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Intel to Launch New Mobile CPUs (Arrandale) in January?

Eidorian said:
You're going to see quite a few HM/QS 55 or 57 variations once Arrandale line roles out.

PM55 is for Clarksfiled since it lacks an onboard IGP solution. This tends to reflect Intel's past nomenclature for Premium or Graphic enabled chipsets.

H is a newcomer though.
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Seriously, Eidorian, do you spend all your free time memorizing the names and specs of Intel chips and chipsets? :p

Anyway, what are the chances of a higher-end CPU (quad-core?) and dedicated graphics card in the next-gen 13" MBP? Or is Apple still too scared to go beyond integrated in the 13"? I still remember the 12" iBook (my parents have one), which had dedicated graphics. And Steve Jobs was making fun of Intel integrated graphics, and then promptly decided to put them into the 13" Macbook. The iBook had better graphics power than the Macbook for a while.

The problem is, these Macbooks are so thin and hot, I wonder if there are any chances of some power. Sure wuld be nice to stick with a Mac for my next notebook, rather than switching to a Windows-based 12-13-incher with some rea graphics and processor power. And that runs cooler.
 
Beric said:
Seriously, Eidorian, do you spend all your free time memorizing the names and specs of Intel chips and chipsets? :p
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It's only a hobby.

Beric said:
Anyway, what are the chances of a higher-end CPU (quad-core?) and dedicated graphics card in the next-gen 13" MBP? Or is Apple still too scared to go beyond integrated in the 13"? I still remember the 12" iBook (my parents have one), which had dedicated graphics. And Steve Jobs was making fun of Intel integrated graphics, and then promptly decided to put them into the 13" Macbook. The iBook had better graphics power than the Macbook for a while.
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I expect the 13/15" models to stick with a 2 core, 4 thread (2C/4T) Core i3/i5 Arrandale configuration. We honestly don't know what Apple will do without an nVidia IGP. We've been going on for months about it in the main Arrandale thread.

The 17" MacBook Pro is in real need of a quad core option though. Battery life be damned.

Beric said:
The problem is, these Macbooks are so thin and hot, I wonder if there are any chances of some power. Sure wuld be nice to stick with a Mac for my next notebook, rather than switching to a Windows-based 12-13-incher with some rea graphics and processor power. And that runs cooler.
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There's the chance to use the slower low voltage components as well.

The strange thing being that the Low Voltage (25W) and Ultra Low Voltage (18W) parts get the Core i7 moniker while being slower at base and in Turbo. :rolleyes:
 
apple store...

Hey Guys just to let you know that

the apple store, is being updated right know.


1:40 am Central Time.


hopefully it will be great news... cant wait to get the macbookpro 17 inch top of the line... jejejeje


cheers!
ID
 
idsoftware said:
Hey Guys just to let you know that

the apple store, is being updated right know.


1:40 am Central Time.


hopefully it will be great news... cant wait to get the macbookpro 17 inch top of the line... jejejeje


cheers!
ID
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updated with what....they're not going to quietly refresh anything major, like upgraded CPU's. So maybe some holiday pricing or promotions is all, if anything. Or maybe they're adding a few things to the refurbished and clearance section haha... Apple store here in CA is still the same, 11:55pm Pacific time

I know I'm not upgrading anything until they add blue ray to the iMac's, nehalem to their notebooks, or release a tablet.
 
I must say I have been impressed by the Nahelem architecture.

If only we could find a way on the new iMac to revive the idea of Robinson tech. You know, a way of having a platter HD and an SSD. I would still love that.

Now that I have a Drobo with almost 4TB of space I personally don't need a large HD, others do, I just need the fastest SSD I can get.

A new Intel SSD E would be very nice + i7 Nahelem.

Now that's a machine.
 
Bye Bye Baby said:
I must say I have been impressed by the Nahelem architecture.

If only we could find a way on the new iMac to revive the idea of Robinson tech. You know, a way of having a platter HD and an SSD. I would still love that.

