Inaugural Summer PowerPC Challenge! July 1-8, 2017

[Liggysmalls]

Running a little bit behind on my updates, I wanted to grab a screenshot of some video playback and forgot to do it at least 10 times. I just uploaded a new post for day 2 of the challenge, complete with some YouTube playback via VLC. Things have been going great and I am having a wonderful time.

 

[amagichnich]

Tried to get some files from ms onedrive... poor Powerbook... Microsoft should stand trial in The Hague for violating the convention of PPCs rights! It feels like the whole onedrive thing is one massive script trying to kill my PB. Shame on you Microsoft. Maybe I have to fully migrate to Owncloud at last (has webdav support)

 

[eyoungren]

Tried to get some files from ms onedrive... poor Powerbook... Microsoft should stand trial on Den Haag for violating the convention of PPCs right! It feels like the whole onedrive thing is one massive script trying to kill my PB. Shame on you Microsoft. Maybe I have to migrate to Gdrive or something alike

Dropbox works.

 

[amagichnich]

Dropbox works.

It does indeed. But after every startup I have to wait for it so synch 10 minutes. That's not very useful for me as I shut down very often to save battery on the go

 

[pet84rik]

Google Drive is super slow as well, so.. Even a simple downloading in TenFourFox on my 400MHZ PowerMac G4 is limited because of 100 percent usage of CPU :-D

 

[eyoungren]

It does indeed. But after every startup I have to wait for it so synch 10 minutes. That's not very useful for me as I shut down very often to save battery on the go

What are your bandwidth settings?

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Google Drive is super slow as well, so.. Even a simple downloading in TenFourFox on my 400MHZ PowerMac G4 is limited because of 100 percent usage of CPU :-D

This is where uMatrix limiting the unnecessary javascript that Google uses can be of benefit.

NoScript even.

Allowing everything Google calls for on a webpage to execute is just nuts…and results in what you have going on.

 

[ApplesDotCom101]

Day 1: I packed away my Main PC, 2006 iMac and my 2006 Mac book pro, plugged in my Dual 1.8 G5, 500mhz and 400mhz G4's, Upgraded from a 80GB HDD to 160GB and added a 1TB WD storage drive in the G5, did a fresh install of Tiger on the G5. I tried out the QuickTime Enabler Plugin and it works VERY well with my G5 (watching 1080p), my G4's lag watching videos but that guessed that would happen. I also dug out my 2 game boy colors and played Pokemon yellow!



Day 2 & 3: Didn't get to use my macs at all.

Day 4/today (so far): I forgot to add my iTunes to my G5 so i had to get my iTunes off the iMac. Watch some youtube off my G5, gonna install iLife "06 and iWork "09!



ApplesDotCom101 Out!

 

[lhn555]

Okay, I have qemu working now. I know how to create an image for the disk, how to start the machine, etc. but I'm not really sure how to get networking working when I'm using a G5 as the host (or in general really, I don't use qemu often). Does anyone know? I tried googling but I don't think many people use qemu with a powerpc host. Should I just use -net nic,model=rtl8139?
Also, when I start the guest I get this in the Terminal:
(process:41957): GLib-WARNING **: gmem.c:483: custom memory allocation vtable not supported

And the guest freezes at SeaBIOS (version rel-1.8.2-0-g33fbe13 by qemu-project.org) with a beachball.

 

[eyoungren]

Day 2865 (October 29, 2009) PowerBook G4 Titanium 400 died today. Logicboard gave out in the morning. Suffering with a PC for the time being.

Day 2921 (December 24, 2009) 17" PowerBook G4 arrived today!

Day 2985 (February 26, 2010) Won the auction for my 17" 1.67Ghz HD-DLSD.

Day 2997 (March 10, 2010) New logicboard for TiBook 400 swapped in!

