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Considering how hot my i7-7700K runs when all four cores and eight threads are pegged, I honestly wonder if the i7-8700K would really bench much better even with six cores and twelve threads.

Apple designed the Macs around 10nm, if not 8nm, which we should have had in 2016 and 2018, respectively, per Intel's original timelines released in 2014. Of course, we won't see 10nm really until late this year and probably not in volume until 2020. And 8nm? Who knows when.

And Apple wasn't alone, frankly. Our thin Dell and Lenovo laptops run their CPUs just as hot and their fans just as hard when pushed because they also aren't designed to cool the average TDPs Intel is pushing to get what performance gains they can from 14nm.

One point I am in complete agreement with is HDD-only needs to go. I'd love to see them dump Fusion, too, so they could re-work the cooling, but then we'd probably get the iMac Pro's cooling system which means no easily-user-replaceable RAM. But Fusion should really be 128GB across the board (1TB / 2TB / 3TB) like it was at launch.
 
My mid 2011 iMac died last week. The GPU of course. This would be the sixth time in twelve months I pulled her apart and baked the GPU to remelt its solder. Put her back together again, but nope, she’s dead, Jim.
Looked For the Zillionth time at the current iMac line up. No updates. Ah well might as well price it out anyway. AUD$950 for 32 GB of RAM! At least I don’t have to pay the Apple Tax and can install my own. Looked at processor options: what’s this? Seventh gen CPUs at current gen prices?

Disgusting.

My son is specking out a windows PC today. A nice project for him to build it before uni starts. It will do.

I suspect even if Tim Cook finds time in his very busy political schedule to finally get around to approving a new version for release it will just be a spec bump to an already out of date processor, or a redesign to make it impossible to even upgrade the RAM, and drop useful ports.
Everything about tim needs to be spec bumped. His attitude, his brain, his catch phrase “amazing” needs to be upgraded...unless it’s soldered.
 
If Apple's CEO is all about profits, then here's a thing: in 2010 I bought a near top-of-the-range 12-core Mac Pro and a Cinema Display. I dropped a shedload of cash on it, and it's been brilliant ever since. But about three to four years in I figured it was about time for an upgrade. I would have given Apple more cash, but there was no new Mac Pro worth buying. That cost Apple several thousand dollars. Then another three or four years after that I may well have upgraded again – and maybe updated my display. Nope, no new kit. So there's another couple of thousand dollars gone begging. My Mac Pro is now nine years old and Apple STILL doesn't have a machine I want to upgrade to. I've changed phones only twice in that time, to the tune of a maybe a thousand dollars.

2019 marks the limit of my patience. Either the new Mac Pro is worth buying or I'll give my money to Strongbox – a small UK company that makes killer, multi-GPU PCs. And that will be MANY thousands of dollars Apple doesn't get. Again.
Tim Cook’s excuse will be that nobody is interested in computers anymore or blame the economics or even worse... blaming the brexit for the higher prices (which didn’t even occur yet, lol).

Most of apple’s products are following the same route as the all Apple products these days. What on earth is going on at Apple....
 
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Apple stopped being a computer company A LONG TIME AGO. Remember when that overrated salesman/neglectful father Steve Jobs dropped "Computer" from Apple Computer? He depreciated Final Cut, Aperture, iMovie, Pages. Tim Cook and Sir Jony Ive are merely fulfilling Steve Jobs's vision. But most people have long known that if you want a REAL computer to do REAL work, nothing beats a Windows PC. Having a device with the Apple logo no longer carries social currency. As I have long known being the smart cookie that I am, the iPod would usher in the death of Apple. One time, Apple sorta kinda maybe made good computer-like things. Now it's nothing more than Fisher-Price.
Surely you meant iPad, not iPod.
And what is REAL work? Is it GAMING?
 
What is a 1950 hard drive? :rolleyes:


Ah, those were the good old days. :D (...says a man born in the 1980's.)

