Insanely Reconsidering WoW

[theARNSKI]

Honestly, I think it depends on what dailies you want to focus on. For example, I focused myself on doing Argent tourney dailies and Hodir dailies, which did allot me somewhere of upwards to 200-300g/day, which is great if you're not making gold off of professions.

I'll just say that I'm doing the champion and valiant Argent dailies and I'm doing all the revered Hodir dailies. Here's my route*WARNING THIS IS GONNA BE A WALL OF TEXT*:

- Starting from Argent Grounds, grab all the Champion, Valiant, and resource gathering dailies. Head to Chillmaw.
- After Chillmaw, head down south to the Valley of Fallen Heroes and do the daily where you have to kill 10 (valiant) and 15 (champion) Scourge. If you're with a group or have awesome AoE, this should be fast since there are groups with 6-7 scourge you can kill at once.
- After Scourge, head south to do both the Valiant and Champion Citadel dailies.
- After Citadels, depending on the Valiant weapon daily, if it's the The Edge Of Winter daily, head east to the area where the winter hyacinths are. After that or if it's a different weapon daily, head to Crystalsong Forest, to the Great Tree area and collect the wood.
- After collecting wood, if it's the A Worthy Weapon daily, head to kill the flame guy in Crystalsong Forest. If it is the The Edge of Winter, head to the lake in Dragonblight to get the sword. If it's the A Blade Fit for a Champion daily, head to Grizzly Hills and kiss the frogs until you get the lady to spawn.
- After these, head to the Dun Nifflem and collect all the dailies.
- Here I start off with the Hot and Cold quest.
- Then I head to do the Blowing Hodir's Horn daily in Thunderfall, north of where you did Hot and Cold.
- Next, I head to the cave to collect the oils for Polishing the Helm daily.
- Next, I do the Spy Hunter and Feeding Arngrim dailies together.
- Finally, I do the Thrusting Hodir's Spear, head to Dun Nifflem and turn everything in.
- Afterwards, I head to the area up north to collect the stone blocks for A Chip Off the Ulduar Block.
- Finally, I head back to the Argent Grounds, do the valiant and champion dailies and turn everything in.

Sorry it was a big wall of text crit, but that's the most efficient way I did the Hodir and Argent dailies together. With the epic flying, you should be able to finish this route well within 1hr30mins, especially once you know where every quest is located. Afterwards, you should have enough to complete other dailies, such as the Kalu'ak dailies, the PvP dailies, WG dailies, or Heroics/Dungeon dailies.

 

[Plutonius]

I'm on a PvP server so I collect the oils after Spy Hunter and Feeding Arngrim. A lot of gankage can occur around the spy hunter daily and it's nice to have another daily to do if I have to wait for the area to clear out.

 

[Huntn]

Honestly, I think it depends on what dailies you want to focus on. For example, I focused myself on doing Argent tourney dailies and Hodir dailies, which did allot me somewhere of upwards to 200-300g/day, which is great if you're not making gold off of professions.

I'll just say that I'm doing the champion and valiant Argent dailies and I'm doing all the revered Hodir dailies. Here's my route*WARNING THIS IS GONNA BE A WALL OF TEXT*:

