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Highly recommend Jon Rettinger’s YouTube channel. He does a great job of putting himself in the consumer’s shoes and actually talks about his own experience using the phone instead of the same regurgitated scripts.

Juan bag well too… he openly said he doesn’t like the direction Apple is going and he’s not gonna hold himself hostage for clicks so he chooses not to speak on Apple much. He barely has many subscribers but he’s very honest snd real with his bases.

He’s a hardcore camera guy though.
 
Apple is concerened with making the best, most polished smartphone for the end-user.

Tech content creators are concerned with flashy "bells and whistles" that will give their videos clicks, like foldable screens.

Apple is listening to the customers; not the tech freaks - this is why Apple is winning and Samsung is losing the smartphone battle.
I agree with you up to a point but I also own and maintain a Samsung upgrade path and I don’t know if they’re losing anything per se.

They’re doing their own thing, they make their money pushing the envelope and developing new components for their phones that end up being licensed to other manufacturers, including Apple and Google. And it’s interesting to watch them do this. Their actual bread and butter products are still the standard slab phones, many of which are extremely nice to own and use.

And they do respond to customer feedback on their products. The Z Flip 3 still isn’t something I feel is going to survive my linty pockets, but Samsung has come a lot further than I expected them to in making it a foldable I would look twice at. And that’s because they took in customer feedback and addressed the most pressing complaints. Now they’ve got new complaints to work on for the next generation

I don’t believe Apple is ignoring the potential market for foldables. I think they are just looking at others to do the work first and make all the mistakes, so they can avoid the pitfalls and come out swinging rather than tripping over themselves.

Samsung doesn’t mind tripping if they can show off something nobody has ever seen on the market before. They’re of a different corporate mindset. I appreciate that they do this and that they are sometimes the driving force in pushing Apple to pick up their pace just a bit.

What frustrates me about some of the YT hosts is that they use clickbait tactics to bait Android people vs iOS people, but then when you actually watch the video you see them backing out of taking any kind of stand lest they get mauled by the respective fanatics.
 
Most of the tech YouTubers are terrible and copy each other. I really respect pages like Christopher Lawley. He does some of the best videos on iPad Pro specific stuff mostly, but as far as tech goes, one of the few YouTubers I really like. Also a big fan of MKBHD.


I think the 13 Pro is an S version of the 12 Pro, and that’s ok. Most of the YouTubers are looking for clicks…that’s their income, but they’re become so annoying, especially the face palm thumb nails or big bold worded DON’T MAKE THIS MISTAKE.
 
Still no USB-C, that says a lot of it.

Sure its better than 'competition' but so was the iPhone 12. There's no reason to upgrade.

The new iPad Mini is what really stole the show and the only one worth buying.
Apple not making the ‘Pro’ iPhones USB-C is a bit of a joke. There’s simply no reason not to have made that transition. Leave the non-Pro models Lightning, or make the full transition to USB-C. What’s their reasoning for continuing with lightning at this point?
 
People are too addicted to advancement and lose sight of how far we’ve come, in my opinion. All of these improvements take time to design, negotiate, build facilities, hire people, implement, figure out yields, test, scale up, distribute. The scale and speed of their logistics to even be on a yearly cycle is pretty amazing to me (Apple, and all the phone makers). My friend’s iPhone SE came out only a few years ago, and the camera is hot garbage compared to the cameras in my iPhone 12 Pro. Even the SE was amazing compared to those before it. Incremental progress should be appreciated more, because creating new things takes time, money, and effort. I think it’s a blast being on the ride.

Personally, I avoid all the trashy youtube shock videos that just spin clickbait narratives to farm views, likes, and subs. I wish Apple would partner with some of them to go deeper into the backstory and designs, like they used to do with Johnny Ives. Johnny being a pretentious blowhard aside, I found it pretty fascinating to hear their design philosophies, engineering achievements, and depth of thought. That is true creation, not like these face palming, vapid youtubers trying to catch eye time with 99% recirculated info and lies.
 
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no doubt an amazing phone, but not enough fo rme to upgrade from my trusty iPhone 11 Pro Max. Still great battery life and good enough camera for my needs. Maybe next year if they go notchless
 
I am in I.T and have a bunch of Apple products. I don't want any other phone than the iPhone 13 Pro coming next week. I noticed a lot of tech people like riding the android bandwagon. I can see some cases as to why, but not my preference.
 
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Anybody noticing the fake hate of the iPhone 13 Pro Max on youtube/tech sites? The depressing narrative gets clicks..

