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Incremental upgrade to the iPhone. This is supposed to kill the Pre and webOS?
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in that case Palm is the horse and iPhone is the Ferrari, the comparison used by Palm Pimp is usually quoted by Apple fans, referring to Apple products.
Palm is not even on the map for web share:
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Well it's only been out for three days so you gotta give them a break there. I doubt it will change much though, unless those 50 000 people go ******* on the web.
Heh, welcome to the business world of "good enough".
Apple only has to release an iPhone with features that are "good enough". "Killer features" would be nice, but they not necessary at this point in time. And, today, the iPhone 3GS is probably good enough. For many people, the app store makes up for any shortcomings.
Take a look at the new video features: while many people here won't be using it, it's a great marketing feature. Many non-technical people are unaware that other phones have this feature, and, once they see Apple's marketing ads, they'll probably think: "Ooh, shiny -- the iPhone is cool and advanced!". Keep in mind that Apple's also trying to sell to the nontechnical types, and marketing like this is spot-on (IMO).
(Going off on a tangent: does anyone know if the 3GS has video image stabilization? For usability, that's probably a requirement these days.)
I also believe that the $99 iPhone will hurt the Pre, and that much of the Pre sales will be "carrier-related" (that is, because people like a carrier or because people are contractually stuck with a carrier and are not willing to pay any early termination fees).
Apple only has to release an iPhone with features that are "good enough". "Killer features" would be nice, but they not necessary at this point in time. And, today, the iPhone 3GS is probably good enough. For many people, the app store makes up for any shortcomings.
Take a look at the new video features: while many people here won't be using it, it's a great marketing feature. Many non-technical people are unaware that other phones have this feature, and, once they see Apple's marketing ads, they'll probably think: "Ooh, shiny -- the iPhone is cool and advanced!". Keep in mind that Apple's also trying to sell to the nontechnical types, and marketing like this is spot-on (IMO).
(Going off on a tangent: does anyone know if the 3GS has video image stabilization? For usability, that's probably a requirement these days.)
I also believe that the $99 iPhone will hurt the Pre, and that much of the Pre sales will be "carrier-related" (that is, because people like a carrier or because people are contractually stuck with a carrier and are not willing to pay any early termination fees).
Were it not for the primordial soup and single cell organisms, horses and buggies wouldn't existed, so there.
Or for you ID people
If it wasn't for an intelligent designer that designed crap like the Pre we wouldn't have anything to prove that the iPhone was superior.
Maybe there plan is to only have 18 apps so that you can keep them all open with multitasking
I am guessing that 12% 'other' has to be largely made up of Palm products cause there are a lot of them out there. A few hundred thousand more Pre units and other WebOS hardware will probably help them as well due to the multi-forms of hardware running the same OS.
WebOS is decent but young. The Pre is early hardware for a new OS and not the greatest hardware which is too be expected. Apple's First Edge iPhone was the first phone hardware apple ever made. The Pre is not the first phone hardware ever made by Palm which is why I am a little disappointed by it. Palm has the experience in the market at which when they released their should of been next too no problems.
With some stability improvements to the Palm, it will be a nice viable option to the iphone if it gets any kind of developer support for its app store.
I'm talking about the original Palm, I mean they were selling phones before the Pre...
The true measure of success is the number of Flashlight and Fart apps for the platform. How many does Pre have?
Wonderful analogy.
Palm is hardly Apple's biggest competitor. Apple is far more concerned with RIM and the other major players. Palm isn't on anyone's radar these days. We'll see if that changes.
Palm has been making smartphones for years and have no share? Wow, pathetic.
I'm guessing the Other would be Rim products because there is a lot more of them than any Palm products.
I'm going to throw the OP a bone. The Pre is a nice phone, and I'm impressed with Palm for this achievement. If Apple still just made iPods, the Pre would be my first choice over Blackberry or WinMo.
But, IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT AN IPHONE KILLER.
Not even close.
It's competition, sure. It even betters the iPhone in a few areas. It even makes me wish Apple would adopt a few features.
But when looking at the phones as a whole, the choice is easy. The 3GS is a polished, well built, amazing piece of kit, and 3.0 software takes care of every shortcoming (except multitasking).
As for multitasking, it's already been demonstrated that the Pre takes a noticeable performance hit when you multitask. So Apple was right. Yes they should give us the choice anyway, but we do have jailbreaking to take care of that don't we?
So I wish Pre users would go back to playing with their new phones rather than coming here and trolling. Seriously. You will get shot down so many different ways.
But, IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT AN IPHONE KILLER.
Not even close.
It's competition, sure. It even betters the iPhone in a few areas. It even makes me wish Apple would adopt a few features.
But when looking at the phones as a whole, the choice is easy. The 3GS is a polished, well built, amazing piece of kit, and 3.0 software takes care of every shortcoming (except multitasking).
As for multitasking, it's already been demonstrated that the Pre takes a noticeable performance hit when you multitask. So Apple was right. Yes they should give us the choice anyway, but we do have jailbreaking to take care of that don't we?
So I wish Pre users would go back to playing with their new phones rather than coming here and trolling. Seriously. You will get shot down so many different ways.
All cell phone networks suck, but atleast Sprints plans aren't so ridiculous.
I really wish apple would have announced cheaper iPhone plans today.
How insecure are you about the Palm Pre that you need to post on an iPhone board seemingly 24/7 trying to publicly convince yourself that the Pre and WebOS is "better" than the iPhone?
At the end of the day, a device is a tool, and people choose whichever one works best for them. Go talk about the Pre on a Palm forum, and stop spamming here.
you're arguing online over what phone is better instead of just buying what you want and enjoy it.
why do you guys come on here to justify your opinions? is it going to effect your purchase... honestly?
this is hilarious.
"NO IPHONE IS BETTER" "NO PRE IS BETTER"
competition is there to cause this, and quite frankly the iphone stepped up to the pre
why do you guys come on here to justify your opinions? is it going to effect your purchase... honestly?
this is hilarious.
"NO IPHONE IS BETTER" "NO PRE IS BETTER"
competition is there to cause this, and quite frankly the iphone stepped up to the pre
What's hilarious is that I have both the Pre and an iPod Touch.you're arguing online over what phone is better instead of just buying what you want and enjoy it.
why do you guys come on here to justify your opinions? is it going to effect your purchase... honestly?
this is hilarious.
"NO IPHONE IS BETTER" "NO PRE IS BETTER"
competition is there to cause this, and quite frankly the iphone stepped up to the pre
Not sure how the Pre "smokes" the iPhone 3GS based on the latest specs released (32GB versus 8GB, glass screen versus plastic), not to mention the massive intangibles such as the huge developer base, access to iTunes content over the air, massive user base, etc.
The weakest link with the iPhone, at least in the US, has to be ATT, but the same can be said with many mobile companies.
The weakest link with the iPhone, at least in the US, has to be ATT, but the same can be said with many mobile companies.