Day 3547 (September 11, 2011) Since the last post, I have replaced the screen on the 1Ghz 17" PB since it was not only the LVDS cable, but the screen that went bad too. I have replaced the DC Inverter board (1Ghz 17" PB) because the Mac was no longer charging. And
Several months ago my daughter decided to send the TiBook flying off the coach. It hit flat on the carpet but my wife started experiencing freezes. So, I had to put the Mac out of commission. It would only boot in safe mode. About a month ago I bought her a 1Ghz 12" PB off eBay. Screen was broken (this poor Mac had rolled down a flight of stairs), so I also bought a used replacment screen. I swapped it out, broke a few parts and replaced those. Getting to the inside of a 12" PB is MUCH more difficult and much more delicate. Anyway, she has a completely function 12" PB with max Ram (1.25GB) now.
Today, I decided to try one last crack at the TiBook before selling it for parts on eBay. Got it working! I don't know why, but there are some ATI/NVDIA drivers that the Mac was choking on when loading. Since those don't load in safe mode that's why the Mac was booting in Safe Mode. Also, safe mode or not, whenever I closed the lid I had an instant freeze. Now, I understand when you close the lid on a Mac laptop the OS writes to the hard drive everything that's in memory. No idea what's going on there with the TiBook when I close the lid, but I disabled this feature (it's called Safe Sleep) by issuing two terminal commands that someone with a MacBook had done because they had the same problem. Well, now the Mac goes to sleep on lid close, just like it's supposed to and no freeze.
So, now I have three Powerbooks!

Day 3693 (February 4, 2012) Well, the continuing saga of the undead TiBook 400 continues. It *died* again on Thursday night. So, I guess that makes three times now. I had my daughter using it for kid games. She wanted to play something else. The Mac was responsive, but would not quit the game, so I shut it down. Rebooted and got a gray screen with the Apple logo and no gear. Restarted again and all I got that time was the original OS9 gray screen. No boot. So, I declared it dead. But, it doesn't end there.
Today I won another Mac on eBay. $24.33 and $14.99 shipping. This Mac is a 1GHZ Titanum with 1GB ram. The LCD is broken off the hinges and doesn't work. But the Mac is working. It's coming with no harddrive. My plan is to take the broken screen off and replace it with the good one on my TiBook 400. The one I just bought is also missing screws so I will use the ones from my 400 and will also drop in the hard drive from my 400. That should give me a good 1GHZ Titanium that I can upgrade to Leopard. My son will get this Mac and my daughter will get his iBook.
Kind of funny because the only difference between this new Mac and my 17" 1GHZ Mac is the physical size, screen resolution and max ram. The new Mac also has an ATI Radeon 9000 with 64MB of VRAM and a Superdrive (DVD and CD R/W). My son is basically getting a rocket.
Not bad. $40 (rounded up) for a machine that was originally $3000!

A few days out of the (life) challenge so far…

http://forums.quark.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=65&p=439

 

[Lastic]

Okay, I have qemu working now. I know how to create an image for the disk, how to start the machine, etc. but I'm not really sure how to get networking working when I'm using a G5 as the host (or in general really, I don't use qemu often). Does anyone know? I tried googling but I don't think many people use qemu with a powerpc host. Should I just use -net nic,model=rtl8139?
Also, when I start the guest I get this in the Terminal:
(process:41957): GLib-WARNING **: gmem.c:483: custom memory allocation vtable not supported

And the guest freezes at SeaBIOS (version rel-1.8.2-0-g33fbe13 by qemu-project.org) with a beachball.

Have a look here, this will allow your guest to be reachable

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/qemu-on-os-x-10-5-running-linux-guest-with-networking.1974866/

What qemu command are you running and what OS are you trying to run as a virtual machine ?

 

[lhn555]

Have a look here, this will allow your guest to be reachable

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/qemu-on-os-x-10-5-running-linux-guest-with-networking.1974866/

What qemu command are you running and what OS are you trying to run as a virtual machine ?

qemu-system-i386 -boot d -hda disk.qcow2 -m 512M -drive file=mini.iso,media=cdrom
(mini.iso is the ubuntu netinstall cd, I know I don't have networking set up for the vm but I just wanted to see if I could get anything to boot at all...)
I've tried to use a windows xp install CD as well, I've gotten the furthest with it. I got it to where it says "Setup is inspecting your computer's hardware configuration" before it froze. Every time but that time it hangs at the seabios screen.

 

[xdanieldzd]

Starting to wonder if I'm the wrong person for this challenge, as I'm not really doing any interesting things, and if my OS X installation is broken in some way, but more on that in a bit.

Well, July 3rd and 4th. Aside from the already mentioned web browsing and 360p/480p YouTube, I tried a couple of emulators: mainly Genesis Plus v1.2.5 for Mega Drive/Genesis games, Snes9x v1.43 and v1.53 for Super Nintendo, and sixtyforce v0.9.5b1 and Mupen64 v0.3 for Nintendo 64. The 16-bit system emulators all work pretty well, with smaller hiccups, while the performance of both N64 emulators is rather subpar and not very playable.

