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iPhone 13 Pro Max I’m noticing a lot of online “tech” people hating on the iPhone 13 Pro line even though it is a freaking BEAST

This year's phones don't have much 'wow factor', but I've always preferred refinements and features over new designs. My all-time favourite iPhone is the 6s Plus, which blew me away at the time. I upgraded from the standard 6 and it was crazy.

The 6s Plus was super fast, it was my first Plus phone and I loved the screen and battery life, 3D Touch was really cool, the camera was a big step up (especially with Live Photos)... and it was the first pink iPhone! Loved it.

The 13 Pro Max is giving me the same sort of vibes. Refinement of an already gorgeous design, ProMotion at last (something I appreciate coming from my 165Hz gaming monitor), the best camera system in a phone (probably), epic battery life, and a gorgeous new colour! Hype!

I've seen lots of comments both in forums and from journalists saying this is an 's' year in everything but name, calling it boring and incremental. However, an 's' year is exactly what I love. I can't wait and I'm looking forward to having a lot of fun with this new phone over the next two or three years.
 
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RobinYerbank said:
but I've always preferred refinements and features over new designs. My all-time favourite iPhone is the 6s Plus, which blew me away at the time. I upgraded from the standard 6 and it was crazy. . . .

The 13 Pro Max is giving me the same sort of vibes. Refinement of an already gorgeous design, ProMotion at last (something I appreciate coming from my 165Hz gaming monitor), the best camera system in a phone (probably), epic battery life, and a gorgeous new colour! Hype!

I've seen lots of comments both in forums and from journalists saying this is an 's' year in everything but name, calling it boring and incremental. However, an 's' year is exactly what I love. I can't wait and I'm looking forward to having a lot of fun with this new phone over the next two or three years.
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^ This. And, OSX Snow Leopard enters the chat ....
 
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GrumpyMom said:
I agree with you up to a point but I also own and maintain a Samsung upgrade path and I don’t know if they’re losing anything per se.

They’re doing their own thing, they make their money pushing the envelope and developing new components for their phones that end up being licensed to other manufacturers, including Apple and Google. And it’s interesting to watch them do this. Their actual bread and butter products are still the standard slab phones, many of which are extremely nice to own and use.

And they do respond to customer feedback on their products. The Z Flip 3 still isn’t something I feel is going to survive my linty pockets, but Samsung has come a lot further than I expected them to in making it a foldable I would look twice at. And that’s because they took in customer feedback and addressed the most pressing complaints. Now they’ve got new complaints to work on for the next generation

I don’t believe Apple is ignoring the potential market for foldables. I think they are just looking at others to do the work first and make all the mistakes, so they can avoid the pitfalls and come out swinging rather than tripping over themselves.

Samsung doesn’t mind tripping if they can show off something nobody has ever seen on the market before. They’re of a different corporate mindset. I appreciate that they do this and that they are sometimes the driving force in pushing Apple to pick up their pace just a bit.

What frustrates me about some of the YT hosts is that they use clickbait tactics to bait Android people vs iOS people, but then when you actually watch the video you see them backing out of taking any kind of stand lest they get mauled by the respective fanatics.
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Hey @GrumpyMom 🙂 just wanted to say this is one of the most sensible, measured and thoughtful posts on Samsung I've seen here (probably ever). I've only ever bought Macs and Apple smartphones & tablets, and I don't really see myself ever buying a device from Samsung's phones/computing division, but your post actually made me view them from a different perspective.

I think Samsung's attitude of copying – often shamelessly – has put me off in the past, but it's true they are also doing a good share of the work to advance consumer technology.
 
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orbital~debris said:
Hey @GrumpyMom 🙂 just wanted to say this is one of the most sensible, measured and thoughtful posts on Samsung I've seen here (probably ever). I've only ever bought Macs and Apple smartphones & tablets, and I don't really see myself ever buying a device from Samsung's phones/computing division, but your post actually made me view them from a different perspective.

I think Samsung's attitude of copying – often shamelessly – has put me off in the past, but it's true they are also doing a good share of the work to advance consumer technology.
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Thank you so much for your kind words. I definitely shared your distaste for their copying and many other things they’ve done in the past.

It took me years of following progress in smartphone development to see them evolve past being the kid who is always trying to copy your homework to someone who realizes they actually have it in them to write their own essays.

Lol but I readily admit I haven’t quite reached that point with Huawei yet. I think they’re shady due to their corporate espionage that goes way beyond copying already released products or even rumored concepts. But I can’t deny they would have shaken up the market.

My husband got curious enough to import one of their flagships a few years ago, right before they were poised to enter the US market via a now defunct deal with AT&T.

Damn that was a brilliant phone! Their camera sometimes outperformed those of our flagship Samsungs, Iphones, and my HTC 10, especially in difficult conditions. It can still sometimes produce stunning photos that outclass the ones made by our current phones. But it also inconsistently performed in very ordinary circumstances and produced inexplicably mediocre results.

Still, it was a good overall phone that he really enjoyed using despite it not really being fully supported for the US market. Had they gotten approval to sell in the US, Samsung would have had the battle of their life and Apple would probably have brought features they still don’t offer like AOD to iPhones three years ago.

I’m glad they were shut out though. There’s a certain predatory ruthlessness to them I’d rather not see spread around. The rivalry with Samsung is more wholesome in comparison.
 
Sorry OP, but the iPhone 13, even the pro line, is ho-hum at best. When the U-Tubers point out folding screens, fingerprint readers, and other innovations from the competitors they have a valid point. That doesn't mean the 13 is a bad phone, it is just typical of Apple these days by lacking in true innovation.
 
