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All iPads I'm angry with Apple, and Disappointed (Safari reloading tabs)

petvas said:
I am giving them time, I am just saying that people shouldn't expect much from mobile devices. For real work, real computers are needed. For fun iOS devices are great.
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Sure, my MBP is my working device, but not the only one
At every meeting I bring my iPad with me, nd it's fantastic for taking note, sending and checking mails, browse the net and duties like those.
In my organization we also use iPads for planning .... It is not only suitable for fun.
But when you need real computational power, a real computer with a larger screen it's waaaay better.
 
oVerboost said:
My space grey iPad mini (non retina) hasn't crashed, or suffered any memory issues either and that only has 512MB. That's running 7.0.4.
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That is interesting - and the same as my experience: my iPad Air has Safari crash nearly every day while my first gen mini has not and both are running 7.0.4
 
runormal said:
That is interesting - and the same as my experience: my iPad Air has Safari crash nearly every day while my first gen mini has not and both are running 7.0.4
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Right, any 64-bit iOS devices will experience the instability issues in 7.0.x. The 7.1 betas have already made a major impact on that. We just need Apple to not rush and take its time to release 7.1 properly, unlike the initial 7.x release for iPads.
 
ZBoater said:
You assume Apple isn't spending the money somewhere else? Not to mention make a profit. This has less to do with RAM costs and more on design philosophy and strategy. It's more than the $5.
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What design philosophy absolutely doesn't allow cutting 5$ into the profit margin to create a much better device?

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Max(IT) said:
Samsung is trying hard to catch up with Apple, so they are working on a less profit.

The issue you are speaking about is limited on the 64-bit implementation of iOS 7, since I'm not seeing that happen on an iPad 4 but only on the Air.
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I never mentioned Samsung at all.

The issue I'm speaking about was present in every iOS device I have ever used. The one single time I did not have this issue was on a Jailbroken first generation iPad with a memory swap hack installed.
 
Max(IT) said:
I'm using safari every single day, usually with 2 tabs open (sometimes more), and I'm not experiencing this king of issue ....

Maybe your is an hardware problem.
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I often have as many as ten tabs open and my only major issue is that TWC Internet sucks. Rare to few app crashes for Safari.
 
Max(IT) said:
Who says the ram is already on its limits ?
iOS 7 runs on 512 mb with almost all features enabled, on the iPhone 4S and iPad 2.
What we are seeing is not so well optimized 64-bit implementation, and I think we are going to see improvements on the next releases.
Mobile operative systems don't need a lot of ram to run. From what I understood Android KitKat also runs on 512 Mb smartphones.
iOS 7 64-bit is just the first release of something new, give them time to improve it.
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If I wanted to be a beta tester for an unfinished tablet OS, I would've got a Windows tablet. Oh wait, I did, it's 64 bit, and it doesn't have any ram issues.
 
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Ezhik said:
If I wanted to be a beta tester for an unfinished tablet OS, I would've got a Windows tablet. Oh wait, I did, it's 64 bit, and it doesn't have any ram issues.
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Ok, congrats. We're all happy for you!

We know that Apple rushed iOS 7 and we're just going to wait for the 7.1 release which will improve this. It's not a RAM issue, it's simply a software optimization issue.

It is not like MS' surface don't have issues of their own. All tablets have issues, it's what companies do afterward that counts. MS improved Surface a lot over time since their initial release but there's still work left to do, just as there is in iOS.
 
Ezhik said:
If I wanted to be a beta tester for an unfinished tablet OS, I would've got a Windows tablet. Oh wait, I did, it's 64 bit, and it doesn't have any ram issues.
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You will be missed, goodbye.

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MikhailT said:
Ok, congrats. We're all happy for you!

We know that Apple rushed iOS 7 and we're just going to wait for the 7.1 release which will improve this. It's not a RAM issue, it's simply a software optimization issue.

It is not like MS' surface don't have issues of their own. All tablets have issues, it's what companies do afterward that counts. MS improved Surface a lot over time since their initial release but there's still work left to do, just as there is in iOS.
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Right.
I'm posting from my iPad Air, I don't feel like a beta tester at all.
Things coul be better, but I'm happy with the overall experience as usual.
 
