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Fredstar said:
Yo all,
I am a newly converted Mac user, well just bought a 12" G3 700 mhz ibook, nothing too flash but i love it for what it does, its battery life and portability and of course i much prefer the Panther platform to XP.
But i do need something with more power and the new imac G5 20" looks very attractive and i do want to get it. But here in the Uk the delivery time is back upto 2-3 weeks and reading some of your guys frustration i am getting concerned it will be more like a month or more and i am not really willing to wait that long for my computer.
I do have some extra funds so getting a new Powermac 1.8 ghz (single) and a new 20" display (or old 23" display) would be possible. i could even stretch to a dual 1.8 ghz and settle for an old 20" screen. Where do you guys think i should go? Are the new screens much better than the old ones? And for not that intense applications will i notice that much increase in power to a dual 1.8 ghz?
OR should i wait and get the 20" imac G5?
choices, choices! For the moment i won't be using that many hungry app's - iphoto/word/excel/browsing a bit of film editing/garageband, but in the future i can see myself using logic 7/maybe idvd and some kind of graphics program.
Would appreciate your guys views

Hi Fredstar. I would give the fact that you wish to get involved in more hefty graphics situations in the future a route to going down the Powermac line.

That's not to say that the iMac couldn't cope with it though but it seems like you wish to expand your system in the future and the iMac isn't the best machine to do this. For instance, you can't change the graphics card as it's on the main board (for ease of explanation), although this is the only major thing that you can't change. Adding other drives etc would be through firewire as there is only space for one inside the case and of course you can only stuff 1 G5 CPU into it.

That said though I have a 20" iMac G5 with 1GB Ram and the thing flies along compared to my Wintel box which was a 3Ghz/1GB/128mb GPU, which now has the glorious task of being placed in the garage and used as a digital media server. Coming myself from many years of PC's I am amazed at the streamlined nature of how the iMac works. A 64MB graphics card on a PC playing todays games has a few problems in keeping up but this spec iMac doesn't break into a sweat on most games and applications. Ok a 128mb card should have been the choice for Apple, but for me and what I use this for, mainly the computer that is, as Apple like to brand it as, at the centre of my digital life.

So in short, if you're going to be doing some heavy duty processing tasks and want expandability, go for the Powermac.

One thing I do find hard to get my head around is that Windows boxes are all about brute force to get the task done, whilst Apple goes about it in a nice elegant streamlined way. But I don't need to tell anyone on this forum that :)
 
typing this from my girlfriends new 20" imac. she loves it. i love it. everything seems fine so far. its nice to know i saved someone from the darkside. :cool:


FREDSTAR

20" imac with maxed out ram would be fine for graphics. AND if you really need to speed photoshop up you could do that with an array scratch disk. that really helps.

powermac single processor would do well cause you can upgrade the graphics card and have more memory along with a faster bus.

it really depends on what you want to do. i know from many years of experience that this imac could easily.......EASILY handle 500 meg files in photoshop....well i mean you'll have to wait for certain tasks but ive used lesser machines for professional projects most my mac life. however if you work under tight deadlines you'll want the fastest possible configuration you can afford....workstations never seems fast enough after six months anyway. once your use to the performance of one machine you want something faster.

the imac is a great machine.
 
Got em in Auckland

fastred said:
So... all those rumours about Apple Australia giving all the NZ orders to Aussies might be right after all! ;)

I ordered my 20" on 14 Sept .... still waiting...

Jeremy - Wellington, New Zealand

Hey Jeremy
TotallyMac in Auckland had them on the shelf last week for overnight delivery anywhere in NZ. I went in & bought off the shelf.
Tell Renaissance to hurry up & get some down to Magnum Mac wgtn (if that's where u ordered from...)
CU
 
Ouch!!!

Hannah said:
Well today is the day it's supposed to ship....

IMAC20/1.8G5/1GB/160G/SD/APX/BTWLKB/B ordered on Sept 8th. I am on my 4th OOB date and seriously fed up with the whole wait.

If it doesn't ship today I have to cancel because it won't arrive before I go away for 6 weeks.

My order status still shows OOB 23rd October so I don't hold out much hope.

