Depends on the room size (distance from the screen) and mostly the size of the screen. It's not THAT much of a difference, I still watch DVDs on my 1080p and watch ripped DVDs that don't look nearly as good as source. For normal stuff I don't care, it only matters occasionally with action movies or movies where the detail in camera work was important.
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Depends on the room size (distance from the screen) and mostly the size of the screen. It's not THAT much of a difference, I still watch DVDs on my 1080p and watch ripped DVDs that don't look nearly as good as source. For normal stuff I don't care, it only matters occasionally with action movies or movies where the detail in camera work was important.
Is someone a little bitter? Sheesh.
iPads, iPhones, and iPods can now interact with AppleTV. Meaning that in the future, if an App store was created for the device, controls could be based through these touch screens. No need to get all hot and bothered that this one device isn't created with you in mind...
Yay, mine has shipped! Delivers by September 30th 
UPDATE: Actually I lied, when I track mine it actually shows delivery by September 29 at 10:30am
UPDATE: Actually I lied, when I track mine it actually shows delivery by September 29 at 10:30am
Bitter about what ? I was going to get one if it had had better codec/DLNA support. My storage and media requires more than Apple offers. Thank god the market is already full of competing products, I got a DLNA enabled Blu-ray player instead.
If an App Store is created for AppleTV, it will have AppleTV apps. If you need to touch your iPod's screen to control your TV, hint, you're not looking at the TV. That's the problem with touch screen input, it requires that the output be on the same surface your are touching, because it lacks tactile feedback to otherwise indicate what you are touching.
The fact is, this one device doesn't seem to be created with anyone in mind, except those who don't know about the options that already exist. Limited output, limited codec support, DAAP/Airplay proprietary streaming instead of open standard based streaming, limited feature set...
Daily. Thanks for making assumptions. All my home media is streamed to either my LG Blu-ray player or my PS3 depending on where in the house I am using a DLNA server off my NAS.
Yay, mine has shipped! Delivers by September 30th
UPDATE: Actually I lied, when I track mine it actually shows delivery by September 29 at 10:30am
I wish it shipped with UPS because they UPS guy always comes to my house at 11:00 AM, every time.
The FedEx guy seems to wait until the last possible second before their delivery guarantee time to deliver it, and the earliest I get is 2:30PM. For this Apple TV it is on the 30th by 4:30 PM. Lame.
Later specs of the DLNA protocol support Push. For example, Windows Media Player in Windows 7 has had “push” video and audio called “Play to” since it was released.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/play-to
But, overall, you’re correct. DLNA is a mess and you never know which version of the DLNA spec your device supports.
DLNA software is not certified so you also never know which features (artwork, song titles, etc) you’re going to get with your specific software and hardware combination.
For example, the PS3 has a wonky version of DLNA that’s very picky (you’ll get DLNA server errors, missing album artwork, etc) using certain software packages. About the only PC/Mac software I’ve found to be reliable for streaming to the PS3 is PS3 Media Server.
On the other hand, DLNA has become a standard. Roku has announced support for it by the end of the year and the 360 and WDTV Live support it.
The biggest problem with AirPlay on the desktop side is it’s not a service like DLNA-compatible Windows Media Sharing. It, once again, requires iTunes to be open. I hope Apple plans on building it in as a service with 10.7. It would be nice if AirPlay popped up in QuickTime player controls on your Mac.
Unless I missed something, it’s going to be relegated to iTunes like AirTunes (unless you have AirFoil, etc).
@ CrAkD - Nice graph!
My AppleTV shows delivery date of September 30 by 4.30pm EST. Apple wasn't kidding when they said a September delivery... Sad thing is... I'll be on vacation from October 1st to 10th, so I won't get to play with it until I get back! Grr.
My AppleTV shows delivery date of September 30 by 4.30pm EST. Apple wasn't kidding when they said a September delivery... Sad thing is... I'll be on vacation from October 1st to 10th, so I won't get to play with it until I get back! Grr.
I'm in the UK and ordered my Apple TV on the 3rd September. My order status still says: Not yet shipped; Estimated Shipping: September. Plus, the money hasn't been taken from my account.
Anyone from the UK got shipping notification yet / had money taken out?
Plus, to all those bitching about the Apple TV, I think the solution is pretty clear: don't buy one.
Don.
Anyone from the UK got shipping notification yet / had money taken out?
Plus, to all those bitching about the Apple TV, I think the solution is pretty clear: don't buy one.
Don.
I am freaking out!!! I ordered mine at 02:23 PM PDT on the first and it still says Not Yet Shipped, Ships: September!!!
@ CrAkD - Nice graph!
My AppleTV shows delivery date of September 30 by 4.30pm EST. Apple wasn't kidding when they said a September delivery... Sad thing is... I'll be on vacation from October 1st to 10th, so I won't get to play with it until I get back! Grr.
