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It took Apple three years to stop selling flagship MacBook Pros with a flawed keyboard and cooling system, four years to update the Mac mini, and six years to update the Mac Pro to a model with a price tag that is rudely shoving a lot of long-time tower Mac users out the door. On top of that, Apple discontinued the AirPort line (which many members of this forum have praised, myself included), has yet to introduce an Apple-branded and consumer-focused 5K display, and ruined MacOS Server. So of course people, long-time Mac users especially, are going to complain about the direction of the company. It has changed, with consequences that are not hypothetical, not made-up - they are real.

The good news is there are many other manufacturers you can reward with your currency to purchase computers and devices that meet your needs. Just takes a wee bit of courage to find happiness.
 
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If I go to Apple's landing page, I miss all the moaning and whining on MR about cheese on a computer. One would be forgiven for thinking iFixit was clubbing baby seals. I mean we got somebody claiming a computer was disrespected and another trotting out the feed the poor tired trope. People are unnecessarily up in their feels.

Agreed. And they clearly state in the video that they were basically just doing an unboxin, and that the actual tear down will be later. I don't understand all of the hurt feels over this.
 
On top of that, Apple discontinued the AirPort line (which many members of this forum have praised, myself included)
People are still on this?

The only reason they introduced the AirPort line to begin with was because Wi-Fi was a new product, the market was very sparse, and routers that were on the market were notoriously user unfriendly. They needed a router to sell with their brand new laptops that had Wi-Fi built-in (no one else had that!), so they built their own.

Fast forward to the late '10s. Wi-Fi is ubiquitous, the market is saturated, competition is fierce (the $200 cutting-edge beast becomes the $60 bargain in 10 months), Apple offers nothing to differentiate their line, and most people use the router that their ISP gave to them anyway.

It was not a market segment worth investing in, so they cut their product line.
 
The good news is there are many other manufacturers you can reward with your currency to purchase computers and devices that meet your needs. Just takes a wee bit of courage to find happiness.
Switching from MacOS to Windows is easier said than done, especially as MacOS remains better for creative work and software development as it has been for years. Plenty of long-time Mac users still aren't willing to switch. That doesn't mean they can't be upset with the company's direction, though.
 
Switching from MacOS to Windows is easier said than done, especially as MacOS remains better for creative work and software development as it has been for years. Plenty of long-time Mac users still aren't willing to switch. That doesn't mean they can't be upset with the company's direction, though.
And this has what to do with an independent site rubbing cheese on a Mac?
 
Fast forward to the late '10s. Wi-Fi is ubiquitous, the market is saturated, competition is fierce (the $200 cutting-edge beast becomes the $60 bargain in 10 months), Apple offers nothing to differentiate their line, and most people use the router that their ISP gave to them anyway.

It was not a market segment worth investing in, so they cut their product line.
The consumer Wi-Fi market was well well established when Apple launched their 802.11ac router. And it was by far the BEST ac router on the market at that time. Way more stable than anything else out there.

I ended up going with UniFi because I already had an Edgerouter and all I needed were wireless Access Points.
 
Switching from MacOS to Windows is easier said than done, especially as MacOS remains better for creative work and software development as it has been for years. Plenty of long-time Mac users still aren't willing to switch. That doesn't mean they can't be upset with the company's direction, though.
I literally cannot work in Windows. I use Windows purely for gaming and nothing else. Everything else I do on a Mac.
 
The consumer Wi-Fi market was well well established when Apple launched their 802.11ac router. And it was by far the BEST ac router on the market at that time. Way more stable than anything else out there.

I ended up going with UniFi because I already had an Edgerouter and all I needed were wireless Access Points.

Same here. I also have a UniFi POE switch. Edgerouter, switch, and APs are all rock solid and work very well. Should have switched to Ubiquiti long ago.
 
That has to be the worst video ever. Their voices were annoying. Lighting was horrible. It was painful watching her try to re seat the RAM. and the cheese.....omfg. If you ladies want to be taken seriously, take yourselves more seriously. I thought IFixIt was a pro operation. I couldn't even watch it at 1.5x playback speed.
 
I'm assuming the quality of the video was intentionally bad?
That’s all we can assume I think. Or maybe some satire that I’m missing. Or possibly it’s a parody? If so, I don’t get the ref ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

PS I actually like the term cheese grater and I’ve used it for years for the older Mac Pros. The 2019 looks even more like a real cheese grater, so I don’t see any reason to stop referrals to it in that way. To me it’s simply descriptive, and not disparaging in the least :)

And especially if I’m replying to someone who thinks using the term is an insult, I’m sure to echo it back to disarm the passive (or active) aggressiveness of the intended insult.
 
