Incremental upgrade to the iPhone. This is supposed to kill the Pre and webOS?

[Amorpheus]

You've got to be kidding me. No really. Push notification? The Pre has fantastic multitasking that allows you to use 12-15 apps (ANY APP) at the same time, PLUS unobtrusive notifications, and Apple decided to use push noitification to match everything? How does that match multitasking among all apps? Hell you're still killing apps everytime you go App>Homescreen>2nd app>Homescreen>1st>app>Homescreen>3rd app.

Again, so what? The time it takes to load most apps is not significant. The developer guidelines dictate that the programs be written in a way that gracefully manages opening and closing them all the time. (Or somesuch, anyway!)

The push notifications will do what I would keep apps open for, telling me if there's a new IM or other updates. Palm has solved the whole app handling better, but the actual difference in usage should be neglible. Depending on 3rd party app quality, the additional battery drain from multitasking probably isn't.

 

[robothero]

Well, he's right though. The iPhone only matches the Pre in a few areas. It just happens to exceed it in so many more areas (and is behind on one or two)

 

[Pared]

Forgetting the fact that you're idea of a solution is a third party hack, Backgrounded only works for ONE APP at a time. You hold down the Home button in the app and you go back the the home screen. You have to remember which app it is, since the app icon isn't tagged and even if it was you have to flick through pages to find it. Not to mention you can only findout if Backgrounder is enabled ot disabled by opening the app in the first place.


Backgrounder for multitasking is as useful as Quickgold was for searching through the iPhone, which is to say it was laughable.

Actually, you're wrong. You can background many applications.

And the search in 3.0 actually searches email, both on the server and on your phone. Something the Palm Pre does not.

You're so horribly, horribly wrong. Just stop posting. You're making yourself look worse and worse.

 

[Etnies419]

Forgetting the fact that you're idea of a solution is a third party hack, Backgrounded only works for ONE APP at a time. You hold down the Home button in the app and you go back the the home screen. You have to remember which app it is, since the app icon isn't tagged and even if it was you have to flick through pages to find it. Not to mention you can only findout if Backgrounder is enabled ot disabled by opening the app in the first place.


Backgrounder for multitasking is as useful as Quickgold was for searching through the iPhone, which is to say it was laughable.

No. Backgrounder works with multiple apps. You can choose to select apps to automatically background. There's a task list option, which lets you see, switch to, and end all current apps running, including Mail, Phone, Safari, iPod, and Springboard. App icons are also tagged with a notification letting you know it's running.

And I find Quickgold very useful. I go to the Springboard, tap the home button, search the first few letters of the app I want, and hit go. I can also search texts, contacts, bookmarks, web clips, and safari history.

 

[Ljohnson72]

More importantly, if you're Pre is so great then why the hell are you wasting your time in the iPhone forum. And you don't think you're a fanboy. Oh the irony.

 

[darngooddesign]

Forgetting the fact that you're idea of a solution is a third party hack, Backgrounded only works for ONE APP at a time. You hold down the Home button in the app and you go back the the home screen. You have to remember which app it is, since the app icon isn't tagged and even if it was you have to flick through pages to find it. Not to mention you can only findout if Backgrounder is enabled ot disabled by opening the app in the first place.

Backgrounder for multitasking is as useful as Quickgold was for searching through the iPhone, which is to say it was laughable.

You are incorrect.

You can background as many apps as you want.

The icon is tagged with a very obvious badge.

I can remember simple things like having a couple of apps running. I don't need to background my to do list since launching it only takes a second.

Palm's method is a good one, but Backgrounder is perfectly acceptable.

 

[Theophany]

You've got to be kidding me. No really. Push notification? The Pre has fantastic multitasking that allows you to use 12-15 apps (ANY APP) at the same time, PLUS unobtrusive notifications, and Apple decided to use push noitification to match everything? How does that match multitasking among all apps? Hell you're still killing apps everytime you go App>Homescreen>2nd app>Homescreen>1st>app>Homescreen>3rd app.

Such an archaic system shored up by an even more archaic system. You'd be better off keeping track of apps with an abacus taped to the back.

But it's a Palm device? What would I rather have, something made by Apple or something made by PALM?

You may think the Pre is better, the rest think iPhone is better. It's totally subjective. You can't measure it, the entire argument here (from both sides) is fail.

I just know that when I rip my phone out, I'd much rather people saw me using an iPhone than "that other phone that copied the iPhone," which, let's face it, the average Joe is going to think.

(Oh and suggesting the Pre is "revolutionary" is a total joke. Revolutionary were the phones that introduced screens, revolutionary were the phones that introduced cameras. Blackberry was revolutionary. Everything following those phones are natural evolution. iPhone wasn't revolutionary, it was the next logical step for cellphones. You've got to be something stupid to think Pre is revolutionary.)

 

[darngooddesign]

To be fair, I would have no problem sporting a Pre.

 

[Theophany]

To be fair, I would have no problem sporting a Pre.

Good for you. I wouldn't, personally. But this entire thread is a load of personal opinions that people are spouting as if they're facts.

