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The first real smart phone. It set the standard for smart phones today. How's your stylus?

Ill be the first to flame this.

The standard today. Is over 100 different styles of smart phones. I used a smart phone without a touch screen before and it was great. I miss it still. If anything RIM is the ones who set the standard along with Palm those where the original smart phones. They are the ones who got it started. You don't need a touch screen to make a great smart phone. Blackberry Bold is still one of the best smart phones on the market. I look and the fill of the bold makes it also the most professional looking smartphone.
 
The first real smart phone. It set the standard for smart phones today. How's your stylus?
The only people that _think_ it's the first real smart phone, are some Apple users, and those without any experience prior to the iPhone.

I've been a hardcore cellular & smartphone user before the category of "smartphone" existed. I've had loads of phones before and up to the present time. I've owned every model of iPhone. It was definitely not the first. That's not to say it's not a good phone, just not the first.

Where it did set a high standard is the touchscreen quality and responsiveness. The brilliance of getting people addicted to apps, and getting them locked down into iTunes. A true money maker.

If five years earlier one would have said there'd be a phone that made fart sounds from an app, people would have laughed. How classy is that ?
Perfect for entertaining the kids. Fisher Price of phones.
 
Four years ago, Apple had just announced the iPhone and it wouldn't ship for another few months. Since, then they've sold over 100,000,000 of these things. Who woulda thought?

IDC have no clue about what they're talking about.
 
LOL. Ignorant.

I used a smartphone back in 2005 very well without requiring a stylus.

Hows your white iPhone - still vapourware? ;-)

With a 1" screen?

Give me a break

The so called smart phones prior to the iphone were called smart phones. But the name was applied prematurely.

Any phone with a stylus can suffer from a lost stylus. That's not smart.
 
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Stella said:
LOL. Ignorant.

I used a smartphone back in 2005 very well without requiring a stylus.

Hows your white iPhone - still vapourware? ;-)

With a 1" screen?

Give me a break

The so called smart phones prior to the iphone were called smart phones. But the name was applied prematurely.

Any phone with a stylus can suffer from a lost stylus. That's not smart.

The P800/P900 didn't require a stylus (yes they did include one but it wasn't essential for operation) and had a large 2.9 inch screen and had 3rd party application support from day one. This was launched back in 2003.

I don't know how old you are now or when you first got a Smartphone, but they have existed for years.

I cant see where you are getting this "original smartphone" stuff from but I've been using them since my early 20's. Perhaps your own limited experience doesn't reflect on others?
 
...and the Zune will come back and overtake the iPod, too!

Microsoft does have a far superior development platform with Visual Studio, though. I'm serious about that.
 
With a 1" screen?

Give me a break

The so called smart phones prior to the iphone were called smart phones. But the name was applied prematurely.

Any phone with a stylus can suffer from a lost stylus. That's not smart.

PAUSE.

Do you think a smart phone is only something with a good touchscreen. Yes the iphone changed how things where done with smart phones. But did it add new functionality needed for something to be a smart phone no. A smart phone is a phone with a PDA built in. That means it needed to have calender, planner, Email access and Web browser. Blackberry and palm both had this. A touch screen is not even nessary for something to be a smart phone. But to you it most likely means "App Support"
 
Microsoft should work on perfecting windows before starting a mobile OS

Windows 7 is a very good OS. Been using it since it's release and it's been nothing but responsive and stable. Easily MS's best yet. It does need some minor updates, like the removal of the tray, but the new taskbar is actually an improvement on the dock, IMO. Not in style, but function.
 
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The P800/P900 didn't require a stylus (yes they did include one but it wasn't essential for operation) and had a large 2.9 inch screen and had 3rd party application support from day one. This was launched back in 2003.

I don't know how old you are now or when you first got a Smartphone, but they have existed for years.

I cant see where you are getting this "original smartphone" stuff from but I've been using them since my early 20's. Perhaps your own limited experience doesn't reflect on others?

I used to have one of these, circa 2005
 

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OK, just let us wait and see what happened in 2015, but I believe Apple and Google will not disappoint us.:D
 
When the iPhone first came out it was a revelation, why is it so popular ? The marketing was second to none, when I first bought mine people would say, what's that, I'd show them and then they would get one, and from there a domino effect happens. I work in the film and tv industry, out of 30 people on set, with in 12 months 80% of the crew had iPhones, and all they do is upgrade to the next iPhone, I don't know of anyone that has switched to another phone, yes it has it's faults but it does what the majority of the people want , and very well, all the other just seem to copy, and these people have never heard of macrumors, and don't consider themselves fanboy! With the exception of one, me :apple:
 
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In both cases, Apple is still 3rd in Market share.
 
I commented on this story on Slashdot as well, and I can only say that I think IDC puts far too much confidence in Nokia - a company with some quite dire problems today. I also think that WP7 competes more with the Android demography than iPhone's. And Android feels like a much more solid platform today than WP7 which has barely got a single functional downloadable upgrade out the door yet, due to the recent NoDo fiasco...

To summarize I have no idea why IDC feels this strongly for the struggling WP7 platform.
 
If anything will move me to another phone from my iPhone its my iPad :eek::p

The iPad runs just about all iOS apps better, and stops me
being "locked in" to apple for a phone (as I still have all apps on ipad),
its also much less cramped obviously due to its size.

Since getting my iPad, I rarely use my iphone as anything other than a phone...

As for smartphones, I had several before the iphone - in fact I still keep my 10 year old nokia 9110 around for faxes...
 
Why would Apple lose market share, when they can't make those things fast enough? I'll come back to this study in 2015 to laugh at it.
 
Why would Apple lose market share, when they can't make those things fast enough? I'll come back to this study in 2015 to laugh at it.

It's possible if the market keeps growing at a rapid rate and more and more cheap smartphones become available.

Over the last year iPhone sales have seen a massive increase but they still have more or less the same share of the market as they had at the end of 2009.
 
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