Thanks! I researched my tv for about 6 months before buying. So I lived in reading graphs like that for a long time lol. I decided on a 58" plasma and I sit about 8' feet away max. Playing rock band on it about 4' away is fun! Haha.
The disappointment of teleportation not being the number one shipping method.
Were people notified that their expedited shipping charges were being returned? Or were they just not billed?
I was never notified, and because of the card I used I dont actually have a way to track my charge without making an annoying phone call... but I wonder if they actually charged me and thats why mines delivering by September 29th?
Or if anyone else is showing delivery by the 29th were you charged expedited or no?
What a load of tosh!
Freeview is only good if you are in a good freeview area and along side that only good if you like what they show on the TV and it is limited just as much as Apple TV into what is on freeview in regards to stations.
Sky and Virgin offer a decent service but you pay for a monthly set of films shown over and over again So you could be paying £20 month just to watch 3 films you may want to see plus if you want it in HD another £10 a month
It would be nice to see love film on there but to be honest... I have been using the current apple tv with a US itunes account and although I have sky HD only watch the odd thing..
Apple TV is not a replacement for anything, its something that will give people more choice about what they want to watch and when with no monthly subscription service.
I think saying 95% of brits not knowing about it... is more from your point of view
Who would want to watch only in 720p? I wouldn't
Yeah, and my camera is 40 MP. But let's not rub it in for the poor slobs with only 20/20 vision and snaps barely 8x10.
You can tell on a bigger TV, If I buy a TV show in 720p and I do, then buy the same show off of Xbox Live in 1080p I can see a huge detail difference, 65inch tv.
63"
I have a 63" TV and you can tell a little difference between 720 and 1080. Big difference between DVD and HD.
I have a 63" TV and you can tell a little difference between 720 and 1080. Big difference between DVD and HD.
Anybody who can't tell the difference in quality between a DVD and a bluray needs to get their eyes checked by a good doctor. Also they should have their HDTV checked. Their could be a problem.
I call BS
Ordered mine Sep 1, 2010 at 06:06 PM PDT, still "Not Yet Shipped". Those that got shipment notices, post time of purchase?
My iTunes library has 2.1 terabytes of movies (all my DVDs have been ripped and tagged with Meta X). With a TV in the bedroom, the office, and my living room, as well as a movie theatre in the basement, these things are gold. Pure gold. And thats BEFORE Netflix.
I don't have cable TV at home... aside from Football and TrueBlood (which I catch online prior to availability of the DVD sets), there's nothing I can't catch on dvd or netflix. Managing a DVD library is not reasonable when it gets to that size.
And the device is quiet. Silent. The Xbox is obnoxiously loud even just streaming video... the Apple TV dominates the Xbox and any media PC I'd be able to purchase for the $99 price range.
It's not for everyone. I'd imagine my incentive to own one would be much less if I hadn't made digital copies of my dvd library. But that's the niche that the Apple TV fits
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Apparently, those of us that think we can see the difference of 1920 x 1080 moving pictures vs. 1280 x 720 pictures, can't really see the difference because Apple says so. As soon as Apple rolls out a 1080p
TV though, everyone here will be gushing about the higher video quality and we'll all be able to see the difference... and stuff like "the chart" won't matter, nor the bandwidth arguments, nor the file sizes, etc. Until Apple says so though, those of us with opinions that differ from Apple just have to be wrong about what WE want.When video made no sense on iPods per Apple, it made no sense to Apple cheerleaders either. Then, when iPods with video were rolled out, the cheerleaders gushed at video on iPods. When iPads launched without a front-facing camera for video chat, the cheerleaders passionately argued against the idea that such a camera made any sense for those that desired it. Now that it is obviously on the way, they look forward to the new iPad with facetime. Apparently, whatever Apple says is THE way... until Apple changes it's mind- sometimes a flip flop... and then that becomes THE way. No individuals can have a differing opinion- even for themselves- and be right about it.
Back on topic though: as an owner of 2 current gen
TVs, the things that TVs do, they do very well. If you buy one understanding what they do- and what they can't do- and you're happy with any of the compromises (such as 720p vs. 1080p, etc), you should love the purchase. My now outdated models are terrific for what they can do. It only took 4 years for Apple to upgrade the video hardware from 720p24fps to 720p30fps. Maybe in 4 more years, we'll finally get the terrific Apple UI on 1080 hardware such as <$100 boxes from Roku, WD and a few BD players. I so look forward to an Apple UI on an iTunes friendly & (fully) compatible platform with a full HD capable chipset. Those happy with 720p would still get every bit of the 720p experience, because better hardware can always play less intensive software. So everyone will win when the THAT version of
TV arrives.In the meantime, those of you who have bought this one- or even the prior incarnation that I have- enjoy it. For what it can do, it does it really well.