- Starting from Argent Grounds, grab all the Champion, Valiant, and resource gathering dailies. Head to Chillmaw.
- After Chillmaw, head down south to the Valley of Fallen Heroes and do the daily where you have to kill 10 (valiant) and 15 (champion) Scourge. If you're with a group or have awesome AoE, this should be fast since there are groups with 6-7 scourge you can kill at once.
- After Scourge, head south to do both the Valiant and Champion Citadel dailies.
- After Citadels, depending on the Valiant weapon daily, if it's the The Edge Of Winter daily, head east to the area where the winter hyacinths are. After that or if it's a different weapon daily, head to Crystalsong Forest, to the Great Tree area and collect the wood.
- After collecting wood, if it's the A Worthy Weapon daily, head to kill the flame guy in Crystalsong Forest. If it is the The Edge of Winter, head to the lake in Dragonblight to get the sword. If it's the A Blade Fit for a Champion daily, head to Grizzly Hills and kiss the frogs until you get the lady to spawn.
- After these, head to the Dun Nifflem and collect all the dailies.
- Here I start off with the Hot and Cold quest.
- Then I head to do the Blowing Hodir's Horn daily in Thunderfall, north of where you did Hot and Cold.
- Next, I head to the cave to collect the oils for Polishing the Helm daily.
- Next, I do the Spy Hunter and Feeding Arngrim dailies together.
- Finally, I do the Thrusting Hodir's Spear, head to Dun Nifflem and turn everything in.
- Afterwards, I head to the area up north to collect the stone blocks for A Chip Off the Ulduar Block.
- Finally, I head back to the Argent Grounds, do the valiant and champion dailies and turn everything in.

Sorry it was a big wall of text crit, but that's the most efficient way I did the Hodir and Argent dailies together. With the epic flying, you should be able to finish this route well within 1hr30mins, especially once you know where every quest is located. Afterwards, you should have enough to complete other dailies, such as the Kalu'ak dailies, the PvP dailies, WG dailies, or Heroics/Dungeon dailies.

Great info thanks! For any new players, once you get to Northrend, a flying mount is a must. Some quests require one. The gold really comes into play for the 5K gold fast mount. I'm seriously leveling 3 toons and it is so much, I'm debating on sticking with my slow mount which was about 1800 gold, to get flying in Outland, buy the mount, and then get cold weather flying.

 

[Huntn]

I'm on a PvP server so I collect the oils after Spy Hunter and Feeding Arngrim. A lot of gankage can occur around the spy hunter daily and it's nice to have another daily to do if I have to wait for the area to clear out.

Do you ever get sick it being ganked? Long ago I played the beta on PVP server, but decided it changed the dynamics of the game in a negative way if your focus is on questing.

 

[aznguyen316]

Great info thanks! For any new players, once you get to Northrend, a flying mount is a must. Some quests require one. The gold really comes into play for the 5K gold fast mount. I'm seriously leveling 3 toons and it is so much, I'm debating on sticking with my slow mount which was about 1800 gold, to get flying in Outland, buy the mount, and then get cold weather flying.

damn are the 3 toons for gold farming n ****? that's crazy 5,000 gold.. haha that sucks ass, is that just for flying or for cold weather flying? confused. might as well buy gold then waste time farming hahaha

 

[Plutonius]

Do you ever get sick it being ganked? Long ago I played the beta on PVP server, but decided it changed the dynamics of the game in a negative way if your focus is on questing.

A PvP server is the only type I will play on now. While leveling, being ganked can be a pain but it happens much less then you think (The last character I leveled in vanilla Wow was a priest. I got the priest up to the mid 40's without getting ganked once before I got bored of running a priest). Once you get used to the mindset of keeping track of everything around you, your chance of getting ganked goes down considerably (I still have issues seeing people attacking from above when I'm on the ground ).

The two benefits I see from a PvP server are
1) I find it adds more excitement to the game knowing that you can be jumped at any time. I also think it's necessary for level 80 characters to give them something else to do (most people I know with older level 80 characters on PvE servers wish they were on PvP servers).

2) The people from the other faction are much more polite. Often, I'll be doing dailies surrounded by 4 to 10 enemy players (also doing dailies). The enemy players (and myself) will go out of their way not to antagonize each other by ganking, stealing kills, quest items, etc. Playing on a PvE server, it drove me crazy having people steal my kills, quest items, etc. and not be able to do anything about it.

If someone does bother me while I'm doing my dailies, I will stop doing the dailies and switch to PvP for the evening .