Nearly 2 months hannah!!!
where abouts r u?
Its crazy that they think anyone will wait that long. Sure the products are great, but they are really pushing their luck....
Wish U Good luck anyway
 
macwiz said:
Nearly 2 months hannah!!!
where abouts r u?
Its crazy that they think anyone will wait that long. Sure the products are great, but they are really pushing their luck....
Wish U Good luck anyway


I'm in London. Phoned again this morning and was told that my order is on the highest priority possible (!) and the it 'should' ship in the next 2 to 3 working days.

It is now a race against time. If Apple can't guarantee that it arrives by Friday 19th I have to cancel. Regardless - I'm not going to have any chance to use it before it arrives as I go away until the new year. I loose both ways but not sure I can go through all this again :(
 
arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I dont' believe it - finally it has shipped. All that checking my order status every 5 minutes has paid off.

Now I can track....... :)
 
20" delivered!

I finallly received delivery this morning. Yeah! I ordered a built-to-order 20" iMac with Bluetooth installed (but standard keyboard) at a 512 MB RAM (single chip). I ordered it on the online Apple store on October 4th with an estimated ship date of November 3rd. It actually shipped on November 1st, and was in my hands this morning, November 5th. Here is my shipping history for folks trying to determine what theirs might look like:

Nov 4, 2004

6:09 am
On FedEx vehicle for delivery
HARAHAN LA

6:06 am
Arrived at FedEx Destination Location
HARAHAN LA

5:24 am
Left FedEx Ramp
KENNER LA

12:54 am
KENNER LA

Nov 3, 2004

3:53 pm
Held at Sort Facility
MEMPHIS TN

3:10 pm
Left FedEx Sort Facility
MEMPHIS TN

2:49 pm
Held at Sort Facility
MEMPHIS TN

10:00 am
Arrived at Sort Facility
MEMPHIS TN

2:52 am
Left FedEx Sort Facility
INDIANAPOLIS IN

Nov 2, 2004

3:19 pm
Left FedEx Sort Facility
ANCHORAGE AK

2:06 pm
Left FedEx Ramp
SHANGHAI CN

Nov 1, 2004

11:30 pm
Package status
SHANGHAI CN
Package in FedEx location

-Jeff
 
20" imac G5 vs. Dual G5 1.8 ghz

It is really between the two above now, I am going to Pcworld/John Lewis tomoz to have another quick look at both. I do love the imac but if only it didn't have that 64mb graphics card, i can see it being limiting for graphics programs and for games as i am a bit of a gamer - i do want to play Doom III. My philisophy at the moment is, since i can afford it, get a Dual processor as for years to come it will still be blummin' fast and be able to run any program. I can also next year upgrade to a beautiful 23" Apple screen.
 
Hannah said:
I dont' believe it - finally it has shipped. All that checking my order status every 5 minutes has paid off.

Now I can track....... :)

I'm very happy for you Hannah. Wishing is great joy and happiness.
 
Fredstar said:
It is really between the two above now, I am going to Pcworld/John Lewis tomoz to have another quick look at both. I do love the imac but if only it didn't have that 64mb graphics card, i can see it being limiting for graphics programs and for games as i am a bit of a gamer - i do want to play Doom III. My philisophy at the moment is, since i can afford it, get a Dual processor as for years to come it will still be blummin' fast and be able to run any program. I can also next year upgrade to a beautiful 23" Apple screen.


if you want to play games on a mac instead of a gaming system like the xbox then i would say get the tower. you have more control over updating the system....its a no brainer....if thats what you want. i use an xbox for games and have always been happy with it....and my mac.
 
Hannah said:
I dont' believe it - finally it has shipped. All that checking my order status every 5 minutes has paid off.

Now I can track....... :)

Yay! Congratulations Hannah :cool:

Tracking is the cool thing - much better than looking at 'order status : open' all day long :(
 
Completely the wrong place, i know, but a google search on apple shipping brought me here ;)

I ordered my iPod Photo here in the UK on tuesday - with a 1-2 Week Shipping time.

Anyway, tonight i was delighted to login and see it was shipped, It appears to be booked on a flight on Saturday, so hopefully ill get it some time next week! :)

06 nov 04 32 05 Flight Booked Apple, Shanghai
04 nov 04 30 60 departed from product source Kuehne & Nagel Shanghai
04 nov 04 05 00 boxes scanned Kuehne & Nagel Shanghai
04 nov 04 00 05 Data received from supplier Apple, Shanghai
04 nov 04 30 64 Departed from source Apple, Shanghai
 
20" BTO iMac has arrived!