These emulators are what had me wondering about my OS X install. I know you can't directly compare a PowerPC at clockspeed X with an x86 CPU at the same speed, but I would've expected a 1.6 GHz G4 (albeit without an L3 cache) with a Radeon 9800 Pro video card to be able to pull off better framerates in N64 games than what I'm seeing, with ex. Zelda Ocarina of Time running at around half speed in Mupen64. In addition, if I remember correctly, others on the forums have been able to watch 720p video using CorePlayer on machines with similar CPUs to mine, while I'm getting stuttering and visual glitches.

Can anyone chime in and confirm that either the performance I'm getting in more demanding applications is to be expected for my machine, or that something might be wrong with its hardware or software? Also, are there any other emulators for the mentioned systems, compatible with Leopard on PPC, that might be faster and/or more recent than the ones I tried?

 

[Lastic]

qemu-system-i386 -boot d -hda disk.qcow2 -m 512M -drive file=mini.iso,media=cdrom
(mini.iso is the ubuntu netinstall cd, I know I don't have networking set up for the vm but I just wanted to see if I could get anything to boot at all...)
I've tried to use a windows xp install CD as well, I've gotten the furthest with it. I got it to where it says "Setup is inspecting your computer's hardware configuration" before it froze. Every time but that time it hangs at the seabios screen.

Sorry for the late reply, your reply came when I started working 13 hours and then it's x86_64 for the entire day.

I downloaded the debian9 netinstall iso here
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-9.0.0-i386-netinst.iso
since I didn't know which Ubuntu version you were trying.

Then
snelboek:~ uz3r$ qemu-img create -f qcow2 debian9.qcow2 8G
Formatting 'debian9.qcow2', fmt=qcow2 size=8589934592 encryption=off cluster_size=65536 lazy_refcounts=off
snelboek:~ uz3r$ qemu-system-i386 -version

(process:283): GLib-WARNING **: gmem.c:483: custom memory allocation vtable not supported
QEMU emulator version 2.2.0, Copyright (c) 2003-2008 Fabrice Bellard

Then booted the iso (remember I have the tuntap drivers installed already)

snelboek:~ uz3r$ sudo -i
snelboek:~ root# cd /Users/uz3r/
snelboek:uz3r root# qemu-system-i386 -boot d -hda debian9.qcow2 -cdrom Downloads/debian-9.0.0-i386-netinst.iso -m 512M -net nic -net tap,script=no,downscript=no

I get the Seabios screen , loading cdrom and then

Chose Install , then switched back to a new Terminal window and found the activate tap0 device

snelboek:~ uz3r$ sudo -i
snelboek:~ root# ifconfig
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
gif0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
stf0: flags=0<> mtu 1280
en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
ether 00:11:24:d5:d0:1a
media: autoselect (none) status: inactive
supported media: none autoselect 10baseT/UTP <half-duplex> 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex,flow-control> 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex,hw-loopback> 100baseTX <half-duplex> 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX <full-duplex,flow-control> 100baseTX <full-duplex,hw-loopback>
en1: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 192.168.1.230 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
ether 00:11:24:a7:a0:fe
media: autoselect status: active
supported media: autoselect
fw0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 2030
lladdr 00:11:24:ff:fe:d5:d0:1a
media: autoselect <full-duplex> status: inactive
supported media: autoselect <full-duplex>
tap0: flags=8842<BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
ether 26:07:4c:3b:c4:1a
open (pid 325)
snelboek:~ root# ifconfig tap0 192.168.10.1 255.255.255.0
snelboek:~ root# ifconfig tap0
tap0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 192.168.10.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 255.255.255.0
ether 26:07:4c:3b:c4:1a
open (pid 325)

In the meanwhile Debian was booting

and is currently installing but I'm on a PB 12" G4 with Bettery Battery life, 2 tabs in TFF , TextEdit opened, Terminal 2 windows and qemu-system-i386 running so it might take a bit to finish

I'm going to eat in between the Debian install and will get back once it finishes.

 

[Dronecatcher]

others on the forums have been able to watch 720p video using CorePlayer on machines with similar CPUs to mine, while I'm getting stuttering and visual glitches.

I have noticed this of late with Coreplayer on Youtube (on G5 and G4) - think it's more to do with Youtube changing video encoding again - VLC and mplayer however play the glitchy files OK.