 

[aznguyen316]

A PvP server is the only type I will play on now. While leveling, being ganked can be a pain but it happens much less then you think (The last character I leveled in vanilla Wow was a priest. I got the priest up to the mid 40's without getting ganked once before I got bored of running a priest). Once you get used to the mindset of keeping track of everything around you, your chance of getting ganked goes down considerably (I still have issues seeing people attacking from above when I'm on the ground ).

The two benefits I see from a PvP server are
1) I find it adds more excitement to the game knowing that you can be jumped at any time. I also think it's necessary for level 80 characters to give them something else to do (most people I know with older level 80 characters on PvE servers wish they were on PvP servers).

2) The people from the other faction are much more polite. Often, I'll be doing dailies surrounded by 4 to 10 enemy players (also doing dailies). The enemy players (and myself) will go out of their way not to antagonize each other by ganking, stealing kills, quest items, etc. Playing on a PvE server, it drove me crazy having people steal my kills, quest items, etc. and not be able to do anything about it.

If someone does bother me while I'm doing my dailies, I will stop doing the dailies and switch to PvP for the evening .

that's interesting.. so for those 80s that are on PvE servers couldn't they just pay to change to a PvP realm? and call it good?

 

[Huntn]

damn are the 3 toons for gold farming n ****? that's crazy 5,000 gold.. haha that sucks ass, is that just for flying or for cold weather flying? confused. might as well buy gold then waste time farming hahaha

No, I'm leveling 3 toons for fun, not for farming. The first opportunity to fly is in TBC, approx 900 gold for standard slow mount. Another 800 gold for cold weather flying in Northrend (WotLK). And 5000 gold for fast riding (optional). See this WoW Mount link. See the MacRumors World of Warcraft Guide for lots more links.

To clarify, kills and harvest items can't be stolen once you get a hit in or start to harvest. It's first come first served. If two players are both running for the same mob, this rule applies. However if you see someone standing by a Thorium vein fighting a mob, good etiquette would indicate that they went there to harvest and you should let them have it, (unless they are the opposite faction, then all bets are off...)

 

[theARNSKI]

I do the route on a PvP server as well, Schwarzenaga, 80 Troll DK, Destromath PVP (US). I joined here because my RL friends had something going (we had good guild progression through Naxx25).

This was my 2nd toon that I leveled on a PvP server. My first was a human warlock that I transferred to a PvE server that my brothers and cousins were on.

Plutonius is right on those two accounts, especially about how the opposing faction really do have consideration for other factions in daily questing areas. I've only encountered a couple of times where I would get ganked doing dailies, but it's really rare.

Sadly, though, I stopped playing my DK because all my RL friends quit or took a break, so it gets kinda lonely there. Haha. Even most of the in-game friends I had don't log on as much.

 

[apfhex]

Kinda funny, this thread started before I quit playing, and now I've started again and it's still going. I was a hardcore raider in TBC (I would have been bored otherwirse!) but WotLK seems a lot more casual player friendly. I don't want to spend all my time raiding this time.

that's crazy 5,000 gold

Both my level 70s (soon to be 80s) have their epic flying... did the first the hard way (dailies — back when there were only a couple of dailies to do!) and the second was trivial and required almost no effort to obtain. It's amazing the kind of resources you can have being at the end of raid progression.

p.s. Questhelper is magic and how did I ever quest without it?

 

[Cabbit]

Wow is getting more exciting for me now we have Yogg-Saron hard mode on farm and are getting a good hang of the Algalon encounter.
Though i am rather getting more into arena and pvp now for a mage it is kinda fun especially with full ulduar gear and a healer in a battle ground nothing gets close i kill them so quickly and get healed out of the need for resi with most players.

The best way to get gold i have found is to use the auction house and max out your professions and don't waste money on unnecessary items. Though luckily i am in the server 2nd guild which is a really old guild and has over 200k in the guild bank we can use for repairs when raiding otherwise all them 40-50g repair bills add up.

 

[Plutonius]

p.s. Questhelper is magic and how did I ever quest without it?

Give Carbonite a try. Most people I know switched from Questhelper to Carbonite.

