iMac G5 Now Shipping

[bdrago]

I went through looking at 2 other machines only to find that they had between 4 and 8 stuck pixels as well. Then looking at a floor model I saw them on 17. I have really good eye sight and these are not very well lit up pixels but are unmistakably of the red blue and green variety. The interesting this is that they are virtually invisible on all but a black background AND NO ITS NOT DUST! I was using a pixel checker and know what I saw. Anyways the machine I am using now has about 4 stuck pixels however they are so faint that I can even see them unless staring directly at it under the lowest light and on a black background. If I move inches away its not even visible. So theres my rant and here come my pics!

Those aren't stuck pixels.

Here's an easy test - choose a dark/black background or screensaver, and turn your brightness all the way up. A blue or green pixel will be visible from several feet away. Red pixels are less noticeable, but should still be very obvious from 18-24 inches. These will be visible under normal office lightning - you will not need to turn off any lights.

You can use this app to help, but it's not really needed once you know what you're looking for.

I've been responsible for the LCD displays my company sells for the last five years, and I've seen hundreds of panels with stuck pixels. None of them were only visible from a few inches away like you describe.

If you use the app above, you'll see how "bright" the green pixels are. A stuck pixel would appear to be that color, not faint or dim as you describe.

 

[Doctor Q]

I am worried about hearing about all these dead pixels. My G4 FP had 2 of them. But the couple of post here say what 6-10 + What is Apples policy on dead pixels? I can't post a new thread on this board because I am too new. Can someone post a new thread about everyone to chime in how many dead pixels they are getting?

If you go to the search page and search "titles only" for keywords "dead pixels", you'll find lots of threads about this, such as How many dead pixels must one have to get a replacement?.

And new members are supposed to be able to start threads as well as post. If you still can't start a thread the next time you want to, PM me (or another moderator) with a description of what happens and we'll look into it further.

 

[Trekkie]

I am worried about hearing about all these dead pixels. My G4 FP had 2 of them. But the couple of post here say what 6-10 + What is Apples policy on dead pixels? I can't post a new thread on this board because I am too new. Can someone post a new thread about everyone to chime in how many dead pixels they are getting?

A quick search on Apple's support site lead me to this article but I seem to remember hearing something like 6 - 10 and how much you scream and yell.

Honestly the only dead pixel that woudl bother me is the one that is bright another color. So far in my life of LCDs I've not had one *knocks on wood*

 

[BigEvan23]

Those aren't stuck pixels.

Here's an easy test - choose a dark/black background or screensaver, and turn your brightness all the way up. A blue or green pixel will be visible from several feet away. Red pixels are less noticeable, but should still be very obvious from 18-24 inches. These will be visible under normal office lightning - you will not need to turn off any lights.

You can use this app to help, but it's not really needed once you know what you're looking for.

I've been responsible for the LCD displays my company sells for the last five years, and I've seen hundreds of panels with stuck pixels. None of them were only visible from a few inches away like you describe.

If you use the app above, you'll see how "bright" the green pixels are. A stuck pixel would appear to be that color, not faint or dim as you describe.

They are certainly stuck. I was using a pixel tester and they are only visible really up close. There are a few some are stuck red some blue and the most obvious to see are green. They are extremely faint. On my powerbook i have two stuck pixels and the red one is much brigther than the green one. I can't explain it but thats the way it is. On this 20 inch iMac its very difficult/nearly impossible unless under perfect conditions to see them but they are most certainly there. Even the apple "genious" said he never saw such faint stuck pixels and that its odd. Maybe because the resolution is so high and the number of total pixels is significantly greater, they look less obvious?

 

[BigEvan23]

Hey Klaus

Hi BigEvan23, congrats on your iMac, sorry to hear you had 20" stuck pixels, but nice of the store to let you pick from their stock.

Apparently they have a lot more initial stock than with the G5 2.5, I remember the apple stores only getting a couple each week.

Do you have any issues or problems with your 23"? There are lots of stories around, but I bet there are a couple of bad batches of screens.

thx man

No my 23 is perfect, thank god! These 20 inch imacs though...I dunno they seem to have a bunch albeit really faint ones. A normal desktop background thoroughly masks them however full black they become somewhat more noticible. Honestly, I feel like im taking crazy pills because so few people report pixel problems and it seems like I single handedly balance out the average!

 

[Voiteur]

FYI, speaking as someone whose employer has a computer manufacturing plant that is outside of the US and ships things into the US, and it always seems when the importance of the shipment is very high it gets stuck in customs some how.

And it's always just one shipment that gets flagged, not the entire order. They'll randomly grab boxes out of a pallette and go over them, not the whole order, so then you got some stuff stuck while the rest of the order goes through. It's very frustrating.

Yes, but that would go completely against FedEx's explanation that apple phoned them saying not to pick them up for 2 days. It also wouldn't explain 430 being held.

It seems more likely that Apple held these for some quality reason and they are using the customs thing as an excuse. I'm not saying things never get held up in customs, but when they are still at the factory?

 

[rdowns]

Well im typing on my new 20 inch iMac as we speak...and just got a nice xbench score to boot (not that xbench means anything but whatever). I was shocked at the amount of pixel problems my first machine had. Thankfully the roosevelt field store had 20 new 20's in stock this morning. I went through looking at 2 other machines only to find that they had between 4 and 8 stuck pixels as well. Then looking at a floor model I saw them on 17. I have really good eye sight and these are not very well lit up pixels but are unmistakably of the red blue and green variety. The interesting this is that they are virtually invisible on all but a black background AND NO ITS NOT DUST! I was using a pixel checker and know what I saw. Anyways the machine I am using now has about 4 stuck pixels however they are so faint that I can even see them unless staring directly at it under the lowest light and on a black background. If I move inches away its not even visible. So theres my rant and here come my pics!