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That has to be the worst video ever. Their voices were annoying. Lighting was horrible. It was painful watching her try to re seat the RAM. and the cheese.....omfg. If you ladies want to be taken seriously, take yourselves more seriously. I thought IFixIt was a pro operation. I couldn't even watch it at 1.5x playback speed.
A pro operation can’t have fun? Seriously? :rolleyes:
 
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Buying a $6000.00 USB computer to use as a cheese grater is awkward. Many developers would like to have the economic resources to buy and work on it.
 
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It took Apple three years to stop selling flagship MacBook Pros with a flawed keyboard and cooling system, four years to update the Mac mini, and six years to update the Mac Pro to a model with a price tag that is rudely shoving a lot of long-time tower Mac users out the door. On top of that, Apple discontinued the AirPort line (which many members of this forum have praised, myself included), has yet to introduce an Apple-branded and consumer-focused 5K display, and ruined MacOS Server. So of course people, long-time Mac users especially, are going to complain about the direction of the company. It has changed, with consequences that are not hypothetical, not made-up - they are real.
The thing is that Apple hasn't changed. They have always been interested in making technology more personal for the end user and the moment it becomes possible / feasible to do so, they will. This includes excising ports, bezels and buttons at the earliest opportunity. And when Apple decides that something no longer deserves their time and attention, it will just disappear one fine day.

Today, that's the Mac, as Apple focuses an increasing amount of attention on wearables. They gave you your ideal vision of the Mac back then when it so happened to be aligned with their design ethos and principles. They are not giving you that exact same Mac today because technology has now made it possible to make computers thinner and lighter, with fewer ports and bezels and of course Apple is always going to continue to move in that direction. It's no surprise that Apple has been so slow to update their desktop line because they are (now) literally the furthest away from Apple's vision of what a computer should be.

Someday, this same fate will befall the iPhone (and maybe even the iPad) when these products' lifespans have run their course and Apple decides they no longer meet their definitions of personal computing, and that's just the natural order of things at Apple.

Apple became as successful as they did because they focused on giving users what they didn't know they wanted, not what they thought they wanted. Their job is literally to say no to what people say they want. People here say that Apple went downhill when they stopped focusing on Macs. But this is a risk I believe Apple needs to keep taking because the moment Apple stops and decides to just listen to their customers and give users what they claim they want (such as walking back on the keyboard decision on the 16" MBP, because ironically enough, Apple seemed to have actually fixed the keyboard problem with the 2019 MBPs), they lose the chance to come up with the next big thing.

Basically, though I am happy that some long-time Mac users will have finally gotten the computing devices they want after all this time (in the form of the 16" MBP and the Mac Pro), I still don't like it. I stress again that Apple's long-term success is predicated on them making technology more personal for the end user, and anything which distracts them from this goal becomes a burden or even a burden. Apple has done the exact opposite here in order to appease the small group of Mac users who value familiarity and don't want the brand of innovation that Apple is selling.

I don't like it, but it may be a necessary evil to avoid losing the ~1% of users responsible for creating much of the content that is consumed by the other 99% of users. I just hope that Apple doesn't capitulate any more than it absolutely has to.
 
A pro operation can’t have fun? Seriously? :rolleyes:
They should have all the fun they want, as long as it jacks up the hits. But pro operations don’t typically produce videos with missing audio and bush league lighting.

I’m convinced the poor production values were intentional, or maybe they uploaded the wrong file; it happens. I really don’t see any other way to read this, unless maybe there were just so many employees on vacation that this was the best they could do. Who knows? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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They should have all the fun they want, as long as it jacks up the hits. But pro operations don’t typically produce videos with missing audio and bush league lighting.

I’m convinced the poor production values were intentional, or maybe they uploaded the wrong file; it happens. I really don’t see any other way to read this, unless maybe there were just so many employees on vacation that this was the best they could do. Who knows? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It was just a dump of a live stream, no post-production editing. The value was in the spontaneity at the time.

The funniest part has been the MacRumors forum commentary.
 
It was just a dump of a live stream, no post-production editing. The value was in the spontaneity at the time.

The funniest part has been the MacRumors forum commentary.
Poor lighting and dead mics are usually issues that are fixed prior to beginning a live stream, but ok. With those production values, though, a certain amount of mocking and ridicule shouldn’t be surprising, this being the internet and all :)
 
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Kinda getting tired of how people on the web always trash Apple and disrespect their products just because it's Apple, like what iFixit did with that cheese. Very stupid video, very rude and frankly it's unprofessional of them.
The Mac Pro has a very well designed cooling system. It's one thing to call it cheese grater which is also stupid, but to actually great cheese on Apple's $6000+ workstation is disgusting. Shame on you iFixit. I thought you were better than that. How embarrassing of them.
 
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