Just checked FedEx. It was supposed to arrive tomorrow... and it arrived today. It looks like the FedEx driver left it with my neighbor. Unfortunately I have school tonight and won't be home until 10PM, but at least I know I will have it for the weekend.
 
Hi!
Complete Newbie to this site, but we hav a mac family here in sunny old england, and i need 2 ask y'all a question.
On my tracking at kuehne and nagel (courtesy of www.apecode.com/appletrack) my flight was booked on the 2nd november. Does this mean my iMac will be on the plane on the 2nd november or will it be a couple of days after. It has been two days since it was booked, and im wondering if you can give me any info on when it should arrive in Luxemborg.

Gratefully,

Jack
 
WooHoo

Hannah said:
I dont' believe it - finally it has shipped. All that checking my order status every 5 minutes has paid off.

Now I can track....... :)

Must've been my Good luck wish eh ;-)
Congratz
 
Jrules50 said:
Hi!
Complete Newbie to this site, but we hav a mac family here in sunny old england, and i need 2 ask y'all a question.
On my tracking at kuehne and nagel (courtesy of www.apecode.com/appletrack) my flight was booked on the 2nd november. Does this mean my iMac will be on the plane on the 2nd november or will it be a couple of days after. It has been two days since it was booked, and im wondering if you can give me any info on when it should arrive in Luxemborg.

Gratefully,

Jack

Jack,

it will have been on the plane on the 2nd, but mine tuck 4 days after to update, the site is very slow in updates, just to give you an idea of a time scale my filght was booked for the 28th Oct, the next update was 2nd nov for "accept scanned at EDC". and it has just left Holland Today (4th Nov.) should arrived in the UK tomorrow (5th Nov) it normaly gets delivered the next day after that, but as my next day is a saturday i will not have it untill Mon 8th Nov.

so you should have it in 7-9 days time.

hope this helps.

03 nov 04 90 75 truck arrived at final destination Apple Shanghai 28 okt 04
02 nov 04 30 10 departed direct KN Luxemburg
02 nov 04 40 69 accept scanned at EDC KN Luxemburg 28 okt 04
28 okt 04 32 55 flight departed Kuehne & Nagel Shanghai
28 okt 04 32 05 Flight Booked Kuehne & Nagel Shanghai
25 okt 04 86 06 shipment on hold due to cargo exceeding daily space allocation KN Luxemburg
23 okt 04 30 60 departed from product source Kuehne & Nagel Shanghai
23 okt 04 05 00 boxes scanned Kuehne & Nagel Shanghai
23 okt 04 30 64 Departed from source Apple Shanghai
23 okt 04 00 05 Data received from supplier Apple Shanghai
 
Finally the end is near

At last! I've finally received a shipping email from Apple, 6-7 days yipee, unfortunately I received another email that two of my other orders wont be shipping becuase they are no longer available, but who gives a **** I'm getting my iMac :) and after all it's only been 62 days so efficient Apple store UK :mad:
 
It's Here!

Well,

After EXACTLY one month, my new iMac made it to my house this morning. I had to take a sick day at work (cough) to set it up...the estimated delivery the Apple web site gave me was to the day.

Ordered 5 Oct, Delivered 4 Nov.

It's beautiful and fast...will be spending the rest of my evening importing songs and photos from my PC. :D
 
HydroMan said:
At last! I've finally received a shipping email from Apple, 6-7 days yipee, unfortunately I received another email that two of my other orders wont be shipping becuase they are no longer available, but who gives a **** I'm getting my iMac :) and after all it's only been 62 days so efficient Apple store UK :mad:
Even though I got another delayed shipping email yesterday giving a new OOB of November 10th, I also got the shipment email today! Looks like mine will be sharing your plane. :)


Andy.
 