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golftime said:
Sorry OP, but the iPhone 13, even the pro line, is ho-hum at best. When the U-Tubers point out folding screens, fingerprint readers, and other innovations from the competitors they have a valid point. That doesn't mean the 13 is a bad phone, it is just typical of Apple these days by lacking in true innovation.
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I wouldn’t call fingerprint scanners as being innovation. It’s just a different type of unlocking your phone.

foldables are great tech but apple won’t bring it to market until there are no flaws with it from a display and software being perfect for it.

innovation is such an overrated term in tech these days.
 
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iPhone is a great phone.

It's just the the different iPhones are not that different from each other than the lack of camera, screen size, a few features here and there.

In the Android world, there's a phone with a mix and match of features namely

USB-C
Fingerprint unlock
Notch/punch hole camera
Desktop mode
Fast charging
Ultra high battery capacity
microSD card
Dual sim
Folding phones
Flip phones
Stylus support
Designs
Expensive vs cheap

When you look at an iPhone, you know it's an iPhone.

When you look at an Android phone, you won't know which company is making the phone just from the looks.
 
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I’m upgrading from an 11 to the 13. Love the color I’m getting and the camera and speed upgrades and battery life are a welcome thing.
 
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I honestly believe it’s because that’s what gets clicks. This generation loves to berate and be negative about things, talk about how much better things should be. Heck even sports shows now focus on what a player didn’t do and they gloss over what they did do - it’s ridiculous.
The iPhone this year looks great, it will be great next year and it will be great the year after that.
My wife watches all the reality shows, whether it’s the real estate one or Kardashians - and the people where money is no object - they ain’t rockin the Samsung.
Personally I love the iPhone because or the supreme engineering for functionality and style. Other brands usually do one or the other.
Hey OP - don’t stress - people will always talk - apparently lebron James isn’t any good at basketball if you watch armchair “experts”.
 
teohyc said:
iPhone is a great phone.

It's just the the different iPhones are not that different from each other than the lack of camera, screen size, a few features here and there.

In the Android world, there's a phone with a mix and match of features namely

USB-C
Fingerprint unlock
Notch/punch hole camera
Desktop mode
Fast charging
Ultra high battery capacity
microSD card
Dual sim
Folding phones
Flip phones
Stylus support
Designs
Expensive vs cheap

When you look at an iPhone, you know it's an iPhone.

When you look at an Android phone, you won't know which company is making the phone just from the looks.
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Remember when Apple’s slogan was “if it’s not an iPhone….. it’s not an iPhone” 😂
 
golftime said:
Sorry OP, but the iPhone 13, even the pro line, is ho-hum at best. When the U-Tubers point out folding screens, fingerprint readers, and other innovations from the competitors they have a valid point. That doesn't mean the 13 is a bad phone, it is just typical of Apple these days by lacking in true innovation.
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Fingerprint readers are innovation? Maybe 10 years ago.

Folding screens are interesting, but so far, they‘ve had durability problems. That, combined with price, has limited the number of people buying them.
 
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compwiz1202 said:
The one thing that gets more annoying every year is still no Touch ID even though they have been saying it for years.
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The one thing that is even more annoying than that every year is people saying OmG nO tOuCh Id

Touch ID is dead. It’s never, ever coming back unless maybe on another SE model (although even the SE 3 is rumoured to have Face ID). It’s ancient technology and rightly consigned to the past

FaceId is a far more secure, reliable, fluid and easy to use and better in every single way
 
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KOTN91 said:
Touch ID is dead. It’s never, ever coming back unless maybe on another SE model
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….then why do they keep introducing it on new devices?

(iPads and keyboards and MacBooks)

it’s reasonable to be confused about their direction and choices here
 
KOTN91 said:
The one thing that is even more annoying than that every year is people saying OmG nO tOuCh Id

Touch ID is dead. It’s never, ever coming back unless maybe on another SE model (although even the SE 3 is rumoured to have Face ID). It’s ancient technology and rightly consigned to the past

FaceId is a far more secure, reliable, fluid and easy to use and better in every single way
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Yeah, Face ID is far more advanced. For instance, in the stores, for using Apple Pay: “hey, wait a moment, I am taking my mask off to approve the payment” Security guard: “Sir, you cannot take your mask off here”, Me: “Ok then, I’ll let you all see my passcode introducing it in front of you all”
 
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The most important reason for the "hate" (I'd say it's disappointment only, not "hate"): Lightning and its speed. Or, the lack thereof.
 
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KOTN91 said:
The one thing that is even more annoying than that every year is people saying OmG nO tOuCh Id

Touch ID is dead. It’s never, ever coming back unless maybe on another SE model (although even the SE 3 is rumoured to have Face ID). It’s ancient technology and rightly consigned to the past

FaceId is a far more secure, reliable, fluid and easy to use and better in every single way
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Face ID is useless in a world of masks. True innovation would have responded to changes in society and provided users both - with Face ID as well as touch ID to work in today's world. Android phones have eliminated the notch, which is still a wart. Battery life is better on the 13s but certainly not the benchmark. The 13 is a good phone, but to imply that all the criticism from various reviewers it just iPhone hate it just not realistic.
 
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Temporary changes in society is a whole different beast all together though. It’ll eventually go back to “normal” sooner than later and Apple knows this, so they won’t bring Touch ID to their Face ID equipped iPhones.

Unless they have some kind of face/heat signature type of technology (remember they’re a trillion dollar company with essentially unlimited R&D) so you know they’re cooking something else up in the Apple lab.

If it can’t see your face then maybe it can read your vitals somehow, considering that now these SOCs Apple has been making are going to near quantum computing level since they’re getting even smaller and smaller AND more powerful—they will have the horse power necessary to pull off these complex tasks.
 
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