 

[Plutonius]

Wow is getting more exciting for me now we have Yogg-Saron hard mode on farm and are getting a good hang of the Algalon encounter.
Though i am rather getting more into arena and pvp now for a mage it is kinda fun especially with full ulduar gear and a healer in a battle ground nothing gets close i kill them so quickly and get healed out of the need for resi with most players.

The best way to get gold i have found is to use the auction house and max out your professions and don't waste money on unnecessary items. Though luckily i am in the server 2nd guild which is a really old guild and has over 200k in the guild bank we can use for repairs when raiding otherwise all them 40-50g repair bills add up.

Congrats on Yogg-Saron hard mode !!!

I'm in a medium sized casual guild so I PuG raid when I feel up to it (still burned out from too much raiding in Vanilla WoW). Not many PuGs are doing Uldaur yet so it will be awhile before I raid there .

 

[Plutonius]

that's interesting.. so for those 80s that are on PvE servers couldn't they just pay to change to a PvP realm? and call it good?

Unless they changed things, you can not transfer from a PvE server to a PvP server.

 

[aznguyen316]

Unless they changed things, you can not transfer from a PvE server to a PvP server.

oh I see. My assumption. That sucks I was hoping to do that as a lvl 80. heh oh well battlegrounds it is for me!

 

[aznguyen316]

Give Carbonite a try. Most people I know switched from Questhelper to Carbonite.

I just read carbonite stopped updating b/c of Blizzard's new policy on add-ons and no advertising or requesting money thing.. does it still work well in 3.1?

nm they just stopped doing subscriptions.. but still available. will d/l now

 

[Cabbit]

Congrats on Yogg-Saron hard mode !!!

I'm in a medium sized casual guild so I PuG raid when I feel up to it (still burned out from too much raiding in Vanilla WoW). Not many PuGs are doing Uldaur yet so it will be awhile before I raid there .

Aye raiding is really all about having a good guild that attracts good players, and it really pays off. We have some of the best players on the server and attract other players from other servers to transfer just to join us and have a rigourous trial period to make sure the player is capable.
Really the game is about "it hurts move", "it is big, kill it" and if you can't tell that a spinning thing under your feet that is eating your life away is going to kill you then you need to learn a little more as that is really as hard as it gets.
The only other thing i should mention is not mater what anyone tells you gear is important and not just having the gear but having the best gems for the sockets, best enchants and the best bonuses for your class of the 2 professions you have.
After that skill to squeeze every last ounce out is important, which really requires little the same as the boss encounters it's pretty having a little nose at the forums and making a few macros and working out the best abilities to use and in what order then it is learning to watch your feet and your health and find out what hurts and what to hurt.
I have also found it is much better to take on a new boss without reading any tactics or watching videos, just learn by doing look at your surroundings and your feet and debuffs. Everything is very vocal/visual if it's going to kill you.
And of course if you are pugging in your current guild in order to progress then it is time to move on, friends worth being friends will remain so and i have moved up 3 guilds on my way and never lost my close friends in the process. People understand if you get a opportunity to progress and the higher up you get the more time you will have to do other aspects of the game as we clear ulduar in 4 hours then have the week to mess about with the old raids like the sunwell.

btw i only wrote this because i was dreadfully bored, take no heed to anything unless you are interested.

 

[Plutonius]

Heh heh...

I used to raid a lot (it started to feel like a job) and eventually decided that I found the game much more enjoyable in a smaller guild with friends. I still try to get all the best gems /enchants and I have done extensive research on my characters. I got my gear scores over 2.2k on wow-heroes.com (I'm good up to Ulduar 25) which isn't too bad for occasional PuG raiding. I would like to see Ulduar sometime but it's not worth joining a raiding guild again .

 

[aznguyen316]

Unless they changed things, you can not transfer from a PvE server to a PvP server.

I was curious and googled this as well as read the Blizzard Transfer realm FAQ and apparently you can change from a PvE to PvP server, just have to pay that $25 and of course if you don't have a toon of the opposing faction on that realm.