 

[bobesch]

Day 4/today (so far): I forgot to add my iTunes to my G5 so i had to get my iTunes off the iMac. Watch some youtube off my G5, gonna install iLife "06 and iWork "09!

Oh iLife'06 - a precious with iMovie'06! Recovered all our family DV-tapes with iMovie'06 and look forward to make some video-editing (maybe on the PM-G5 instead of the PB-G5 to add some speed to the projects...)

EDIT: Due to unforseen family circumstances, I have decided to withdraw from this challenge. Feel free to take my place in the first post

Oh I feel sorry for you - same happened to me making other things more important an the PPC-challege getting out of focus involuntarily.
So my 13"alu MacBool late 2008 has become my main companion - mainly as a music-machine with the BassJump2-enhancement and my Apple-Music-collection to give me a lift ...
Nevertheless the PBG4 is also on board serving as my fax-machine for "old Europe" steam-technology (could have been also be the all-in-one device on the go together with my favorite ScanSnap&DEVONthink-combo and the iPhone, but music currently matters more and the Soundstick's subwoofer is far to big for traveling.)

Anyway it's fun to follow this thread and feel to be part of the challenge!

 

[Gamer9430]

Oh iLife'06 - a precious with iMovie'06! Recovered all our family DV-tapes with iMovie'06 and look forward to make some video-editing (maybe on the PM-G5 instead of the PB-G5 to add some speed to the projects...)

Yeah, wouldn’t want to scorch your legs while video editing using your PB G5

 

[bobesch]

Yeah, wouldn’t want to scorch your legs while video editing using your PB G5

Ha, the PB-G5 typo. A real burner ...

(My 12" 1.5GHz G4 SteamBook sitting on the lap make things already feel running like hell ...)

 

[lhn555]

Sorry for the late reply, your reply came when I started working 13 hours and then it's x86_64 for the entire day.

I downloaded the debian9 netinstall iso here
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-9.0.0-i386-netinst.iso
since I didn't know which Ubuntu version you were trying.

Then
snelboek:~ uz3r$ qemu-img create -f qcow2 debian9.qcow2 8G
Formatting 'debian9.qcow2', fmt=qcow2 size=8589934592 encryption=off cluster_size=65536 lazy_refcounts=off
snelboek:~ uz3r$ qemu-system-i386 -version

(process:283): GLib-WARNING **: gmem.c:483: custom memory allocation vtable not supported
QEMU emulator version 2.2.0, Copyright (c) 2003-2008 Fabrice Bellard

Then booted the iso (remember I have the tuntap drivers installed already)

snelboek:~ uz3r$ sudo -i
snelboek:~ root# cd /Users/uz3r/
snelboek:uz3r root# qemu-system-i386 -boot d -hda debian9.qcow2 -cdrom Downloads/debian-9.0.0-i386-netinst.iso -m 512M -net nic -net tap,script=no,downscript=no

I get the Seabios screen , loading cdrom and then

View attachment 707206
Chose Install , then switched back to a new Terminal window and found the activate tap0 device

snelboek:~ uz3r$ sudo -i
snelboek:~ root# ifconfig
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
gif0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
stf0: flags=0<> mtu 1280
en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
ether 00:11:24:d5:d0:1a
media: autoselect (none) status: inactive
supported media: none autoselect 10baseT/UTP <half-duplex> 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex,flow-control> 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex,hw-loopback> 100baseTX <half-duplex> 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX <full-duplex,flow-control> 100baseTX <full-duplex,hw-loopback>
en1: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 192.168.1.230 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
ether 00:11:24:a7:a0:fe
media: autoselect status: active
supported media: autoselect
fw0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 2030
lladdr 00:11:24:ff:fe:d5:d0:1a
media: autoselect <full-duplex> status: inactive
supported media: autoselect <full-duplex>
tap0: flags=8842<BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
ether 26:07:4c:3b:c4:1a
open (pid 325)
snelboek:~ root# ifconfig tap0 192.168.10.1 255.255.255.0
snelboek:~ root# ifconfig tap0
tap0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 192.168.10.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 255.255.255.0
ether 26:07:4c:3b:c4:1a
open (pid 325)

In the meanwhile Debian was booting

View attachment 707207

and is currently installing but I'm on a PB 12" G4 with Bettery Battery life, 2 tabs in TFF , TextEdit opened, Terminal 2 windows and qemu-system-i386 running so it might take a bit to finish

I'm going to eat in between the Debian install and will get back once it finishes.