Max(IT) said:
You will be missed, goodbye.
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Haha, I still have the iPad, so you will have to put up with my **** until this issue is gone.

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MikhailT said:
Ok, congrats. We're all happy for you!

We know that Apple rushed iOS 7 and we're just going to wait for the 7.1 release which will improve this. It's not a RAM issue, it's simply a software optimization issue.

It is not like MS' surface don't have issues of their own. All tablets have issues, it's what companies do afterward that counts. MS improved Surface a lot over time since their initial release but there's still work left to do, just as there is in iOS.
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Well it just makes me sad - Apple's known for quality, after all. I still think that this is a RAM issue, as I have been having this problem on pre-iOS7 32 bit devices as well.
 
Ezhik said:
Haha, I still have the iPad, so you will have to put up with my **** until this issue is gone.

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Well it just makes me sad - Apple's known for quality, after all. I still think that this is a RAM issue, as I have been having this problem on pre-iOS7 32 bit devices as well.
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There are absolutely no issue with iPad 4, as I demonstrated on another thread with screenshots of free ram.
The memory leakage is mostly limited at 64-bit iOS 7.
 
Ezhik said:
Haha, I still have the iPad, so you will have to put up with my **** until this issue is gone.

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Well it just makes me sad - Apple's known for quality, after all. I still think that this is a RAM issue, as I have been having this problem on pre-iOS7 32 bit devices as well.
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It's a memory leak issue with iOS 7 not a ram issue.
 
Ezhik said:
Well why did I have this issue with all 6 iOS devices that I ever owned?
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As I said before, jump the ship ....
I'm an Apple user of iOS devices since iPhone 3 and iPad 1 and the only device with memory issues was the very first iPad and now the Air due to some leakage in the 64-bit version.
 
Max(IT) said:
As I said before, jump the ship ....
I'm an Apple user of iOS devices since iPhone 3 and iPad 1 and the only device with memory issues was the very first iPad and now the Air due to some leakage in the 64-bit version.
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So you are just going to keep pretending that the issues I had since 2007 don't exist?
 
Just typed a few words here, switched to another tab and went back to this page, it reloads and all words are gone. :eek: :apple: is it bug or ram related? :( iPad Air @ 7.0.4
 
jonnyb098 said:
It's a memory leak issue with iOS 7 not a ram issue.
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Says everyone, in spite of the volumes of low RAM errors in logs associated with crash times of the apps.

But then again, the low RAM error logs are spewing out at an alarming rate, so I guess it could just be coincidence. :rolleyes:
 
Count Blah said:
Says everyone, in spite of the volumes of low RAM errors in logs associated with crash times of the apps.

But then again, the low RAM error logs are spewing out at an alarming rate, so I guess it could just be coincidence. :rolleyes:
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It doesn't happen on iPad 4 or iPhone 5 , so No coincidence, just 64-bit that need for a fix
 
I am on 7.0.3 and my tabs aren't reloading that much at all. I don't know if I'm just lucky or what but I'm definitely not updating to 7.0.4.

Only problems I've had with this air at all is I crashed like 3 times.
 
Count Blah said:
Says everyone, in spite of the volumes of low RAM errors in logs associated with crash times of the apps.

But then again, the low RAM error logs are spewing out at an alarming rate, so I guess it could just be coincidence. :rolleyes:
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Ok, people are taking the "low memory" crash log WAAAY to literally. Low memory simply means the app doesnt have enough memory to continue operating. Thats only going to happen with a memory leak. iOS is designed to close other apps to keep the current app running. So if an app crashes due to low memory its due to a leak. ITS SOFTWARE! NOT HARDWARE!
 
jonnyb098 said:
Ok, people are taking the "low memory" crash log WAAAY to literally. Low memory simply means the app doesnt have enough memory to continue operating. Thats only going to happen with a memory leak. iOS is designed to close other apps to keep the current app running. So if an app crashes due to low memory its due to a leak. ITS SOFTWARE! NOT HARDWARE!
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Thanks God there is still someone capable of proper thinking ... :cool:
 
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