 

[theARNSKI]

Yeah, I think with the release of 3.1 or some patch before, they allowed PvE to PvP transfers. I remember it because of the hooopla is created amongst the PvP players towards PvE transfers.

babyjenniferLB speaks a lot of truth! Really, professions are the best way to get gold. Dailies are just a filler if you don't have maxed professions, with respect to making gold, course. I'm slowly, but surely starting to make money off of enchanting. Albeit I'm only 375, it's sufficient enough to DE northrend greens, blues, and purples, and selling those mats make good money. My other profession is tailoring, at 449, and spellthreads, frostsavage gear, and frostweave bags have yielded me the most gold. Frostweave bags are great because the mats are fairly easy to get with both enchanting and tailoring (60 frostweave cloth, 12 infinite dust, and 2 eternium thread), they sell for 75g+ (i've gotten lucky and sold some for 90g), and everybody needs them, so I don't see it's demand giong down.

EDIT: Is there a dedicated WoW thread or sticky? It seems we have a good amount of members who play.

 

[apfhex]

Really, professions are the best way to get gold. Dailies are just a filler if you don't have maxed professions, with respect to making gold, course. I'm slowly, but surely starting to make money off of enchanting. Albeit I'm only 375, it's sufficient enough to DE northrend greens, blues, and purples, and selling those mats make good money. My other profession is tailoring, at 449, and spellthreads, frostsavage gear, and frostweave bags have yielded me the most gold. Frostweave bags are great because the mats are fairly easy to get with both enchanting and tailoring (60 frostweave cloth, 12 infinite dust, and 2 eternium thread), they sell for 75g+ (i've gotten lucky and sold some for 90g), and everybody needs them, so I don't see it's demand giong down.

People joke that with Enchanting, all you should do is level it far enough that you can DE any item and then stop. I had max level Enchanting in TBC and will continue it, but it's kinda true. Make money selling DEed mats and the rest is just convenience (and the finger enchants are alright - maybe better in WotLK? Haven't really looked at them).

Tailoring I find more useful at least for my own toons. Making your own bags is very convenient and some of the epic quality BoP gear was really good at least early on in raid progression (Frozen Shadoweave set lasted me a long time). And of course it pairs perfectly with Enchanting. I don't know much about what it's like later on in WotLK. In TBC Shadowcloth could sell for a bit but farming the mats to make it wasn't worth the payoff. The AH was flooded with Netherweave bags and people just went bats**t crazy with Arcane Dust there, making it almost worthless. YMMV of course. I've seen some interesting economy differences between realms.

Again though, I speak from my knowledge of TBC, and things are different in Wrath. One thing for certain is you can make very good gold from the gathering professions if you don't mind spending some time farming (instead of dailies). Myself in the endgame I preferred to do dailies and earn the associated rep.

p.s. Look at this... did I really want to get started with all this WoW stuff again? It does feel scarily close to an addiction.

 

[Sandman1969]

What a great game! My wife and I have played since open Beta. Went through a few spells of leaving the game. Came back when BC was released.

WoTLK is a phenominal expansion. The quests and the storyline are so well thought out.

I only play PvP. To add some excitement. Main chars are on Gorefiend. Nothing like fearing for your life at times, or making others fear for their life.

I have a 80 rogue and got to Naxx with guild (they are at Uldaar now) but went back to my hunter, who is now 67 and almost Northrend able. Though still play with my lower toons too. My 30 something Druid is my current fav.

I have alot of fun doing the same quests on different classes to see the differences.

Gold can be easy to get especially if you play lowbies, or farm lower level mats. Hell Runecloth was almost at 10g a stack.