 

[Palm Pimp]

But it's a Palm device? What would I rather have, something made by Apple or something made by PALM?

You've got to be kidding? You're advocating getting a device to show off the brand name instead of what device is actually better? Why not take a rock and chisel it into an iPhone shape and stick an Apple sticker on the back?

 

[Goona]

50 000 for the most hyped phone since the original iphone?

 

[Palm Pimp]

50 000 for the most hyped phone since the original iphone?

It seems all you've left to talk about is sales.

 

[marksman]

http://live.gizmodo.com/

No multitasking. No offscreen gestures. No haptic virtual keyboard or hardware keyboard. no new ports.

No surprise.

A non-upgraded iphone kills the pre... I don't know what you were expecting. Half those things are stupid and would only ruin the iphone. I am not sure you understand what makes something good.

 

[Rat-Boy]

It seems all you've left to talk about is sales.

I talked about features above and you ignored it LIAR.

No go on over to PalmPimpCentral or whatever that site is and cry some more with other Pre owners about the phone's short comings.

 

[marksman]

I also said no haptic feedback v keyboard. Same crap as before/



Cause who cares? It's all stuff most phones can do already, much less the Pre. Are you gonna boast about Autofill or Copy and Paste next?

Something is wrong with you.

That was the same moronic claim people made about pretty much everything the iPhone was supposed to do when it came out. XYZSUCKPHONE can already do that, ldo.

the problem is that doesn't matter, because the iPhone actually does it right, and in a way people can actually use it.

Lots of mobile devices had web browsers. Why is the percentage of people who access web pages via mobile device dominated by iphones and touches when they make up a much smaller percentage of the overall market?

Seriously, again you don't get it.

Please don't ever get a job where you have to do anything involving some sort of critical thinking.

 

[bdorpetzl]

http://live.gizmodo.com/

No multitasking. No offscreen gestures. No haptic virtual keyboard or hardware keyboard. no new ports.

Basically it's the same incremental upgrade as seen from the 1G to 2G touch. At least the autofill is cool.

The Palm Pre is a nice piece of tech, however, it would have been better matched as a competitor for the original 2G iPhone (launched in 2007). There are some things that the Pre does better and there are some (many things IMHO, e.g. full device search) that the current iPhone and iPhone 3G does better. To each their own.

I do agree with others that your extreme Palm fanboy-ism makes many dislike the Pre.

 

[elgrecomac]

Well...

The Plam-dork has a point. The iphone 'keyboard' is, to me, the weakest part of the device. luckily I am not a slave to email 24/7, IM or Twitter so the keyboard doen't overly piss me off but I prefer the crackberry's keyboard. OTOH, the iphone has so many other features that I like that it over compensates for the sheety keyboard and ATT: the WORST cell system in the greater San Diego area.

 

[rdowns]

Were it not for the iPhone, the Pre would never have existed.

 

[Goona]

Something is wrong with you.

That was the same moronic claim people made about pretty much everything the iPhone was supposed to do when it came out. XYZSUCKPHONE can already do that, ldo.

the problem is that doesn't matter, because the iPhone actually does it right, and in a way people can actually use it.

Lots of mobile devices had web browsers. Why is the percentage of people who access web pages via mobile device dominated by iphones and touches when they make up a much smaller percentage of the overall market?

Seriously, again you don't get it.

Please don't ever get a job where you have to do anything involving some sort of critical thinking.

Palm is not even on the map for web share:

 

[Palm Pimp]

Were it not for the iPhone, the Pre would never have existed.

Were it not for the horse and buggy, Ferraris would have never existed.

Palm is not even on the map for web share:

It's their biggest competitor and it launched TWO DAYS AGO. Are you serious? How much thought did you put into that post?

 

[svndmvn]

hey palm pimp, do these threads make you feel important?
is it all necessary? Isn't it better to just enjoy your device? Both original, 3g, 3g s and Palm Pre are good devices, these last two are kind of close, but who cares? Your choices in buying a product could differ from someone else's. You'll get banned, just act civilized in a Mac Forum, ok?

 

[darngooddesign]

Were it not for the horse and buggy, Ferraris would have never existed.

I didn't know we were talking about Win Mo devices.

 

[Kevlar]

Well, he's right though. The iPhone only matches the Pre in a few areas. It just happens to exceed it in so many more areas (and is behind on one or two)

Bingo each has some positive and negative points. It all depends on what you are looking for.

Multitasking (the main pre plus) has it's perks but other then maybe being able to switch between safari (without reloading pages) and the other main apple apps is the only thing I would use it ever for. And since I can copy and paste between them it isn't as important to me (might be for others).

 

[Kevlar]

Were it not for the horse and buggy, Ferraris would have never existed.





It's their biggest competitor and it launched TWO DAYS AGO. Are you serious? How much thought did you put into that post?

He said Palm, not the pre. Palm has been around forever and has tons of hardware.

 

[darngooddesign]

He said Palm, not the pre. Palm has been around forever and has tons of hardware.

Reading comprehension is one of Pee Pees (see what I did there Palm Pimp?) most glaring faults.