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This is ridiculous.

If you want a camera, buy a camera.

An iPhone should be all screen, all day battery, comfortable to use with one hand (light, top of the screen reachable, and with a comfortable shape : iPhone X like not iPhone 14 like).

Apple has forgotten this, and it shows.

An iPhone isn't supposed to be a reflex mashed into an iPad mini.
 
Yes Apple, go make bigger phones! As if the current ones arent already too big and too heavy. And then they wonder why on earth are Tablets sales falling - Maybe because you're making phones that are more or less already tablets?!
 
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Looks like my plan of upgrading to 15 Pro now becomes waiting for 16 Pro instead
My plans completely vanished. When my iP11 pro drops dead, I‘ll probably get myself a refurbished one from a reseller like backmarket. I don‘t even know if it is going to be a pro model again. All the updates that happebed after my model include bigger sizes/bigger cameras.
I would really be happy if software functionality improves, also I‘d buy a smaller iPhone SE/mini without FaceId but with integrated TouchId immediately.

Apple puts too much lipstick on the pig.
 
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Cool, but I hope the image processing software doesn't ruin the pictures taken by the increasingly-impressive hardware. The hardware doesn't mean much if the software simply overrides anything the hardware captures.
My Pixel does this and sometimes the results are horrendous.
 
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Remember when year to year improvements were enough to justify getting a new phone every 2 years? Now it’s barely justifiable every 5 years. My wife has an iPhone 11 and is sees no compelling reason to get the 15 this year or the 16 next.
Makes you wonder how long Apple can keep this up for until even the most marketing prone get tired of it
 
This has always baffled me as Apple has the money and the talent, don’t they hire the best of the best? Who is doing this to our photos? Why? Apple can afford to bring in the best minds in the camera industry from around the world, yet we keep getting these weird over edited pictures forced into us. A several year old dirt cheap android phone shouldn’t take better pictures than a brand new iPhone 14 pro and I hope not better than a 15 pro!

Maybe it’s time they partner up with someone and just farm it all out to them and Apple can focus on other stuff??
My old iPhone 6s took better indoor/night photos than my 13 pro. Go and figure.
At leas the photos on the 6s didn't look like paintings
 
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My Pixel does this and sometimes the results are horrendous.
I had an iPhone 14 Pro Max and was increasingly disillusioned with Apple's post processing algorithm. Photos were routinely over-sharpened and shadows over-lightened. The end result was unnatural. A landscape with trees was ruined by edge enhancement visible on every branch. Detail in faces are like the example of MKBHD earlier in this thread.

In January I had some spare cash so bought a Pixel 6a, just to have a play, and boy was I shocked! In so many ways the 6a was better than the iPhone 14 Pro Max and was nearly £1000 cheaper. I tool a great many photos side-by-side on both phones and in most cases the Pixel took the better photo. As a long-term (several decades) photographer, the Pixel photos looked more analogue and more pleasing to the eye without over-sharpening or edge enhancement and with more contrast. Bearing in mind we're talking about tiny sensors I found that a point and shoot Pixel photo was pretty much always better. I get that iPhone video is better, I get that iPhone raw mode is better, but for your average user who just wants to take a shot, the Pixel is better than the iPhone.

Suffice to say I sold my iPhone 14 Pro Max and have now upgraded to a Pixel 7a.

I'm not tribal about any OS and I always make sure I don't get entrenched in any ecosystem. I choose third-party solutions so moving from iOS to Android was not a problem at all. I have a Mac as my main computer and use Snapdrop to give me the equivalent of Airdrop functionality and AirDroid to drag and drop files to my Pixel. I don't like smart watches, much preferring a real watch - so moving between ecosystems is really simple.
 
Even if design is for sure not the most important thing, I really do find the current size of Pro cameras huge and I don't like it. IMO it gaves to the design kind of a cheap flex status thing instead of being minimalist and classy which to me is the design language that drive iphone from the OG one to the iPhone XS.

I know increasing optics size help to have better photos/video but I think they could design the camera system better
 
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That would be nice. According to the most recent rumors from Ross Young, it's not supposed to launch until 2025, though:

I think Ross’ timeline is more likely.
Even if under-glass tech is possible, Apple tends to milk current tech before moving to the “next thing.” He could be wrong but I’d be SHOCKED if that tech debuts in the 16.
 
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Even larger sensors to be trashed by Apple Airheads that pushed airbrushed, HDR overprocessing.

I still haven't forgotten the horrendous way Apple monkeys with skin tones. We all rave about years of software updates, but apparently this is not fixable years later. Until this junk is fixed, I'll sit out iPhone "upgrades".

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iPhones have always had that yellow haze over them, dunno why they do it like that
 
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And what about the rest of us who don't care about the stupid cameras? When this ridiculous camera race would stop? Can Apple just release an "Camara Edition" iPhone for all those Instragram fanatics and slim and light version for the rest of us?
 
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Cool, but I hope the image processing software doesn't ruin the pictures taken by the increasingly-impressive hardware. The hardware doesn't mean much if the software simply overrides anything the hardware captures.
I think the 14pro is doing a good job of post image processing.
 
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You can clearly see how ruined it gets when you take a picture and quickly open the gallery to view the last photo taken. There is about 1-3 seconds before effects get applied.
Ruined?

The photos always look worse (less focus) before the processing is applied.
 
Same phrase, every year. :rolleyes:
Yeah, and easy to say when you own a iPhone 13 or 14 already. Although the speculated features are really nice, I’m not gonna wait an another year and a half. Definitely will buy the 15 pro max this autumn, with the extra storage option. Coming from an 11 Pro Max with only 64GB this will be a nice upgrade anyway.
 
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I really wish Apple could run customer surveys more often, asking people to prioritise what they want in an iPhone most (camera, battery life, screen size, notch, etc.). If they emailed their whole iPhone customer base, it would allow them to plan their new releases much better.

For me, already existing camera tech in a standard (non-Pro) iPhone since iPhone 12 is plenty and I would not like iPhones getting bigger and heavier just for the sake of housing this new camera setup.
I think the problem with Apple these days is that they continue to mostly listen to themselves and tell people want they want.

Which, if you have a visionary leader like Jobs running the show, this strategy works: “people don’t know what they want until you show/give it to them”

One the one hand, Apple is sticking to their game plan (whatever it is) and delivering the same products (mostly) year after year. It’s dependable, and trustworthy: everyone knows they’ll get a good-great experience without any fuss.

The market has already been upset. The amazing thing has been unleashed (iPhone) (Apple Watch). Maybe the Goggles will be revolutionary, maybe not.
 
Yeah, and easy to say when you own a iPhone 13 or 14 already. Although the speculated features are really nice, I’m not gonna wait an another year and a half. Definitely will buy the 15 pro max this autumn, with the extra storage option. Coming from an 11 Pro Max with only 64GB this will be a nice upgrade anyway.
Yeah it will!! No use suffering another year. Get that new iPhone. It’ll be the best Apple experience for one whole year. A year is a long time. :)
 
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