Thanks andy, i still cant believe that it comes all the way from shanghai, and that its taking as long as it is. I guess i lucky tho, for my first ship date was the 15th of Nov, but i had first activity on the 28th of October. So a coupla more questions i only have my flight booked on the 28th, but on yours it says flight departed....unless it says it departed once it arrives....?!? Are you sure there is no actvity at all on saturdays, because i need my computer quite sooon...(im only 15, im still takin GCSE's) and ts quite a long way off apples estimated ship time of 7-9 days from the 28th of october. O well, i guess it'll arrive when it arrives.
Thanks again,

Jack
 
Hannah said:
Yeah – IMAC20/1.8G5/1GB/160G/SD/APX/BTWLKB/B ordered on Sept 8th.
I tried making a fuss a couple of weeks back - I was just told I was in the same boat as 'lots of other people' - maybe that's why they pushed me down the queue ? :(

i ordered mine on the 13th sept and at the moment it is in Northampton, so i should get it on Monday . :)

my mac was in Holland last Monday waiting for TNT (so apple said) so i phoned TNT and they said NOPE it's not. went back and forth between Apple & TNT for 3 days both blaming each other. so eventually TNT told be to get a CONSIGNMENT number from apple not the 80 ref number to prove that it is there. Apple said it will take 24 hours to get one. and the next day (yesterday 4th nov) got a phone call of TNT saying Apple has just dropped of your Parcel we will now bring it in the UK for Friday then to you on Monday.

the moral of the sorry is DO NOT BELIVE apple sales what they tell you.
 
I'm getting kind of tired of waiting. If it weren't for everyone on this forum saying how wonderful and worth the wait they are, I'd probably cancel and go buy a kick-ass Linux box.

I ordered around Oct 9th, and I've gotten three different dates so far. The last was Nov 3, and I haven't bothered to check back since.

*sigh* They better be worth the aggravation...
 
This is a joke

I ordered my 20" imac on the 10th of september and the sales guy can't even give me a status on where the hell the order is at. Is this for real? Surely he can find out what is going on? It's for a business and the wait is now beyond a joke. A friend of mine ordered from the same store the week before me and has had his for 3 and a half weeks? Why are these in such short supply? I'm in Sydney, Australia BTW. ANd how is it possible for people to be buying "off the shelf" when there are orders backlogged??
Apple - you suck dogz ballz!
 
Jrules50 said:
Thanks andy, i still cant believe that it comes all the way from shanghai, and that its taking as long as it is. I guess i lucky tho, for my first ship date was the 15th of Nov, but i had first activity on the 28th of October. So a coupla more questions i only have my flight booked on the 28th, but on yours it says flight departed....unless it says it departed once it arrives....?!? Are you sure there is no actvity at all on saturdays, because i need my computer quite sooon...(im only 15, im still takin GCSE's) and ts quite a long way off apples estimated ship time of 7-9 days from the 28th of october. O well, i guess it'll arrive when it arrives.
Thanks again,

Jack

If you look back through this thread there are complete explanations of what happens etc, but mine was booked on a flight on a Friday, it landed in Luxembourg on the Saturday, was roadfreighted to Flextronic in the Netherlands for Monday afternoon, by road to Arnhem (NL) which is TNT's massive Euro hub overnight for Tuesday Morning, airfreighted to East Midlands by the Wednesday morning, by road to Stansted through that evening then finally delivered to me the next afternoon.

Everyone is different, but as soon as it hits Arnhem, give it 3-4 days. You'll know when it's there as the TNT link becomes live by clicking the consignment number on the K&N screen. Also, phoning TNT gives a more accurate picture of where it is (only when it is in TNT's system though) as they have access to more comprehensive information (although the guy I spoke to didn't know what STN was, it is of course Stansted Aiport).

Hang on in there, it's worth it and you'll forget all about it when you open that big heavy box.
 
Andy_UK said:
If you look back through this thread there are complete explanations of what happens etc, but mine was booked on a flight on a Friday, it landed in Luxembourg on the Saturday, was roadfreighted to Flextronic in the Netherlands for Monday afternoon, by road to Arnhem (NL) which is TNT's massive Euro hub overnight for Tuesday Morning, airfreighted to East Midlands by the Wednesday morning, by road to Stansted through that evening then finally delivered to me the next afternoon.

Everyone is different, but as soon as it hits Arnhem, give it 3-4 days. You'll know when it's there as the TNT link becomes live by clicking the consignment number on the K&N screen. Also, phoning TNT gives a more accurate picture of where it is (only when it is in TNT's system though) as they have access to more comprehensive information (although the guy I spoke to didn't know what STN was, it is of course Stansted Aiport).

Hang on in there, it's worth it and you'll forget all about it when you open that big heavy box.

I'm afraid after waiting 63 days now my enthusiasm has wained to the point that I know that I will be in Warsaw when its supposed to delivered and I don't really care just as long as its delivered is all I care about
 
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