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Funny that I read all the first page comments and not a single one questioned the article. Consider the poor state of journalism today you might think that is the first logical thing to do to article that didn't quote sources.

Good point. But the full article is subscription only.
 
This is what happens when u pour all everything into a fish bowl and "make the best products" but we fail on the back-end supporting these products, like iCloud drive

huh.... In the after life PC fanboys will be strong as ever..

I give credit where credit is due,,, Apple is persistent, that's for sure, but it seems it bites them every time.... They get up, and try again. they have trouble staying on their feet..:eek:

The comedy styling of Tim Cook.

Maybe it might have been better If Apple didn't design such great products, at least they would be able to think better outside the box they live in to some further extent..
 
Good point. But the full article is subscription only.

I know but is there any reliable source out there, that is "not" pro-Apple, that have a good track records of knowledge inside deep organisation of Apple? I find none.
So why should we give The Information a pass?
 
"Except that I won't touch Google with a 10ft pole. I use YouTube (sadly, Google bought them), and the Google News page. That's it. No way in hell I'd use their email, or their search, or their maps, or Google Drive, etc., etc. Google's mantra used to be "Don't Be Evil" Well, not anymore. **** 'em. I can't stand that company. Their entire business model is spying and collecting data on people who use their products and selling it for advertising. Their email has ****ing AD's in it because computers read your mail. No. Thank. You."

And this post was deleted.....why?
 
This mess that Apple is in is exactly why Microsoft will pull through. Nadella is an awesome CEO who shows talent and knowledge in both cloud and local platforms. He is turning Microsoft around from what Balmer screwed up.

In 3-5 years, I see Microsoft in the lead with Google and Apple trailing behind. I will gladly switch at that point and MSFT CEO would at that point, deserve every dollar earned.

Someone needs to put a fire under Tim Cook, restructure Apple, and get some consistency going. Their organizations are too silo'd and they aren't working collaboratively anymore.

If you really think Nadella actually has made sweeping changes to Microsoft, you haven't been paying much attention.
 
Sometimes Apple overcomplicates simplicity. iCloud is too many things, often too specifically constrained for one use case of simplicity to be generally useful. If that use case doesn't work for you, it becomes highly complicated and frustrating. Apple needs to make iCloud pieces simple in purpose but flexible in use, instead of purposely restricted for use.
 
Oh, I definitely understand. I just wish Apple was releasing mobile apps with the quality of Google's latest offerings.


As much money as Apple has stuffed in their mattresses, they should be pumping out first rate software in Every class. They should stop giving it away free if that would help.
 
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I know but is there any reliable source out there, that is "not" pro-Apple, that have a good track records of knowledge inside deep organisation of Apple? I find none.
So why should we give The Information a pass?

Let's see who corroborates the story. If there's any truth to it somebody will come out and say they've heard similar things.

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Someone needs to put a fire under Tim Cook, restructure Apple, and get some consistency going. Their organizations are too silo'd and they aren't working collaboratively anymore.

I thought Cook's org change making Apple even more functional was all about getting rid of silos? Maybe Eddy Cue has too much on his plate and maybe the cloud isn't his strong suit. Cook needs to bring on an executive with lots of cloud experience to run iCloud. I'm sure Eddy would have a full time job just running iTunes, AppStore, TV and Pay.
 
How many more years of continued falling apart is it going to take for action to take place to get rid of Cook and bring back the style of leadership that preceded him? I hardly recognize Apple at all anymore. It seems like nearly everything is screwed up.



Does anyone like anything that Apple has done since Jobs left? Have they made a single product that offers the same level of quality of experience they offered in 2010?


As long as they are raking record profits no one is even going to think about replacing Cook. You can't just put an ad on a job site to find a person like Jobs.
 
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What about Ping? Or the original iPod earbuds? Not many agree with me, but I would vote for iTunes Match. Horrible for me though it seems most people had a better experience.

iTunes Match is the worst service I have ever used by far. I have had nothing but issues with it. I tried it when it first launched and just a few months ago. I really thought it would have gotten better, it hasn't though : (.
 
You have to remember... APPLE is a HW company who develops SW to work on it. For some reason they can't seem to get it right which is why so many third party apps are so much better... Their mail programs on OS X and IOS for example.



I wish they would spin off the applications division. I can see the SW getting so much better if they did but then you would have people complaining about monopolies and anti-trust, etc....


Spinning off a part of the company is a solution to monopoly accusations, not the cause of them.
 
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Was iCloud Drive all that you use iCloud for?

I get that people are having problems with the Drive functionality (compared to OneDrive/DropBox/etc), but for me, in addition to iCloud Drive, iCloud also does my iOS Backups, Mail, Contacts, Calendars, Reminders, Safari bookmarks, Notes, Keychain, and Find My [Mac, iPod, iPhone].

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Well, we pay good money for the cloud drive functionality, so we expect at least the basics that the major competitors like Dropbox or Google Drive offer. What we do not expect is that other Family shares cannot back up their devices on the shared space. Or a bunch of other limitations, like exchanging documents.