These people that are annoying you aren’t Tech vloggers, they are Click-tubers. So the general rule is:

“If they photoshopped an unreleased product into their hands then don’t EVER click them any money”.

Personally, what I hate most is their lack of integrity. They BUY a new product. Make a video. where they RECOMMEND it. Andand then Return within 10 days. It’s just sleazy that these people RECOMMEND a product that they already got had refunded because “It’s just not worth that much money”.
 
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To start, I don't hate any Youtuber. I understand that Youtube demands a certain level of engagement and that sadly means clickbait titles, catchy thumbnails, and sponsorships to VPNs and various mobile games to pay the bills and keep them well fed. It's hard to hate a fellow worker, even if you aren't a fan of their work.

That said, tech and gaming Youtubers do feel very disconnected from the average user. Their work has them dealing with tech and games week in and week out and you can see that with the very nitpicky complaints that most people would shrug at. It's hard to listen to them about tech because their talking points are often for them and people like them.
 
Apple not making the ‘Pro’ iPhones USB-C is a bit of a joke. There’s simply no reason not to have made that transition. Leave the non-Pro models Lightning, or make the full transition to USB-C. What’s their reasoning for continuing with lightning at this point?
2022 marks the 10 year mark for the Lightening connector, my guess it gets replaced next year on iPhone 14/Pro and will still be on the iPhone SE 2022 model due to its earlier release and not make it have an edge for port connection over the iPhone 13/Pro.

iPad 10th gen will probably get it too if the shell accommodates it or it might see a redesign in the fall. Apple maybe trying to retire Pencil1 and reduce manufacturing lines and cost for it. Just a thought.

iPhone 13/Pro is more of a “S” model year tbh, nothing wrong with it just not as big as the iPhone 12/Pro that brought a rehashed shell and standardized OLED plus who can forget the mini.
 
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12S for sure, hasn't one me over and I usually upgrade every year. Nothing I see spending $2KAUD, and only getting $1200 for my 12 pro max for. Yet. Will wait till they hit gumtree for a huge discount.
 
Agreed.

They should be hating on the Series 7 Watch Frankenstein design Apple slapped together (likely) last minute. If you’re telling me they spent a year on a bigger screen w/thicker front glass and faster charging and…. More rounded edges (that took courage) I would like to buy drugs from where you do.

I’ve been waiting for 120hz screen for a while now. And this is the biggest battery ever on an iPhone. So I’m with it. Didn’t get the 12 because of the decrease in battery size and felt like a flat edges 11 pro. Also 128gb starting storage was a nice bone from the although pro’s should have started at 256.

I wish they had brought back 3D Touch (yeah right) and Touch ID, but with the “increase” in chip costs they weren’t about to ad a $30 power button Touch ID sensor this year. Especially with no price increase.
 
Iphones have such a massive following of fans that it doesn't need people white knighting or defending it. I see more vids that have misinformation and hate on android phones than iphones to be honest. There are countless YT channels fanboying apple's products. No one should base their purchase on what others think anyway.
 
Anybody noticing the fake hate of the iPhone 13 Pro Max on youtube/tech sites? The depressing narrative gets clicks.. like if it ain’t folding, it’s no longer an option? Boring? Apple is out here polishing the crap out of these phones. Millions of people want a high-end candybar slab phone and this fits the bill. Like when you hold an iPhone it feels like a piece of jewelry with a fluid OS. I love it. Lmao millions of people are going to buy this thing. This year 13 line this year is amazing:

The 13 Pro Max is a freaking BEAST. 6.7” APPLE OLED 120hz Pro Motion display (paired with the already buttery smooth iOS), near 3 hours EXTRA battery (or maybe more) even though this is Apple’s first time using 120hz? And with 5G antennas? Brighter screen? Even better cameras? Same price as before? More powerful SOC? 128 base storage now? This is an awesome package.

Not to mention the new camera system which will most likely produce amazing results. Smart HDR 4 too… which no one mentioned either. When the XS dropped with Smart HDR, it vastly improved the image quality, I can’t wait to see what Smart HDR 4 does!

And that Sierra Blur color! It looks amazing to me, it’s like a glacier or icicle colored iPhone. I’ll always love the Pacific Blue but this thing looks awesome in this shade of blue.

I can’t wait!! Anybody else excited about it? Techie people online have become incredibly jaded these days that I think they’re in the minority.
Nobody has time to "flip" a phone open that's an extra step!! LOL yes, agreed, the 13 will be amazing I am sure!!!!
 
Controversy sells views so they'll start one to get someone to view it and post about it. This thread is proof that someone got worked up over it. I merely see them as nothing but entertainment for me personally.
 
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