I think that my macports is updated because I had 2.3.5, I used their uninstall guide but even with 2.3.4 it still wants to install 2.9.0. I installed 2.4.0.1 through tigerbrew, but that's what I have the freezing issue on. How do I downgrade/remove the macports database so it'll install 2.2.0?

 

[MagicBoy]

Sorry, behind on the updates...

Day 1
Not much setup stuff to do, as I’ve been using a recently acquired 15” PowerBook 1.67GHz DLSD occasionally for a couple months now. Not feeling great today - had a cold so did very very little. Chatted on the Slack for a while using iChat.

Day 2
Feeling a bit better today. Did a bit of perusal of the internet using TFF. Slow in places, but everything I tried worked.
Dug out my old Digital Camera and PCMCIA to CF adapter in case of imaging emergencies. Charged the battery.
Looked at the G5 tower, then decided it was too heavy and the DLSD was fine so left it in storage.

Day 3
Bit more of a challenge today. I help run a sim racing league and we have a weekly meeting to look at incidents to help keep the racing clean and friendly. (I’ve got a pass to use the PC for the sim racing stuff only as it's Windows only, and kind of work). No compatible teamspeak client for older Macs so used the PC for that as well as I needed it to check the replay files.
The DLSD was used to access the Google Sheets that we use for sharing data. They’re large and have complex data manipulation formulas. Something my rMBP wouldn’t blink at, was borderline unusable on the PowerBook. It quickly got (slowly) downloaded as an Excel file, which Excel 2008 handled with ease. So a bit of a save there.

Day 4
Bit of social networky stuff and emails while listening to my iTunes library today. iCloud mail works seemlessly (still) with Mail. Sound quality of the DLSD with good external speakers is very good, a big step over the old TiBook. Also happily streams to my (modern) AV amp using Airplay.

Stuff for later in the week - keep meaning to get around to installing Linux.

 

[pet84rik]

Days 2-5: used script for youtube-dl from you guys, solved crtificate and old python issues and it is actually working. I will probably limit myself to 480p since it is waste of CPU power to decode 720p on 1024x768 screen. Plus, a lot of content on youtube I am watching is OK in this resolution.

I will also try this with Tiger and 400 MHz PowerMac G4.

Otherwise, nothing else is limiting me at the moment. Also big thank you for the uMatrix extension, it will make my browsing faster and more pleasant

Other than that, I am using IRC, there is no issue....

I think, the rest of the challenge will be super easy



EDIT: if anyone would be interested, here is my slightly improved script (added quality selection and disabling certificate check):

echo -n "Link? "
read link
./youtube-dl --no-check-certificate  -F "$link"
read -p "Please enter the desired quality # " FORMAT
./youtube-dl  -f $FORMAT --no-check-certificate "$link" -o -| "/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/VLC" -

EDIT2: with 360p not even a fan is running. Great.. I can finally watch the whole episode of "Mum destroys..." :-D

 

[Adamscomputerrepair]

I killed my iBook. Actually, it killed itself. Screen stopped working (not sure why) and the hard drive crapped out. But, my PBG4 is still chugging along.

Still, I kinda hate life right now. That iBook was becoming my all time favorite laptop. I may look into a 12 inch PowerBook though for more power. Idk.

Also I’ve been filming my challenge so when it’s all over I’ll upload here.

 

[Lastic]

I think that my macports is updated because I had 2.3.5, I used their uninstall guide but even with 2.3.4 it still wants to install 2.9.0. I installed 2.4.0.1 through tigerbrew, but that's what I have the freezing issue on. How do I downgrade/remove the macports database so it'll install 2.2.0?

Ouch,indeed looks like Macports 2.3.4 is giving you a bit of a fight,I never updated mine back when this version came out so I guess that's
why it never updates my qemu .