So, I paid, then I cancelled (but Apple keeps your money though the end of the month, regardless).

I get virtually the same services listed above through syncing iCal, Contacts, etc., trough the compatible Google services, which not only work flawlessly and are free, but are also compatible with the rest of the world, both private and business, which uses stuff like Google Calendar.
 
Let's see who corroborates the story. If there's any truth to it somebody will come out and say they've heard similar things.



I just don't understand the article. Taken from Appleinsider
Apple's work-in-progress iCloud Photo Library still hasn't fully realized the original concept, code-named "Hyperion," that was pushed years ago by late company co-founder Steve Jobs, according to a new report.

Jobs was said to be particularly fond of the Hyperion photo syncing project, according to a new report from Jessica E. Lessin of The Information. But even the new iCloud Photo Library, which missed its deadline and remains in beta, is not yet what Jobs and others at Apple had envisioned.

Its predecessor, Photo Stream, would sync a user's most recent photos captured on their iPhone. iCloud Photo Library syncs all images and is paired with new, cheaper iCloud storage plans.

But Apple is said to have had problems in rolling out iCloud Photo Library, which people familiar with the operation say is as a result of the company's internal structure. Specifically, sources told Lessin that Apple has been hampered by not having a "centralized team working on core cloud infrastructure."

Jobs want the iCloud Photo to be like Hyperion. iCloud Photo Library is still not yet what Jobs had envisioned. Photstream synced the recent 1000 photos. iCloud Photo syncs all.

The question is: what's exactly that Hyperion's capable of that iCloud Photo is not? The article isn't clear. That leads me to believe that iCloud Photo is, or more or less, exactly the same as Hyperion since the author can't state clearly what's the difference between the two. If true, then the problem is only that iCloud Photo is in beta?
That's all?

Sounds like a big click-baited piece, not different than most other pieces about Apple nowadays.

Meh.
 
How do you organize your playlists? This is one of the reasons why I switched over to iTunes in 2007 and never looked back.

You do it directly on your phone/tablet in the Google music app. Why outsource it to a computer app for added inconvenience?
 
I Just Fixed Your Problem:

1. Enforce two-step verification for iCloud, restricting the device's access to iCloud via secured networks. Only.

2. Man up and add more capacity to your SAN. Do it better than Amazon and make it free. 120GB a year. Add 1TB glacier-type storage for $10 a year. Forever. You've got the tax-breaks to do the right thing.

3. Consider "fixing" the artificial "scarcity" of materials for large-scale SSD transformation.

4. Build machines for professional creatives. -You're distracted with toys and trivial pursuits that will eventually drown your company in a sugary mess.

5. You're welcome.

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Development on new features for iCloud is being held up by "deep organizational issues," according to a new report from The Information, which suggests organizational problems are complicating iCloud products and holding up releases. Much of The Information's report requires a subscription to access, but the article's introduction gives a hint at what's going wrong at Apple.

With iOS 8, Apple introduced some major overhauls to iCloud, including iCloud Drive, which allows users to see all of their files in a dedicated folder on the Mac, similar to Dropbox, and iCloud Photo Library, an ambitious project that lets users upload all of their photos to iCloud.

It seems these features may not be as fully fleshed out as Apple would like, especially when it comes to iCloud Photo Library. iCloud Photo Library wasn't released to the public until iOS 8.1, and it remains in a beta testing phase, with speculation suggesting that iCloud's negative public image due to hacked celebrity accounts and photo leaks may have led to its delay.According to The Information, Apple's "photo vision" has yet to be "fully realized," with internal problems like the lack of a centralized iCloud team leading to iCloud Photo Library's delayed beta release and the lack of the Photos for Mac app, which isn't expected to be completed until 2015.

Photos for Mac, which will integrate with iCloud Photo Library for a complete photo editing and management system, is said to be taking on elements of both iPhoto and Aperture, two apps that Apple has opted to discontinue in favor of the Photos for Mac app. Launching iCloud Photo Library without a companion Mac app leaves a major piece of the iCloud puzzle missing, as users are not able to edit iCloud Photo Library photos natively on their laptops and desktop computers.

While iCloud Photo Library will remain incomplete for some months yet, Apple has been adding features to the iCloud Photos web app as a stopgap measure. Just last week, the company added a much-needed upload feature to its iCloud.com website, allowing users to add photos to iCloud Photo Library outside of their iOS devices for the first time.

iCloud Photo Library is not the first Apple service that's been delayed by organizational issues within the company. iOS in the Car, which later became CarPlay, saw development issues ahead of its official launch as it did not fit neatly into an existing hardware or software category. Internal issues have also been said to be affecting the development of the Maps app and the introduction of new features, like transit directions, due to poor planning, project management issues, and an ongoing loss of developers.

Article Link: iCloud Development Held Up By 'Deep Organizational Issues' at Apple
 
Idisk and .mac was the best

Sorry but features .MAC offered were perfectly fine. Sharing files was easy and all worked.

then .me came and it started to go to hell.

