the same account on another device and you're fine. You can also upload music to Google play music so it's available on all your devices and the computer browser.

Sounds like a decent system that may work better than iTunes match. If you move the source music around, I take it that it breaks the playlist like with iTunes.
 
i agree icloud is a mess and the whole "cloud" is disturbing...

personally (with photos) i just run my own cloud at home through a nas....i don't trust these companies anymore...
 
Being magical is impossible. The more Apple has tried to be magical and make things "just happen" the more trouble we all have. It was easier to simply drag and drop things into places where you wanted them to be.
 
In my opinion photo workflow is way to hard for the average lay user. I look at how my friends and family "manage" their data and it is usually an absolute train wreck.

While I am glad that Apple is taking a stab at resolving this I have serious concerns about the potential consequences to "normal" users; they already don't understand where their canonical data lives and it seems that trying to migrate them to a quirky cloud-based solution is just asking for disaster.

I really think that Apple is flirting with some REAL bad publicity if this transition doesn't go well. They probably shouldn't have announced it until they had something more to show and they definitely shouldn't be making some parts of it available when the remaining components are unavailable.

For me, having a photo workflow that excludes the Mac is a total non-starter; the fact that Apple chose not to make iCloud photos available through an iCloud Drive folder on the Mac leads me to believe that even the finished solution is going to be far too opaque for me to ever trust with my data.
 
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