Well, here we go, installing an older port.
(Make sure you don't have qemu installed and start with only a clean install of Macports 2.3.4)

https://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/InstallingOlderPort

First you will need git

sudo port install git

Then you have to find the correct git repository for qemu 2.2.0
Go here https://github.com/macports/macports-ports

In the search bar , type qemu and then at the bottom you will find this link
emulators/qemu/Portfile

This is the whole history/git repository of qemu.
Click History and browse and click on the several ones until you find qemu 2.2.0
(I did it ,it's the one of Commits on Jan 16, 2015)

https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/commit/b05540d8c997bb4909166ba47f87222c415d8dcd

git clone --single-branch https://github.com/macports/macports-ports.git
cd macports-ports
git checkout b05540d8c997bb4909166ba47f87222c415d8dcd

You will now find a folder macports-ports/emulators/qemu , enter it and do
sudo port install

Be patient (at least on a PB G4) and it will build .

I tried in the past to use more up to date versions of qemu via Macports but always resorted back to 2.2.0 since for me it was the most stable, out of curiousity , qemu 2.9.0 doesn't work at all ? What errors do you get ?

And now off to train commute and x86_64 work
[doublepost=1499234594][/doublepost]Day 4

Installed Debian 9 i386 netinstall via Qemu , well actually it was still busy when I went to bed so this morning it was at the actual install via network.

Apart from that I got my new episode of Preacher via Automatic,ShowRSS and uTorrent.

Watched Fear the Walking Dead using Coreplayer whilst doing the qemu install of Debian and posting here using TFF.

I did struggle with Gmail in TFF , LWK didn't move at all.

To be able to get to the password page , I had to disable uMatrix in TFF and even then with the standard view it was horribly slow.

Any tips on how to improve it ?

I did fire up the G5 but had to boot 3 times to get to Fedora 25 Mate
and the Radeon glitches seem to freeze my setup so will need more time to look into that.

I haven't updated my TFF yet to FP1 , should I ? Is there any speed improvement ?

 

[Dronecatcher]

Hi guys, here's what I do to watch YouTube on Leopard. I'm using Python 2.6.4, maybe other versions will work as well but I haven't tested it. Also make sure you have VLC.
Download youtube-dl and put it where you want, I put it in my home folder so my Terminal would open to where it is already. Make sure you chmod +x it.

Then, I used this simple script to ask for a YouTube link and use youtube-dl to stream it through to VLC.

echo -n "Link? "
read link
./youtube-dl "$link" -o -| "/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/VLC" -

It'll ask you for a link, you put it in, and it streams. Using the native stream option built into VLC doesn't work with YouTube as there's a problem with what they're using to handle TLS on the release for PPC Macs I guess.

Good work Just a shame doesn't work with older VLC versions that are more efficient on G4/G3.
My version uses mplayer which saves you a few CPU cycles and is useable back to a 300Mhz G3 - the great thing with youtube-dl is you can custom fit to your exact requirements.

 

[KawaiiAurora]

Days 2-5: used script for youtube-dl from you guys, solved crtificate and old python issues and it is actually working. I will probably limit myself to 480p since it is waste of CPU power to decode 720p on 1024x768 screen. Plus, a lot of content on youtube I am watching is OK in this resolution.

I will also try this with Tiger and 400 MHz PowerMac G4.

Otherwise, nothing else is limiting me at the moment. Also big thank you for the uMatrix extension, it will make my browsing faster and more pleasant

Other than that, I am using IRC, there is no issue....

I think, the rest of the challenge will be super easy

View attachment 707288

EDIT: if anyone would be interested, here is my slightly improved script (added quality selection and disabling certificate check):

echo -n "Link? "
read link
./youtube-dl --no-check-certificate  -F "$link"
read -p "Please enter the desired quality # " FORMAT
./youtube-dl  -f $FORMAT --no-check-certificate "$link" -o -| "/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/VLC" -

EDIT2: with 360p not even a fan is running. Great.. I can finally watch the whole episode of "Mum destroys..." :-D

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480p with CorePlayer on my 400MHz PM G4 doesn't work too well. 360p works well tho

 

[Lastic]

Day 5

Came back from work after a horribly long train commute because working people should enjoy shorter trains /cancelled trains or take holidays.

Had to do a few AwayFromKeyboard and just arrived home now finally.

I noticed this morning that my "Host only" qemu network doesn't allow the Debian netinstall to connect to the Debian servers , will look into that now and afterwards go to bed.

No feedback from the AOSC developer so I guess I'm mailing a no longer used email account.
Will look for other means of contacting them.

Tomorrow Fedora G5 reinstall maybe or fiddle with AOSC on the 2nd PB G4 12".

Any tips on using Gmail in TFF, even in HTML view it's really slow ?
I got uMatrix and Bluhell installed, should I install NoScript also ?