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I remembered one special MLK’s speech in regards to mac computers: “i have a dream that one day imac and mac pro units will come out after apple figures out how to prevent people from upgrading and when it hits 3000 days.”

MLK is a visionary...he knew when mac pro will come out.
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This is all part of Apple's long term strategy to phase out the Mac line entirely (and lure buyers over to their iToy line).
Apparently so. Thin us out like dead ants.
 
Surely you meant iPad, not iPod.
And what is REAL work? Is it GAMING?

No, I meant the iPod, that overpriced stupid toy MP3 player. Let's not forget MacRumors' reaction to the original iPod. You mocked us. In the end we got the last laugh. WHERE IS THE iPOD NOW? Exactly. It was garbage. I knew it would make Apple lose sight on its computer business and instead focus on gimmicks and toys: iPhone, Apple Watch, iPad, AirPods.

And if you're a professional video game streamer on Twitch, you couldn't do that on an iMac. ANY work you do on a Mac can be done on a PC, but not the other way around. The PC dominates when it comes to productivity AND play. Macs are for people who want attention. For CHRISSAKES, Macs don't even have a right-click! WHY? Because the marketing guy Steve Jobs thought a TWO-button mouse was too "complicated." Shows you what he thought of the average Mac user.
 
Everything about tim needs to be spec bumped. His attitude, his brain, his catch phrase “amazing” needs to be upgraded...unless it’s soldered.

As he is in the habit of removing more than adding, I'd like him to remove that terribly annoying fake "pray" hand gesture that he did continuously during his most recent keynote. What the heck is that all about? As if these post-Jobs keynotes aren't cringeworthy enough already.
 
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As noted in the MacRumors Buyer's Guide and discussed in the MacRumors forums, it has now been 602 days since Apple last updated its iMac lineup, a new record for the longest span between iMac refreshes ever. The previous record was 601 days between October 2015 and June 2017 refreshes.

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In fairness, the iMac Pro was released in December 2017, but standard 21.5-inch and 27-inch iMac models have not been updated in over a year and a half. Since the original iMac launched in 1998, the computer has typically been updated at least once per year, with the sole exceptions being 2016 and 2018.

The iMac is not alone. The 12-inch MacBook and Mac Pro have also set record-long spans of 602 days and 1,866 days and counting respectively since their last refreshes. Apple has at least promised to release an all-new Mac Pro with a "modular" design at some point in 2019, but has yet to share additional details.

As for the iMac and MacBook, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said Apple was likely to debut refreshed models at its October 2018 event, but only the MacBook Air and Mac mini were updated. Kuo expects both the iMac and MacBook lines to receive faster processors, and the iMac to receive "significant" display improvements.

Apple has hosted a March event in three out of the past four years, so perhaps we'll see new iMacs and MacBooks at a March 2019 event. Other items on the agenda could include new iPad and iPad mini models, a new iPod touch, new AirPods, and the long-awaited AirPower mat if production rumors were true.

Article Link: iMac Last Updated 602 Days Ago, Longest Span Ever Between Updates
The lack of updates shows that
 
The lack of updates... relatively simple ones like the later model CPUs and SSDs and adding another TB3 controller and maybe 2 more Type-C ports would have forestalled setting this record which is nothing but a blot on Apple no matter how some may try to spin it. If they just made the SSD user replaceable that would have garnered a lot of praise. Simple things, relatively easy to execute I am thinking. Good press and revitalization of the iMac. If they just had a GPU with 5% more processing power... say activating another compute unit. Time will tell. Even a price drop would have been something. it was a marketing mistake to break the record and a dark spot on Apple's reputation.
 
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the biggest crime is STILL selling 600 days old computer at the same price...

That's because Apple doesn't respect consumers.
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a dark spot on Apple's reputation.

Apple's made it a habit of having black spots on it's reputation for a long time now. I'm surprised apple consumers haven't given them hell over the disrespect they've gotten from Apple. I wonder why?
 
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