iPhone 13 Pro Max I’m noticing a lot of online “tech” people hating on the iPhone 13 Pro line even though it is a freaking BEAST

[marty1980]

The you tubers are naysaying and you’re overhyping. 🤷🏼‍♂️

If you step back and look at the improvements, it’s minimal this year. The iPhone 13 is the best iPhone available. It’s just not very exciting for tech talk when they are comparing to the iPhone 12. It’s a problem when the tubers are always comparing to the previous year model and not as much focus on where people are mostly upgrading which is iPhone 7,8,X, and XS. The differences between those phones and the iPhone 13 are much wider.

It’s alright to fanboi out like you’re doing, but don’t be upset about any particular reviewers. The good ones explain their perspective and you don’t have to agree with everything they say. It’s just people’s opinions. Just like this post. It’s my opinion and not everybody is going to agree with me. I’m excited for the iPhone 13 because it’s time for me to upgrade. If not for that, I would look at it with a meh expression.

People have high expectations for iPhone 14 next year. I’m really curious to see how that plays out even though I have no intention of upgrading myself.

 

[Populus]

To fanboi out, I like that expression hahaha. I like how sensible your comment is. And deep down, I agree with it.

 

[Motionblurrr]

This is probably the only place anyone can fanboy out about the iPhone 13 without any contrarians, so don’t mind if I do!

 

[Paddle1]

FaceId is a far more secure, reliable, fluid and easy to use and better in every single way

You don't actually think that??

- Wearing a mask
- In your pocket/bag etc
- When the phone is laying flat
- In landscape or at certain angles
- When using Apple Pay

I don't hate Face ID but the truth is that neither of them are superior 100% of the time.

 

[PaladinGuy]

The you tubers are naysaying and you’re overhyping.

If you step back and look at the improvements, it’s minimal this year. The iPhone 13 is the best iPhone available. It’s just not very exciting for tech talk when they are comparing to the iPhone 12. It’s a problem when the tubers are always comparing to the previous year model and not as much focus on where people are mostly upgrading which is iPhone 7,8,X, and XS. The differences between those phones and the iPhone 13 are much wider.

It’s alright to fanboi out like you’re doing, but don’t be upset about any particular reviewers. The good ones explain their perspective and you don’t have to agree with everything they say. It’s just people’s opinions. Just like this post. It’s my opinion and not everybody is going to agree with me. I’m excited for the iPhone 13 because it’s time for me to upgrade. If not for that, I would look at it with a meh expression.

People have high expectations for iPhone 14 next year. I’m really curious to see how that plays out even though I have no intention of upgrading myself.

I’m starting to think that maybe most of us have set our expectations way to high recently on yearly updates. The smartphone is a very mature product now, and there’s just not a ton that can be changed/added right now. The Apple Watch is starting to get that way, too. Many of the additional sensors that can be added either have accuracy issues or are highly regulated (skin temperature is an exception, and I really think Apple should have added it this year).

Apple’s marketing is also a little to blame for the expectations. It’s what gets me really annoyed when I have a defect or issue with one of their products because they market their products as being top quality and perfect (to some degree). Rationally, I know they’re just electronics that can break or have issues. Emotionally, I expect a lot more from them.

 

[cuzo]

Thank you so much for your kind words. I definitely shared your distaste for their copying and many other things they’ve done in the past.

It took me years of following progress in smartphone development to see them evolve past being the kid who is always trying to copy your homework to someone who realizes they actually have it in them to write their own essays.

Lol but I readily admit I haven’t quite reached that point with Huawei yet. I think they’re shady due to their corporate espionage that goes way beyond copying already released products or even rumored concepts. But I can’t deny they would have shaken up the market.

My husband got curious enough to import one of their flagships a few years ago, right before they were poised to enter the US market via a now defunct deal with AT&T.

Damn that was a brilliant phone! Their camera sometimes outperformed those of our flagship Samsungs, Iphones, and my HTC 10, especially in difficult conditions. It can still sometimes produce stunning photos that outclass the ones made by our current phones. But it also inconsistently performed in very ordinary circumstances and produced inexplicably mediocre results.

Still, it was a good overall phone that he really enjoyed using despite it not really being fully supported for the US market. Had they gotten approval to sell in the US, Samsung would have had the battle of their life and Apple would probably have brought features they still don’t offer like AOD to iPhones three years ago.

I’m glad they were shut out though. There’s a certain predatory ruthlessness to them I’d rather not see spread around. The rivalry with Samsung is more wholesome in comparison.

That phone was so badass

 

[Starscape]

Anybody noticing the fake hate of the iPhone 13 Pro Max on youtube/tech sites? The depressing narrative gets clicks.. like if it ain’t folding, it’s no longer an option? Boring? Apple is out here polishing the crap out of these phones. Millions of people want a high-end candybar slab phone and this fits the bill. Like when you hold an iPhone it feels like a piece of jewelry with a fluid OS. I love it. Lmao millions of people are going to buy this thing. This year 13 line this year is amazing:

The 13 Pro Max is a freaking BEAST. 6.7” APPLE OLED 120hz Pro Motion display (paired with the already buttery smooth iOS), near 3 hours EXTRA battery (or maybe more) even though this is Apple’s first time using 120hz? And with 5G antennas? Brighter screen? Even better cameras? Same price as before? More powerful SOC? 128 base storage now? This is an awesome package.

