mac-man said:
of all the multi-client apps, proteus is also my favourite. It has a cleaner look, and better extra's IMO. The duck icon skinning is cool, but still nothing special.
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of all the multi-client apps, proteus is also my favourite. It has a cleaner look, and better extra's IMO. The duck icon skinning is cool, but still nothing special.
I sent you a PM (private message).mac-man said:
I'm a former Adium user (I don't use it anymore since I don't really use MSN/Yahoo all that much, and that's all I had it for). Adium's a great little application - it's highly customizable as well.
matticus008 said:It's no less work space than the other iBooks. The displays on the 12" and 14" are the same resolution (1024x768). If you're going to be using an external display anyway, you should go for the PowerBook...it'll just make your life easier. Except, of course, if you need/want/like the oversized pixels on the 14" iBook display. Personally, I can't stand how jagged they look and don't know too many people (especially students) that have any visibility problems with the 12" displays.
If you think the 14" gives you a larger work area than the 12, then it's good to know that you're wrong so you can reevaluate your purchase decisions.
okk.. soo ur sayin that the 12" has just as much room for apps as the 14 ibook ???? how so ?? .. and why's it a better deal fer the powerbook..?
mac-man said:
Right. Since both have the same resolution (1024x768), each has the same total number of pixels. Therefore, if you were to put a box that filled half the screen on the 12" then the 14" would display the same box taking up half the screen as well. It would just be slightly larger physically, because the 14" has larger pixels, rather than more of them. More pixels is what gives you more space to work.
The PowerBook is faster, has more RAM, better graphics hardware, and comes with a different set of features. The Apple website will give you the specifics, but basically you would be giving up the SuperDrive on the iBook in exchange for a lighter computer that would more capably drive an external monitor (which seems to be more important to you than being able to burn DVDs). If it's important that you have a large workspace and you already plan on using a larger display, the PowerBook is designed to do that. The iBook can be forced to behave this way, but that's not the way it's meant to be, and it will offer lesser performance in doing so because it has inferior graphics hardware.
It all boils down to what is most important to you. If you need a portable that has more space than the 12" iBook/PowerBook, then the 14" iBook isn't going to give it to you. For that, you'll need a 15" or 17" PB (which are hundreds of dollars more expensive, of course) or a non-Apple notebook. If you plan on using an external display to get a big workspace, then the Radeon 9200 w/ 32MB and the iBook is not the ideal way to do it. The 12" PB is best for that (FX5200 w/ 64MB and better built-in support for external displays).
The room for applications is exactly the same even though the screen sizes are different because the resolutions are identical (they're both 1024x768).mac-man said:
The 12 inch Powerbook, compared to the 14 inch iBook, gives you a faster CPU, a better GPU, a faster hard drive, built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR, 100 GB BTO option for the hard drive, and a better dual-screen implementation (less restrictive than the iBook).
~loserman~ said:
Beleive me, this is one the of reasons I sold my iBook.
Furthermore, you cannot connect the iBook to any current cinema display at all, for it does not support DVI-out, nor the resolutions of those displays.
Thanks guys , i think that im going to get the 12" powerbook after all.
I dont play many games at the moment bc this imac cant handle em ( 8mbVRAM and 350 MHZ processor) but if i wanted to play some , i think the powerbook would be a far better choice. especially fer the external display.
also , it probably would be more handy in a classroom then an ibook. and to think i would have gotten an ibook and gotten pretty pissed off at it..lol
I think this is better over-all , and probaly last alot longer without going out dated too. Hoepfully neway. lol.
thanks fer the help from all of yas.
I dont play many games at the moment bc this imac cant handle em ( 8mbVRAM and 350 MHZ processor) but if i wanted to play some , i think the powerbook would be a far better choice. especially fer the external display.
also , it probably would be more handy in a classroom then an ibook. and to think i would have gotten an ibook and gotten pretty pissed off at it..lol
I think this is better over-all , and probaly last alot longer without going out dated too. Hoepfully neway. lol.
thanks fer the help from all of yas.
powerbook911 said:Beleive me, this is one the of reasons I sold my iBook.
Furthermore, you cannot connect the iBook to any current cinema display at all, for it does not support DVI-out, nor the resolutions of those displays.
I'll take your word for it.....
powerbook
do u think they will have the powerbooks upgraded by september this year ? or even augest ?
do u think they will have the powerbooks upgraded by september this year ? or even augest ?
complete new mac person here
i'm completely new to macs, and from the way any of this is going to sound or be understoof, i seem to be completely new to computers too!
i can be a whiz when it comes to html and photoshop, but i have no idea what the hell is going on when it comes to hardware. i've been waiting for the new ibook to come out for some time, hopeing that i could get somthing with enough space to store my music and to work in photoshop. i also do a lot of digital photography and would like to keep raw files on my computer.
my thing is, i was planning on getting the new ibook and while i'm at home, hooking it up to the monitor i have on this current pc. from what i read, its either not possible... or not easy to do. idealy, i would have the lid closed on the ibook and have a monitor, keyboard, and mouse connected to it for at home use. does it stretch the pixels? do the colors come out fine? why is the power book a better bet then the ibook when it comes to this? do i need a VGA converter or somtihng or other? (mind you, i have no idea what a vga converter is... or what VGA is either...)
