iPhone X I'm not getting a new iPhone until the notch is gone.

[now i see it]

Just do this (Apple). Problem solved.

 

[zehoo]

I wouldn’t mind them copying Asus with the way the camera works on the zenfone 6.

 

[joeblow7777]

Just do this (Apple). Problem solved.

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Then everyone will complain, “how could they release a phone with such hideous large bezels in 2019!?”

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Then everyone will complain, “how could they release a phone with such hideous large bezels in 2019!?”

They say while they type it on their classic iPhone lol.

 

[Analog Kid]

The notch was the biggest esthetic design failure in Apples history.

 

[44267547]

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Your iMac picture is not an example of a ‘design failure’, it was the start of something of the beginning to make a transition to what it is today. That’s exactly what the Notch is, it’s a start of something that not everybody agrees with, but eventually will transform where the notch likely won’t have to be existence in the future where the hardware/components are minimalized once the technology continues to mature. A lot of products tech start out controversial where not everybody agrees with its design choice/aesthetics, but it’s fairly unique to see how it makes its transition over the years.

 

[I7guy]

Just do this (Apple). Problem solved.

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Seems like some screen real estate is lost. The phone would have to be made longer. Maybe Apple could get rid of the camera bump while they’re at it and add back the headphone jack.

 

[satchmo]

Love it or hate it, the notch is here to stay for another year or two.
Apple rarely changes designs so quickly. At best, there might be a slight reduction in size, but even that means new parts and added costs to Apple.

 

[nouveau_redneck]

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You mean you don't like the look of those?

 

[satchmo]

I'm holding onto my 8+ until its gone. The notch was the biggest esthetic design failure in Apples history.

This ranks high as well.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

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This ranks high as well.

I doubt many would agree with you there. That was a highly impressive piece of design when it came out and changed the way people viewed the MP3 player.

 

[Phil77354]

Both my wife and I purchased new iPhone XS Max phones shortly after they were first introduced (upgrading from iPhone 6S).

I don't even notice the notch in using the phone and the larger display is terrific.

I'm sure they will eventually bring out an iPhone model that eliminates the notch but it is not a consideration one way or another for either of us.

 

[russell_314]

I noticed the notch maybe within the first few days but now it's nothing. I would rather have a notch than a big oval cutout in the screen like Samsung has. It takes up more space because that thin line of screen above the cutout is just silly. They should have moved it to the top even if they wanted an oval cutout. I don't think the notch is going away till they figure a way to put the camera behind active screen space.

 

[trfc54]

From an everyday user perspective, it is true that it doesn't really affect your experience. Most people won't really "notice" it.

But, if you think in terms of design, perhaps you are a perfectionist and like things to have a certain aesthetic appeal, the notch is a poor design decision. Its only purpose was to differentiate the iPhone X at the time from other phones and make it more identifiable by the layman: "oh look, a notched phone, must be one of those expensive new shiny iPhones..."

In reality, the OnePlus 7 full screen design is the optimal choice. How often does anyone use the front facing camera anyway? Are most people using it 100 times a day? I never use it, only if I'm on a video call with someone, and so that's 1 open and close cycle.

For 99% of other uses, which mostly involve looking at the phone screen, the all screen design offers a much better aesthetic look, and just a better overall user experience.

I bet if you secretly asked all new iPhone customers if, given the choice to make their iPhone all screen would they take it or not, almost all would say yes. It's simply a superior design decision from many perspectives.

 

[russell_314]

I doubt many would agree with you there. That was a highly impressive piece of design when it came out and changed the way people viewed the MP3 player.

I miss my old iPod with buttons. I was so mad when I broke it and found out the new ones didn't have the buttons.
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From an everyday user perspective, it is true that it doesn't really affect your experience. Most people won't really "notice" it.


But, if you think in terms of design, perhaps you are a perfectionist and like things to have a certain aesthetic appeal, the notch is a poor design decision. Its only purpose was to differentiate the iPhone X at the time from other phones and make it more identifiable by the layman: "oh look, a notched phone, must be one of those expensive new shiny iPhones…"

It being a a poor design decision is your subjective opinion and your comment that its only purpose was to differentiate the iPhone X at the time from other phones is completely incorrect.

In reality, the OnePlus 7 full screen design is the optimal choice. How often does anyone use the front facing camera anyway? Are most people using it 100 times a day? I never use it, only if I'm on a video call with someone, and so that's 1 open and close cycle.


For 99% of other uses, which mostly involve looking at the phone screen, the all screen design offers a much better aesthetic look, and just a better overall user experience.


I bet if you secretly asked all new iPhone customers if, given the choice to make their iPhone all screen would they take it or not, almost all would say yes. It's simply a superior design decision from many perspectives.

Actually quite a few people use the front facing camera. They even have a name for pictures taken with it. It’s called a “selfie”, perhaps you’ve heard this term.

 

[wardie]

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This ranks high as well.

Well... at least battery life has improved over the years, compared to an iPod with spinner inside. 13s into the Chillies trackand the battery is toast...

 

[tranceking26]

I don't like the notch design but my main reason for not upgrading is my 6s is still amazing.

 

[bambooshots]

Just do this (Apple). Problem solved.

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Looks even worse.

 

[satchmo]

I doubt many would agree with you there. That was a highly impressive piece of design when it came out and changed the way people viewed the MP3 player.

The iPod was and is.
Just not the 3rd gen iPod. Speaking in terms of aesthetics, especially when compared to the original and others that came after it.

 

[torana355]

Maybe your using it wrong?

No delay on my Xs Max or iPad Pro.