Not to mention the new camera system which will most likely produce amazing results. Smart HDR 4 too… which no one mentioned either. When the XS dropped with Smart HDR, it vastly improved the image quality, I can’t wait to see what Smart HDR 4 does!

And that Sierra Blur color! It looks amazing to me, it’s like a glacier or icicle colored iPhone. I’ll always love the Pacific Blue but this thing looks awesome in this shade of blue.

I can’t wait!! Anybody else excited about it? Techie people online have become incredibly jaded these days that I think they’re in the minority.

That sort of thing happens with Android phones all over the place, including here. Nothing new.

 

[mxrider88]

The problem is that YouTubers milk apple like if there was no tomorrow.

A video for every pixel they change on the user interface, a video for every leak, reliable or not, a video about post keynote thoughts, a video two days after the keynote, a video a week after the keynote, a video about the preorder, a video about pre delivery “feelings”, unboxing, first impression video, a week with my new apple device, a month with my device, a year after video. It’s a joke. It’s pure milking.
I personally stopped watching and especially I do not subscribe or put comments or likes on any video. If we all did that maybe they would come back down to earth. They build so much hype that the joy of a new product disappears. Man they are talking about iPhone 14 and no one has a 13 in their hands. Basically iPhone 13 is obsolete a week before the launch.

We all need a reality check, the smartphone industry is super mature and over saturated. Improvements are gonna be smaller and smaller in the years to come and more and more predictable. The innovation we all seek will come from new product categories like glasses or who knows what, not from phones or watches.

my 2 cents

 

[Fluttershy462]

I think there’s a lot of paranoia in tech forums about USB-C. Which conector is used is probably in 200th place in the list of priorities when buying a phone. How many people are not going to buy an iPhone just because it doesn’t have lightning? 0.01%? However, I could see a much bigger (but still very low) percentage of people hesitant to upgrade because their accessories won’t work. But anyway, the connector is very irrelevant and says nothing about how “pro” a phone is.

The new iPad Pros got USB-C, the new iPad Mini got the PRO treatment with USB-C, among other things.

It's just so strange that the word Pro for the iPhone is rather meaningless.

This time you can get an option for 1tb of storage but with the USB 2.0 transfer speeds of the lightning port, it's not a pleasant experience, definitely not a Pro product. So odd because it's being marketed as something that you'd want to record professional video with.

The last full capacity iPhone I had was the XS Max in 512gb and I was not pleased with the Lightning port back then either.

 

[kstewart61]

Don't see the big deal about what type of charger it comes with as long as it works is all that matters.

 

[Menneisyys2]

Don't see the big deal about what type of charger it comes with as long as it works is all that matters.

It's not a q about charger types but that of data transfer speeds, particularly now that ProRes is also supported.

 

[Alpha God Vonn]

Even doe I brought it there honestly isn’t anything Special about the iPhone 13. Slightly faster. Slightly better battery life. Slightly smaller notch. New Camera system. That’s it. That’s all. Oh yeah 120 hertz display

 

[pshufd]

It really depends on what the average person is doing; not what tech influencers do. If you need a phone (like you have an iPhone 5, 5s, SE, 6, 6s, 7), then it doesn't really matter that much what the influencer says. Anything you get is going to be better than what you have. I'm in that situation. The influencers are more about upgrading every year so the delta is more important. But most people don't do that. So Apple can get away with small deltas every once in a while.

 

[maflynn]

The 13 Pro Max is a freaking BEAST. 6.7” APPLE OLED 120hz Pro Motion display

Mostly because the iPhone 13 (pro and non-pro) is largely an underwhelming update. On one hand, they introduce the Pro Res to the iPhone but then they limit its usage due to the slow lightening port that remains on the iPhone.

The only major feature is the faster display, and even that was supposed to be on the 12 and other phones have had that - Apple is a Johnny come lately.

I'm not down on the iPhone itself, but this update would barely qualify for as an "S" update of old. Apple knew this because they filled the time with fluff videos and discussing things other then iphone features.

 

[George Dawes]

There’s a guy on there criticising the iPhone camera when he compares it to d slr , when I mentioned how utterly ridiculous it was to compare a piece of dedicated photo equipment to a multi use item like an iPhone which can do virtually anything he blocked me 😂

says it all about youtube to me

 

[kstewart61]

A lot of the YouTube titles are click bait they will say anything to get hits on the video.

 

[satchmo]

It’s basically the 12 S. Which means it’s a solidly refined version of what was done last year. That’s not good enough for some people and they make a lot of money trying to convince you it’s not good enough for you, every year. Apple moves at a slow pace. It’s been this way for years. I’m not always thrilled about that myself, but it is what it is. If we listened to all of these videos, we’d all be carrying around iPhone 6’s and X’s because I see lots of people keep insisting Apple has done nothing noteworthy since introducing those models.