so if anyone can help, please do so! i have my hopes set on an ibook, mostly because of cost. when it boils down to it, if i absolutely must get a powerbook.. i may consider it.
i'm completely new to macs, and from the way any of this is going to sound or be understoof, i seem to be completely new to computers too!
i can be a whiz when it comes to html and photoshop, but i have no idea what the hell is going on when it comes to hardware. i've been waiting for the new ibook to come out for some time, hopeing that i could get somthing with enough space to store my music and to work in photoshop. i also do a lot of digital photography and would like to keep raw files on my computer.
my thing is, i was planning on getting the new ibook and while i'm at home, hooking it up to the monitor i have on this current pc. from what i read, its either not possible... or not easy to do. idealy, i would have the lid closed on the ibook and have a monitor, keyboard, and mouse connected to it for at home use. does it stretch the pixels? do the colors come out fine? why is the power book a better bet then the ibook when it comes to this? do i need a VGA converter or somtihng or other? (mind you, i have no idea what a vga converter is... or what VGA is either...)
so if anyone can help, please do so! i have my hopes set on an ibook, mostly because of cost. when it boils down to it, if i absolutely must get a powerbook.. i may consider it.
lorenzo said:
Consider a refurb PowerBook if your budget is tight. I did, and could'nt be happier! Plus, you'll be able to use your monitor while the PB is closed. This is standard in the PB line. iBs have to get modified for that.
Hope this helps!
lorenzo said:
The iBook has a VGA (external monitor) port, but the monitor will only mirror what is on the iBook screen. The Powerbook has a VGA port that can extend your desktop from the Powerbook to the external monitor (you can mouse your cursor between them) to give you more graphic area.
Get the refurb 12" Pbook.
lorenzo said:
What kind of external display do you own? What resolution does it support?
From the factory, the iBook will mirror its display on an external display via VGA. An adapter is included, so you can output to a VGA connector. This is included, in the box. Again, you will not be able to close the lid on the iBook, unless you use a hack, and even then the video ram is still divided between the two displays, and having only 16MB of VRAM on the external display is not very exciting, in my opinion. The hack will allow you to support higher resolutions than 1024x768, but again, being cut down to 16MB of VRAM makes some video-intensive tasks slow on the display.
If your external display is a small 15 inch display, with only 1024x768 resolution, then the iBook output will be fine (besides the fact you can't close the lid without the hack). If you want an external resolution higher than 1024x768 then you will have to use the hack, and you will see some performance hit.
The Powerbook allows you to run in closed-lid mode, and it supports resolutions up to that of the 23 inch cinema display. Furthermore, when you close the lid, it dedicates the full 64 or 128MB of VRAM to the external display, and the external display can be VGA, or DVI.
The Apple start page (apple.com/startpage) has a headline that goes "Did you get an iPod, then bought a Mac?" and sometimes right below shows the guy who built the Virgina Tech Mac supercomputer cluster. Like, did he get an iPod then buy 1000 Macs? You have to refresh a few times to get this weird juxtaposition.
Hmmm. Maybe I should just stop refreshing that page and read a book or something...
Hmmm. Maybe I should just stop refreshing that page and read a book or something...
what did you guys all pay for your refurbished powerbooks? where can i even start to look for one? perhaps on the mac site, it is probably somewhat hidden and i've yet to spend enough time looking.
my main reason for switching to a notebook, is because i have severe carpal tunnel and a notebook seems to the be only thing that can be as flexible as i need it to be.
my main reason for switching to a notebook, is because i have severe carpal tunnel and a notebook seems to the be only thing that can be as flexible as i need it to be.
lorenzo said:
yea man , i been doing the math , and the re-search fer like over a week now , everday , i had my hopes set on a ibook as well. theres no way u coulda talked me out of i t, but with the help wth the ppl onthis forum, i decieded not to get 1 . 1, u cannot have a decent external picture at all , 2 powerbooks are faster andd better for graphic demanding files such as photoshop like u suggested. ibook will run photoshop fine...but im sure powerbook will do it in a bit faser time with a better look. I went from a 14" ibook in mind to a 12 powerbook ,bc the better features with a PB and hopefully i will get that soon. they are a little costly , but , i look it at it like how long they would last. like mine , (bottom specs) still works fine and its 4 years old or more. its not like windows gotta get a new 1 every year. (pppeccc of crap) if using an external is important to you , than a powerbook is the way to go.You can mirror or extend ur entire desktop leaving u with alot of workspace to play with. and if money is an issue u can get away with a 12" , especialy if ur going to go external on it , newway hoped i helped even in the slightest , im fairly new to mac 2, but im lovin it
They can be found in the Apple Store, in the Special Deals section. There's an image of a red tag with the word "SAVE" on it in the lower-right portion of the main Apple Store page - that's the link you want to click. I would link there directly, but the Apple Store's design makes this impossible.lorenzo said:
Sometimes they get in at 2 a.m. and sometimes around 7 or 8 a.m.lorenzo said:
Other places to look for refurbs are smalldog.com and expercom.com.
2006 or 2007; whenever Apple puts something better in the PowerBooks, like a Blu-ray burner.genoveffa said: