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I'm really liking that purple color in the picture.

I really like how the S8 feels, a friend of mine in my D&D group has one, we've been comparing phones and we both like what we both have (he as the aforementioned S8 and I have an iPX).
 
One thing I definitely feel - that back fingerprint reader wasn't moved down far enough.
 
Stunning.

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I can give you a quick example before I go to sleep. Apps opening slower in iOS 11 than in iOS 10. And I don’t even just mean “upgrade your phone from 10 to 11 and see it open things slower”. I mean compare an iPhone 7+ on iOS 10 to an iPhone X running iOS 11.

I also get more animation stutters than on Android, but that’s because whenever I pick up an Android Phone I turn those things off. So obviously no animations stutter less than overly long ones.

Oh, also, never said the other things were perfect. Just said iOS 11 is bad. Even Apple knows it.
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You’re right. It is totally blowing it out of proportions to expect an iPhone with a 2X processor to actually work better than a Pixel 2XL with the 835. My bad.

If iOS 11 is "bad" Apple would be toast. While I appreciate your sentiment that makes your issues with sound EPIC -- what you described hardly in my opinion paint a picture of disastrous. And -- this is YOUR experience -- not MY experience. Yes, there were reported issues in earlier versions for some users but you do *realize* that the install base on iOS11 globally is now in the hundreds of millions of users -- so I beg to disagree with your personal experience being used to describe the "norm".

Btw -- since you admit owning a vast variety of Android's vs iPhones its a bit of a stretch to trust that your particular Androids are software trouble free, especially since most of us know that the devices you highlight owning may not even carry updated software versions themselves -- shooting holes in your story singling out Apple's iOS 11.

Hey -- I am not defending iOS as a whole except to say ALL smartphones software interactions have KNOWN issues, and Apple has more or less stepped up and issued fixes, albeit many this time around, but regardless, it should be noted that bugs are addressed, and updates are routinely offered -- FREE of charge and easy to do -- OTA -- and you fail to point out that a HUGE issue for many Android owners is the hassle or pure lack of access to a simple update.

That matters.
 
If iOS 11 is "bad" Apple would be toast. While I appreciate your sentiment that makes your issues with sound EPIC -- what you described hardly in my opinion paint a picture of disastrous. And -- this is YOUR experience -- not MY experience. Yes, there were reported issues in earlier versions for some users but you do *realize* that the install base on iOS11 globally is now in the hundreds of millions of users -- so I beg to disagree with your personal experience being used to describe the "norm".

Btw -- since you admit owning a vast variety of Android's vs iPhones its a bit of a stretch to trust that your particular Androids are software trouble free, especially since most of us know that the devices you highlight owning may not even carry updated software versions themselves -- shooting holes in your story singling out Apple's iOS 11.

Hey -- I am not defending iOS as a whole except to say ALL smartphones software interactions have KNOWN issues, and Apple has more or less stepped up and issued fixes, albeit many this time around, but regardless, it should be noted that bugs are addressed, and updates are routinely offered -- FREE of charge and easy to do -- OTA -- and you fail to point out that a HUGE issue for many Android owners is the hassle or pure lack of access to a simple update.

That matters.

All software has issues. I’m simply saying Oreo is a better software update than iOS 11. Also, I buy a lot of phones period. I’ve bought every plus model phone and the X.
 
I guess you are on a very minority. I have seen Note users that did't even know it is there.
For me Steve Jobs was right. The best pen is the one you have always with you. Pen for me would get lost in the first week and if I have to be honest I don't know why I would use it instead of using just the finger. It have worked great for me since 2007.
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I tend to doubt that there are many Note 8 owners who do not know the pen is there. As for the risk of losing it, the pen has a dedicated slot and the phone warns you when you walk off without the pen in the slot. Finally, the finger is nowhere near as precise as the S-Pen. And the S-pen has several features and uses beyond writing. Your post suggests that you are coming to conclusions based on only a partial understanding of the s-pen. A lot has changed since 2007 (11 years ago!). The finger is old technology, and I do believe Steve would have embraced the pen with all of the advances in recent years. It is a serious enhancement to smartphone usefulness and functionality.
 
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And I would choose that Apple design over Samsung’s curved screens any day... those curved screens are just utterly pointless for videos and pictures. The iPhone X and Pixel 2 XL designs make much more sense.
In fact the X has the notch, so yeah let’s just say the 2 XL has the most sensible and practical design.

I like the iPhone design as well. It's just funny watching Apple fans complain about a phone having a similar design 2 years in a row when every phone Apple sells with the exception of the X has basically the identical design from 2012 or 2014.

iPhone SE -> iPhone 5s -> iPhone 5 (2012)

iPhone 8 -> iPhone 7 -> iPhone 6s -> iPhone 6 (2014)
 
As opposed to forced battery obsolescence and a phone that won't actually allow you to answer calls ;)

You mean something that occurs in every phone, and an issue that gives new meaning to the word ‘rare’? It’s so trendy to focus on the tall poppy, though, isn’t it?
 
When you don't understand how things work, you better keep your mouth shut.

Lol what an argument! What else do they teach you at kindergarten these days? Tell me more!
The point is landing pages, annoying public WIFIs, or temporary router/connection issues. There is, however, no point in offering a quick access option to turn off WIFI completely (you can still do it via Settings).

Oh yes there is, known as battery life, Apple could have easily done something like
short tap - disconnect
long tap - turn off

but yeah, it's Apple...
 
I tend to doubt that there are many Note 8 owners who do not know the pen is there. As for the risk of losing it, the pen has a dedicated slot and the phone warns you when you walk off without the pen in the slot. Finally, the finger is nowhere near as precise as the S-Pen. And the S-pen has several features and uses beyond writing. Your post suggests that you are coming to conclusions based on only a partial understanding of the s-pen. A lot has changed since 2007 (11 years ago!). The finger is old technology, and I do believe Steve would have embraced the pen with all of the advances in recent years. It is a serious enhancement to smartphone usefulness and functionality.

The finger works pretty darn accurate for me and for what I do, regardless of being on iPad or iPhone. Same on Galaxy S8. Now If I was into drawing/3D design and all that kind of arty stuff then yes, I think I would probably need the pen. Also, if Apple ever released an Final Cut Pro X for iPad, I think I would find a use for a pen.
But man, don't I find it funny when Note users show off themselves taking a handwriting note using that pen as thought swipe keyboards aren't so much faster? But each to their own I guess. As far as I know, it is only Samsung that does a smartphone with a pen, and I personally don't see it being followed by any other company, particularly Apple.
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It's just funny watching Apple fans complain about a phone having a similar design 2 years in a row when every phone Apple sells with the exception of the X has basically the identical design from 2012 or 2014.

I am Apple fan and I did hate the fact that Apple did not change the design of the phone since iPhone 6. That's why last year I wen't for a Galaxy S8. I have done the same when Apple was stuck using smaller displays on an iPhone. I am Apple fan but if Apple stays stagnant I give my cash to some other company. And when they improve I get back.
 
Ultimately, Samsung religionists will adore it, Apple religionists will think it's the devil's handset. Everyone else will see it as a phone, which these days, categorically, are simultaneously ordinary and over-the-top. Does not matter what logo is stamped on it. Reminds me of the last years of Detroit's tailfin-era -- I wasn't there, I'm not *that* old, but I do love vintage cars (or at least pre-early 70's).

It's no wonder cell phones as a category are in a slump. Just making the fins/camera/screen bigger or broader every year loses it's appeal after awhile. I have an X. Enjoy it, no regrets. Has it changed my life or tapped my imigination the way the first iPhone models did? Nope. To paraphrase The Who's "New Song," phones today are same old song with a few new words. It's all very rote now. Commodities, all of them.

Its hilarious and sad at the same time to see people in here complaining about phone designs and ridiculous things like a tiny sliver of a bezel. The way things are trending every single phone on the market is going to look like this:

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How the hell do you make a phone more unique or trendy after that? Not allowed to have a bezel anymore, not allowed to have camera bumps anymore, LEDs and fingerprint scanners have to be in certain places... Do people realize these dumb fashion standards they're pushing for devices is going to make every single device on the market the same?

Performance is no longer an issue, every flagship from every company is amazing tech that will hold up for years. Software is as close to equal as it's ever been (yes blind haters, believe it or not Android is a great OS now, you can retire your Lollipop era bloat jokes - they are more outdated than bezels)

Design is all thats left to differentiate phones and everybody wants them to look the same... lol

What will fanboys complain about then?
 
But man, don't I find it funny when Note users show off themselves taking a handwriting note using that pen as thought swipe keyboards aren't so much faster?

Very true if we're talking about using the pen for everything. For me, the lure of the pen is the lock screen note taking (which I use several times per week), as well as the other functions (capturing partial screen images, screen writing, and navigating when my fingers are wet or greasy (sunscreen e.g.), or when I am wearing gloves). I never use the Note 8 pen for day to day note taking or general use. However, it's a different story on my Tab S3 where I use my S-Pen all day long for taking notes at work and at meetings. I much prefer handwriting over typing or swiping so that I can highlight, star, underline, circle, etc. Samsung has done an amazing job with palm rejection and the s-pen has very low latency.