Sure, I use to be frustrated at Apple pace as well. But I‘ve come to understand their strategy and constraints.

Doing so also retains an iPhone’s value. Adding too many features each year leaves them with nothing for the following year. You’re able to resell without as much loss. Apple also doesn’t want to alienate those who just bought last year.

But the key reason I believe, is production. Apple churned out over 200m iPhone 12’s last year. The logistics and supply chain to get new parts, tooling and manufacturing to make massive change yearly is unrealistic and financially unwise. I think many forget all the heavy lifting that goes into bring a product to market.

 

[5105973]

Sure, I use to be frustrated at Apple pace as well. But I‘ve come to understand their strategy and constraints.

Doing so also retains an iPhone’s value. Adding too many features each year leaves them with nothing for the following year. You’re able to resell without as much loss. Apple also doesn’t want to alienate those who just bought last year.

But the key reason I believe, is production. Apple churned out over 200m iPhone 12’s last year. The logistics and supply chain to get new parts, tooling and manufacturing to make massive change yearly is unrealistic and financially unwise. I think many forget all the heavy lifting that goes into bring a product to market.

Ah, very good points! I keep forgetting even Samsung, with its global market, doesn’t sell nearly the number of its highest level flagship phones as Apple does. They’re mostly selling their budget lines.

 

[satchmo]

Ah, very good points! I keep forgetting even Samsung, with its global market, doesn’t sell nearly the number of its highest level flagship phones as Apple does. They’re mostly selling their budget lines.

And Google sold only around 7 mil Pixel 5 phones. Easy peasy to pivot and redesign the Pixel 6.

Sometimes I wonder if Apple would start an offshoot company that pushes the envelope. They could be that rebelious small Silicon Valley again!

 

[marco114]

I think the iPhone 13 looks great. I don't think it was a huge step up from the 12, but I had a iPhone X that has served me well and it was time to upgrade. Plus the AT&T $800 extra credit was hard to pass up. I am only paying like $20 a month. I don't know if I will be able to wait 3 years again though until the next upgrade.

 

[jaymc]

There’s a guy on there criticising the iPhone camera when he compares it to d slr , when I mentioned how utterly ridiculous it was to compare a piece of dedicated photo equipment to a multi use item like an iPhone which can do virtually anything he blocked me 😂

says it all about youtube to me

No iPhone can optically zoom. So there is that.

 

[NotApplicable]

That is some strong Kool-Aid

 

[H2SO4]

I don’t mean it like that—like I’m not butthurt about it, it’s just excitement is completely drowned in absolute negativity online and it’s funny to me when the actual products are and have always been amazing

I don't see them as amazing. Not in the slightest. They are great product with cutting edge tech, (which maybe I've become desensitised to now), but they don't amaze me.
Watch this;

That's amazing. In a different way perhaps but that is truly amazing.

 

[mmomega]

Im buying a 13 Pro, but the keynote presentation and the device itself fells like a stopgap solution for the thing that should have been released this year.

The pre-recorded keynote's, for me, have really taken away from everything they produce...again for me.

It comes across as just an informational packet or a live-view excel spreadsheet (filmed on iPhone) spouting percentages on top of percentages with no way to really understand or connect with what is actually being talked about, no anchor of reference, just percentages repeating everywhere.
As if Lazyboy released an add saying this chair is 45% better than last years chair, or 1500% better than their first chair....like what does that MEAN MEAN to a person simply using the phone. Nothing.
To me the newer keynotes have made the products seem worse than they are.

I enjoyed more the interaction of a crowd when Phil would say some off-the-wall stuff and the crowd of nerds cheer like a rock concert, or when they introduced something half-assed, the reaction of 15-20 golf-clappers was a funny whomp, whomp right back to the presenters to know, y'all could have done better.

Now it's a whole lot of, "off to this person" to sound like Charlie Brown's teacher to then send it back to Tim to rub in our face the percentages again as he gets ready to segway to the next Charlie Brown teacher.

 

[mmomega]

A large majority of YouTubers (not all) are sell-outs and shills. Whatever gets them clicks they’ll feed off of. It’s cringy and pathetic. Don’t get me wrong, there’s some good content out there. But a lot of them are nothing more than a $hitty used car salesman.

Edit: To answer your question (lol), I’m very excited for this iteration. I’m coming from a XS Max so this will be quite a nice upgrade for me.

I take youtubers more so as working people not emotionally attached to the thing they are showing but who's job is to get those emotionally attached people to watch and pay them.

I wouldn't necessairly call them a sell-out or a shill, they have just been putting in time to hone their craft, which on youtube is to learn to work the algorythym that determines more viewers and more income.
Not much different than being a yes man to the boss to get that promotion - or not be a yes man and stay in the same rut for a decade. You have to do what you have to do in the career path you chose if you want to increase income.

And if they entered the space to gain income, then play the game hard. If they entered the space simply to be in the space, then they pass the time in it as they see fit.