Or perhaps its not a perfect as some make it out to be. Ill take a Good FPS anyway.

 

[Analog Kid]

Your iMac picture is not an example of a ‘design failure’, it was the start of something of the beginning to make a transition to what it is today. That’s exactly what the Notch is, it’s a start of something that not everybody agrees with, but eventually will transform where the notch likely won’t have to be existence in the future where the hardware/components are minimalized once the technology continues to mature. A lot of products tech start out controversial where not everybody agrees with its design choice/aesthetics, but it’s fairly unique to see how it makes its transition over the years.

The quote wasn't about functional design failures, but about aesthetic design failures. Aesthetics are a personal thing, surely, but I have to think most people see those two as aesthetic design failures. Bondi Blue was the start of a transition-- (Relentless) Flower Power didn't transition to anything-- they'd run out of color ideas and saw hippies as an underexploited market?

Apple has a long history-- if you're going to rank failures, there's quite a few candidates to sort through...

 

[44267547]

Love it or hate it, the notch is here to stay for another year or two.
Apple rarely changes designs so quickly. At best, there might be a slight reduction in size, but even that means new parts and added costs to Apple.

Partly regarding the notch, the technology isn’t mature enough where it’s allowed the notch to reduce or be eliminated altogether. I’m sure Apple is well ahead of figuring how to consolidate the proprietary hardware for Face ID the best they can, but being an iPhone user with the Max, I don’t even notice the notch at all.

 

[booksbooks]

From an everyday user perspective, it is true that it doesn't really affect your experience. Most people won't really "notice" it.

But, if you think in terms of design, perhaps you are a perfectionist and like things to have a certain aesthetic appeal, the notch is a poor design decision. Its only purpose was to differentiate the iPhone X at the time from other phones and make it more identifiable by the layman: "oh look, a notched phone, must be one of those expensive new shiny iPhones..."

In reality, the OnePlus 7 full screen design is the optimal choice. How often does anyone use the front facing camera anyway? Are most people using it 100 times a day? I never use it, only if I'm on a video call with someone, and so that's 1 open and close cycle.

For 99% of other uses, which mostly involve looking at the phone screen, the all screen design offers a much better aesthetic look, and just a better overall user experience.

I bet if you secretly asked all new iPhone customers if, given the choice to make their iPhone all screen would they take it or not, almost all would say yes. It's simply a superior design decision from many perspectives.

• The notch creates asymmetry both physically and on the screen. One consequence of this is that there actually becomes a real top and bottom to the device, both of which are different. Try turning the iPhone upside down and see what happens: applications are blocked from rotating 180 degrees and will only go from top notch to landscape and back again. Or, try using the phone in landscape mode say, surfing the Web. On the left or right (depending how you hold it), the notch sticks out and covers content on the screen, whereas the other side is clean.
• The notch disrupts the actual content on the screen. Try zooming into a photo, for instance. The notch covers that part of a photo. Or open up Maps and see what happens: the top chunk of the iPhone including just below the notch is blurred out, making all of that area unusable, shrinking the real usable area of the screen.

The notch is absurd, and will be viewed as such in the future when technology is advanced enough to have it killed. It's just as absurd on a phone as it is on an iMac, TV, smartwatch, etc. The only reason it exists is because Apple seemed to have no other way of getting cameras and sensors on the front of the phone while at the same time having an edge-to-edge screen.

 

[PieTunes]

Apple chose to implement the array of elements that currently are on the top of the phone, namely the speaker, sensors, flood illuminator, etc. by creating the visually definable notch. Is it ugly? To some, sure. Is it noticeable? To some, sure. Is it a god awful design? That's not personally something I really care about. I like the iPhone for being what it is, an iPhone. It does everything I want and in an ecosystem I have enjoyed using for years. I'm sure if they had the ability to do so, they would have put all those things inside/under the screen to avoid having to use a notch, but they aren't completely technologically there yet, at least in a way they want. They will be, and maybe sooner rather than later, who knows. To say that people will flock to the iPhone when it gets to the point the notch isn't necessary and say that they want to go back to the notch because it was so great, I just think that's a bit false. No one wants to regress. The notch is one of those "it is what it is" things until it's a technical hurdle Apple can overcome the way they want.

To me the iPhone is great regardless of whatever impactful design elements that might be questionable, at least so far. Nothing they have done with their phone yet has been enough to rile me up to such a polarizing degree that the notch has. I don't go out of my way to hate it, nor do I go out of my way to like it. It just.. is.

 

[bambooshots]

Apple chose to implement the array of elements that currently are on the top of the phone, namely the speaker, sensors, flood illuminator, etc. by creating the visually definable notch. Is it ugly? To some, sure. Is it noticeable? To some, sure. Is it a god awful design? That's not personally something I really care about. I like the iPhone for being what it is, an iPhone. It does everything I want and in an ecosystem I have enjoyed using for years. I'm sure if they had the ability to do so, they would have put all those things inside/under the screen to avoid having to use a notch, but they aren't completely technologically there yet, at least in a way they want. They will be, and maybe sooner rather than later, who knows. To say that people will flock to the iPhone when it gets to the point the notch isn't necessary and say that they want to go back to the notch because it was so great, I just think that's a bit false. No one wants to regress. The notch is one of those "it is what it is" things until it's a technical hurdle Apple can overcome the way they want.

To me the iPhone is great regardless of whatever impactful design elements that might be questionable, at least so far. Nothing they have done with their phone yet has been enough to rile me up to such a polarizing degree that the notch has. I don't go out of my way to hate it, nor do I go out of my way to like it. It just.. is.

Well said.