Much like Steve Jobs created things I did know I needed, I never knew I needed the S-Pen, but it has become a mainstay for me for sure. It's become so fundamental to my use of smart devices that I would feel like I lost a figurative electronics limb if Samsung ever killed the pen.
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Its hilarious and sad at the same time to see people in here complaining about phone designs and ridiculous things like a tiny sliver of a bezel. The way things are trending every single phone on the market is going to look like this:

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How the hell do you make a phone more unique or trendy after that? Not allowed to have a bezel anymore, not allowed to have camera bumps anymore, LEDs and fingerprint scanners have to be in certain places... Do people realize these dumb fashion standards they're pushing for devices is going to make every single device on the market the same?

Performance is no longer an issue, every flagship from every company is amazing tech that will hold up for years. Software is as close to equal as it's ever been (yes blind haters, believe it or not Android is a great OS now, you can retire your Lollipop era bloat jokes - they are more outdated than bezels)

Design is all thats left to differentiate phones and everybody wants them to look the same... lol

What will fanboys complain about then?

Yay, finally someone talking sense around here! :)
 
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Like switching to OLED? Like having face ID? Like having a flush mount camera? Like having a pen that doesn't requiring an accompanying tablet?

How Apple FBs get away w/ perpetuating obvious myths is irritatingly fascinating. May as well say a grape is orange in colour (w/ Samsung being the orange grape).

I had a Samsung. A Note 4. What a piece of crap. Couldn't wait to go back to a superior phone. Hey, some people like Samsung products. Fine by me. I'll stick with my Apple gadgets. Have a nice day.
 
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I had a Samsung. A Note 4. What a piece of crap. Couldn't wait to go back to a superior phone. Hey, some people like Samsung products. Fine by me. I'll stick with my Apple gadgets. Have a nice day.

It's not 2014 anymore, and that generation of Samsung/Android is not representative of modern models. Blindly writing off a brand forever based on a poor experience years ago is like someone saying they hate Windows because Vista sucked lol.
 
It's not 2014 anymore, and that generation of Samsung/Android is not representative of modern models. Blindly writing off a brand forever based on a poor experience years ago is like someone saying they hate Windows because Vista sucked lol.

I didn't say I hate it. I said I'm happy with my iPhone. If you can't see from the article that Samsung is trying to catch up with the Apple, I just don't know what to say. I do however HATE Windows. As far as I'm concerned it's a virus, and I use it 8 hours every day. They really haven't improved much since Vista, in my view. But yeah, lot's of people like Samsung's gear and as I said, I'm fine with that. It's not personal. It's just a gadget.
 



Samsung is planning to unveil its next-generation smartphones, the Galaxy S9 and S9+, at an event that's set to take place at Mobile World Congress on February 25, but ahead of that date, several images have leaked depicting the South Korean company's new flagship device.

Noted leaker Evan Blass, aka @evleaks, has shared several renders of the new Samsung Galaxy S9 and S9+ on Twitter, along with details about what to expect from the device that will compete directly with Apple's own iPhone X.

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Galaxy S9
Samsung's two new smartphones will continue to use the same general design as the Galaxy S8 devices, with slim bezels and a near edge-to-edge Super AMOLED display. Unlike the iPhone X, the S9 and S9+ have black bars at the top and bottom of the device, with the top bar housing components like the camera and the microphone.

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Galaxy S9+
The larger of the two devices, the Galaxy S9+, features a new vertical dual camera design at the back of the phone, similar to the iPhone X. Samsung's invite for its February 25 event suggested camera improvements will be a main focal point for the two new flagship devices.

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Rumors suggest the Galaxy S9 will feature a single 12-megapixel camera with variable aperture from f/1.5 to f/2.4, while the S9+ will feature the same variable aperture 12-megapixel camera paired with a second 12-megapixel camera with a fixed aperture.

Samsung isn't ready to introduce a robust Face ID-style feature in its smartphones (but it will continue to offer less secure iris scanning and facial recognition as options), so the Galaxy S9 and S9+ will feature fingerprint sensors located at the back of the devices. Samsung has, however, repositioned the fingerprint sensor on both devices to below the camera instead of to the right of it.


Samsung plans to offer its Galaxy S9 and S9+ in Midnight Black, Lilac Purple, Titanium Gray, and Coral Blue. The Samsung Galaxy S9 will measure in at 5.8 inches like the iPhone X, while the S9+ will measure in at 6.2 inches. Android Central has additional details about Samsung's upcoming S9 and S9+ for those who are curious about what to expect to see in the devices that will directly compete with the iPhone X.

Article Link: Images of Samsung's Galaxy S9 Leak Ahead of Rumored February Unveiling

STILL HIDEOUS!

And of course Sam(e)sung needed to reposition the camera to match the latest iphone.
 
"Real estate for apps"?

LOL... you have to be kidding me. The notch was an ugly-ass design choice. There is no "real estate for apps" in those cat ears.

Right, there's no app real estate in the ears--there's more app real estate in the rest of the screen because info that used to be on the 'main' part of the screen is now located on the ears.

Surely you see that information that used to take up part of the screen is now located in a previously unusable area?
 
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