20? Pretty tempted to cancel my BTO (20"/512MB/BT/AE) and go pick one up. I work a mile away from the store.

 

[nospleen]

20? Pretty tempted to cancel my BTO (20"/512MB/BT/AE) and go pick one up. I work a mile away from the store.

DO IT!!! That is what I did. Luckily I received my extra 1GB of ram yesterday, this baby flies!!

 

[KeareB]

DO IT!!! That is what I did. Luckily I received my extra 1GB of ram yesterday, this baby flies!!

I thought about it, but knew I would regret not having the built-in bluetooth and no wires.

 

[Trekkie]

Well dangit the iSight shipped so now the only thing left to ship is the iMac.

Sigh. Could be worse, it could be the 4 months I waited for my Canon D60 back in 2002. Heh. I was posting daily on dpreview.com foaming at the mouth going nuts waiting for it.

I'm so much in need of instant gratification some times it's not funny

 

[AndiePandie]

Well since your other stuff shipped maybe that means your iMac will ship soon! *positive thoughts.....positive thoughts.....*

 

[Cyclops]

So where are my new IMacs?

First timer here..

I received so much good info here that I felt I needed to offer up some of my own. My small buisness ordered 2 IMacs from the Apple online store the morning they announced them. As of this evening, I haven't been one of the lucky ones to get the 'your order has shipped' e-mail. Last check on the Apple 'order status' page... no change. Finally, the AMX has not been charged a penny.... yet. These were BTO's.

Here's my info: Ordered 8/31/04 - 7:13 AM PST.

20"/ 1.8 / 1 GB Ram (1 stick) / 160 GB HD / Airport Extreme / Bluetooth
17" / 1.8 1 GB Ram (1 stick) / 160 GB HD /AE / BT.

The Apple order status page is still saying on or before 9/29.

Anyway, I'll be patient, I'll only check my e-mail every 5 minutes.

 

[kjgnola]

Where's the Bluetooth?

Has anyone had a shipping notification sent for a BTO with Bluetooth?

 

[BigEvan23]

DONGLE?

For all those out there pining over internal bluetooth, is the dongle really that bad. I mean its barely noticible but for savings issues with the keyboard and mouse its a great deal. I already had the keyboard and mouse so for me the internal bt was not worth the risk of being unable to return the computer(which I had to do unfortunately) to my local store.

 

[kcmac]

I'm so much in need of instant gratification some times it's not funny

Admitting the problem is 90% of the cure.

It will be worth the wait. Congrats on the iSight. I need two of them myself.

 

[Finrock]

Anyway, I'll be patient, I'll only check my e-mail every 5 minutes.

You got me beat. I have Mail set to check every minute.

You know, I may just give up on the internal bluetooth and pick up a stock 20" at my Apple Store tomorrow. I'd lose out on the 250 GB drive too.

I'm so impatient.... and jealous

 

[Johnkb]

Quite a few pages back I wrote the following:

"A few posts back, someone mentioned the front being a little bit too reflective. Any other opinions on this? Also, so the speakers sound a good as the previous G4 imac speakers?"

Anyone have an opinion on this please?

 

[douglasio]

Quite a few pages back I wrote the following:

"A few posts back, someone mentioned the front being a little bit too reflective. Any other opinions on this? Also, so the speakers sound a good as the previous G4 imac speakers?"

Anyone have an opinion on this please?

What do you mean the "front" is too reflective? Is this in reference to the Screen or the actual part underneath the screen with the apple logo on it?

I don't have the oppurtunity to put the new iMac next to an old one, but the speakers are crisp and clean, though as expected, lacking slightly in bass.

 

[gimp999]

Anyone in the UK had their imac delivered yet ?

 

[jason3142]

Anyone in the UK had their imac delivered yet ?

Anyone in the UK had their imac delivered yet ?

Bournemouth UK

Ordered 08/09/04 (I know it was a late order I was on holiday ( )

Shipping on or before 06/10/04

1no. 17" and 2no. 20" all BTO

 

[RitchieDeMan]

Anyone in the UK had their imac delivered yet ?

Nope! I Ordered immediately after the Apple store reopened on 31st. Order still says "Open" due on or before 28th Sept.

20" BTO with all the wireless options.

I'm in no hurry, I can wait

 

[sbarr13]

To those of you who have received their 20 inch BTOs, exactly how early did you order on the 31ist? I ordered at 9:30 eastern, and thought that was pretty early, but my imac hasn't budged in China. Thanks.

 

[andyblac]

Nope! I Ordered immediately after the Apple store reopened on 31st. Order still says "Open" due on or before 28th Sept.

20" BTO with all the wireless options.

I'm in no hurry, I can wait

i can't !!!, will swap you your date for mine LOL 11 Oct

 

[Finrock]

So I have no idea whether or not to go with a stock 20" at my local Apple Store or sit and wait it out. The stock config won't have Bluetooth, the wireless keyboard/mouse and the 250 GB drive I ordered, but I could have it today.

Wonder how patient I should be

As if that's not the only thing, I'm still stuck on trying to figure out whether or not I should get two matching sticks of 512 MB or one 1 GB stick. Wonder how the performance will differ between a matched pair and a mismatched pair.

"On or before 10/01"

 

[andyblac]

As if that's not the only thing, I'm still stuck on trying to figure out whether or not I should get two matching sticks of 512 MB or one 1 GB stick. Wonder how the performance will differ between a matched pair and a mismatched pair.

"On or before 10/01"

i would for the 1GB stick, then when you want to add another 1GB you won't have to replace both sticks, cheaper