 

[Cabbit]

Yeah, I think with the release of 3.1 or some patch before, they allowed PvE to PvP transfers. I remember it because of the hooopla is created amongst the PvP players towards PvE transfers.

babyjenniferLB speaks a lot of truth! Really, professions are the best way to get gold. Dailies are just a filler if you don't have maxed professions, with respect to making gold, course. I'm slowly, but surely starting to make money off of enchanting. Albeit I'm only 375, it's sufficient enough to DE northrend greens, blues, and purples, and selling those mats make good money. My other profession is tailoring, at 449, and spellthreads, frostsavage gear, and frostweave bags have yielded me the most gold. Frostweave bags are great because the mats are fairly easy to get with both enchanting and tailoring (60 frostweave cloth, 12 infinite dust, and 2 eternium thread), they sell for 75g+ (i've gotten lucky and sold some for 90g), and everybody needs them, so I don't see it's demand giong down.

EDIT: Is there a dedicated WoW thread or sticky? It seems we have a good amount of members who play.

Tell me about it with the bags i sell 20-40 of them a day usually but the real money maker is fishing and cooking, the achievement skills to pay the bills was not kidding as fishing, cooking maxed is easy money getting glacial salmon and cooking it into firecracker salmon which sells a quarter stack for 65g and is only dependent on your ability to fish and buy northern spice cheaply or with the cooking daily.

Another way to save money is to keep a black list of what are described as nabs when you are pugging. Remembering who the bad players, time wasters, and disenchanting thief's are is very important if you don't want to waste all your time standing around or having the same person wipe your pug every time(some i believe do this for kicks).

Part of enjoying this game is also getting really into the lore and why i am moving my main to a rppvp server, i have a alt there and it is indeed slower progress but it is infinitely more fun and coming along fully geared, nice title and several of the best achievements under my belt which i know the best guild does not have half of. Though i am aiming for this transfer to be somewhat of a retirement i want to just work though 10 man hard modes perhaps form a guild just for 10 man hard modes as this will be quick and easy progression with no stress, maybe get a little challenge out of some of the hard modes but over all use up less time.

I think making a 10 man hard mode guild would be a lot more social as it seems that in my current guild i only really talk to the other 15 officers and we kinda have our own private club when it comes to 10 mans and we get on very well but when you get 25 together you don't notice individuals unless you have them on your list to keep an eye on for the likes of trials.

I think i just want to be a bit more social as i play and 10 mans also dinny kill my poor gma 950 as much, it is rather a challenge doing some 25 man encounters(hodir, freya) with 4fps luckily the game is more latency bound than fps bound.

 

[Plutonius]

Another recommendation for Wintergrasp when you hit 80.

Fishing and cooking are the biggest money makers.

 

[theARNSKI]

aphex: Actually, with WotLK, you have even more of a reason to max out enchanting as with the way the game is these days, it's almost necessary to get enchants, high level enchants at that. But if you don't care for that, I would have to say to at least get up to 400, as you would be able to enchant both your rings, which is nice.

As for tailoring, a lot of the best crafted clothie gear requires tons of ebonweave, spellfire, and moonshroud cloth. The mats are fairly easy to get, 1 bolt of imbued frostweave + 2 Eternal [insert name here], not too bad. The tradeoff is the 4 day cooldown. The way I look at it is that's 300g (depending on your server's economy) every 4 days, which isn't great, but definitely is not anything to scoff at. But that along with the embroideries, you can make some decent gold.

babyjenniferLB: 20-40 bags a day?! How are you able to collect so many frostweave cloth?!?! Haha. But seriously, that's amazing. The most I sold one day, and it was really one day only, was 24 bags, each for a nice 85g each.

I'm really trying to level cooking, started on Sunday night, got to about 250, and haven't got around to continuing.

Fishing, though, I maxed it out yesterday as I focused on getting the Giant Rat in the Underbelly (which i got on my 2nd cast. /flex.), the coins (took a while, but I finally got it before I went to bed last night), and Old Ironjaw, who has eluded me after 3-4 hours straight in the Forlorn Cavern. But yeah, I dunno whether to sell all the fish I've collected or save them for when I'm able to cook them. haha. Dilemmas...dilemmas.....