They remove features and add them with huge glory to .Icloud
and yet it just doesn't work.
Sharing files via airdrop is a joke. It just doesn't work, but what do we want if it is for FREEEEE.

I think :apple: has a problem.....
 
1. Enforce two-step verification for iCloud, restricting the device's access to iCloud via secured networks. Only.

2. Man up and add more capacity to your SAN. Do it better than Amazon and make it free. 120GB a year. Add 1TB glacier-type storage for $10 a year. Forever. You've got the tax-breaks to do the right thing.

3. Consider "fixing" the artificial "scarcity" of materials for large-scale SSD transformation.

4. Build machines for professional creatives. -You're distracted with toys and trivial pursuits that will eventually drown your company in a sugary mess.

5. You're welcome.

Hey Bro, you know what? I think you're just the man to replace Tim Cook. Contact the Board of Directors and send them your resume posthaste.
 
Apple is great at building hardware and software that runs on it. But it has long struggled to build services reliant on software that runs remotely rather than on devices. While company executives say they are making progress, interviews with nearly a dozen current and former Apple employees paint a different picture.

You can say that again. Cough-iMessage-cough.
 
I saw the hoopla in the video presentations from Apple, the carefully choreographed demos, the delight of the audience, and I felt, temporarily, the feeling that Apple were creating something great with iCloud. But then after I'd upgraded to Yosemite and iOS 8, I placed some simple text notes inside folders in my iCloud drive folder. I waited a few hours, looked on my other Mac, and only some had synced. Now, weeks later, they still haven't synced. I tried again with the same result.

I simply cannot understand how Apple, with all its resources, can offer this with so much excitement to the public, when it doesn't work even for a few text files. How on earth would I trust my precious photos with it?

I struggle to understand just how so much can be wrong with such a big company.

Heresy alert: I sometimes think that mega financial success has been bad for Apple. They should concentrate on fewer things and do them well.
 
As long as they are raking record profits no one is even going to think about replacing Cook. You can't just put an ad on a job site to find a person like Jobs.

You can only coast on past glory for so long.

Within 3 years we've arrived at a lineup of the same products as in 2010 just some of them thinner and with faster processors just like everyone else. They've butchered all their software -- looks like Pokemon on glaring white background and much less intuitive to use, as opposed to better, which was how Apple used to do things. Company is being run by bunch of hollywood celebrities. Products used to exude class and understated design excellence -- now it's bunch of gold-plated, pink-anodized, Paris Hilton ridiculousness.

Cook is cashing in on what Jobs created. You can only cash in once.
 
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Wow.. I'm amazed at all the problems people here seem to be having with iCloud.

Maybe I'm in the minority then, but I've never had any significant issues ( and I was there during the MobileMe era ). The synching works pretty flawlessly between my 2 macs+iPad+iPhone , albeit a bit slow at times. Mail, Calendar, iOS apps, etc... No issues.

I never use the iCloud Photo synching, so I don't know much about it.

iCloud Drive also works fine , and contrary to what other people have said, yes, you can see the files synching , it doesn't show it in the menu bar like Dropbox, but inside the iCloud Folder itself.

The only real big complaint I would have is that it's slow, compared to Dropbox of wich Im' a heavy user. Almost twice slower. MobileMe was even worse, it was the slowest cloud service I've ever used. But it actually worked fine too.

On another note, I'm not sure if it really makes sense to compare Dropbox and iCloud Drive. Because I think Apple have simply giving up on creating a real cloud service that competes with Dropbox and the like.
Did you know that Steve Jobs actually tried to buy Dropbox ? He offered them a lot of money, saying that he liked their service and didn't want to start from scratch again to offer a similar one to Apple users ( there's an interview with the DB guys somewhere on the net )

The Dropbox guys refused to sell ( we don't know why ), and Apple was pretty much forced to create iCloud from the ashes of MobileMe. And maybe they thought, "Screw it, It's not worth it to try and make something as complete as Dropbox, we'll just make a simple functionnal service that delivers the basics of synching the users data between devices, and that's it"

Bottom line, I don't think Apple is really trying to compete with Dropbox.
Just like they're not trying to replace Microsoft Office with iWork. iWork is to Office what GarageBand is to LogicPro, or iPhoto to Photoshop. It's just a simpler alternative for "the rest of us", people who are not power users and don't need all the power and complexity of the higher alternatives.
 
I've said it before: Just take a "snow leopard" year in software. Next iOS, OS X version: no flashy new stuff just make it work again. Same goes for iCloud.

Please
 
I'm all for change. Just not change that involves being forced to put all my data on the Internet to continue doing what I'm already doing.

Well, I might be OK with it, if Apple takes over my monthly ISP payments.

But seriously: Apple needs to go into their usability labs and *force* their developers work for 3 months on an old DSL connection.

The facts of the matter are that not all of their customer base even has access to high performance bandwidth ... let alone at reasonable prices ... to tolerate the cloud inconnectivity that's being proposed.

-hh
 
What's up with apple and its ability to roll out cloud based products. Ever since iTools (iDrive specifically) they've had problems with cloud based products/services.
 
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