Now that I have a Drobo with almost 4TB of space I personally don't need a large HD, others do, I just need the fastest SSD I can get.

A new Intel SSD E would be very nice + i7 Nahelem.

Now that's a machine.
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Wasn't the problem that Robson never really worked. Vista supported it but it didn't show any real world improvements.

As it is, from reading the actual article, they are talking about 1H 2010 so I doubt it will be in the next revision considering Apple usually waits about 6-8 weeks to use them.
 
I thought all the speculation was that Intel was slowing down the rate of change to slow the churn for PC manufacturers who needed longer lead times between upgrades to maintain profits.

Intel obliged but needs to balance Apple/HP/Dell's desire for predictability with their need to keep AMD at bay.

It seems to me Intel agreed to wait until January before opening the floodgates on 32nm procs - and rest assured, they are coming and will be in stores in early January. I'd predict they'll land with an overwhelming thud as everyone and their brother will be stocked at release, as opposed to the trickling out we've seen in the past.

Trickle out production - unpredictable - bad
Artificially delayed release with buildup - predictable - good (for Intel/Apple)
 
One thing that does potentially suck is that all of the 32nm options that Intel is pushing for mobile application have mandatory integrated graphics. It is on the module (with half on a normal chipset as well), so it is far less likely that future Apple machines will have decent, discrete GPUs with a little oomph.
 
One thing that does potentially suck is that all of the 32nm options that Intel is pushing for mobile application have mandatory integrated graphics. It is on the module (with half on a normal chipset as well), so it is far less likely that future Apple machines will have decent, discrete GPUs with a little oomph.
 
Here's hoping Apple hold out just long enough for the HD 5000 series in the new MacBook Pros.

roadmap_gpu_mobile.jpg


OH GOD LOOK AT THEM
 
Yixian said:
OH GOD LOOK AT THEM
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Look at what?

This is just a stupid marketing ppt.

German Heise magazine tested the HD 5000 series in their recent edition and the performance of those cards in DX10 is not very spectacular.

DX11 is useless gag right now, much water will flow down the Mississippi before it will become useful, especially for OSX.
 
Don.Key said:
Look at what?

This is just a stupid marketing ppt.

German Heise magazine tested the HD 5000 series in their recent edition and the performance of those cards in DX10 is not very spectacular.

DX11 is useless gag right now, much water will flow down the Mississippi before it will become useful, especially for OSX.
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GDDR5, 40nm at 15-30 watts isn't impressive to you? What are you thinking??
 
Don.Key said:
Look at what?

This is just a stupid marketing ppt.

German Heise magazine tested the HD 5000 series in their recent edition and the performance of those cards in DX10 is not very spectacular.

DX11 is useless gag right now, much water will flow down the Mississippi before it will become useful, especially for OSX.
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OS X does not have DX, only OpenGL, what are you getting at?
 
greg400 said:
I'm gonna take a guess and say that the high end 15-inch gets an i3, 17-inch get a i5 and the rest of the models are going to be higher clocked dual cores.
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I could see that happening to the MacBook Air (dual core in low-end/i3 in high-end). But I'd hope Apple would put an i3 in the 13 and 15-inch Pros and the i5 in the 17-incher.
 
Don.Key said:
Look at what?

This is just a stupid marketing ppt.

German Heise magazine tested the HD 5000 series in their recent edition and the performance of those cards in DX10 is not very spectacular.

DX11 is useless gag right now, much water will flow down the Mississippi before it will become useful, especially for OSX.
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Every review I've read for the HD 5000 series has been nothing but praise. The fact that it sells out everywhere as soon as it comes in stock just shows how good it is.
 
Why does Intel complicate chip names so much? Simpler and MEANINGFULL name codes would be much better. For instance, iCore, iCore2, iCore3, iCore4, iCore6, iCore8, etc for chips with one, two, three, four, six or eight cores, respectively, would be much easier to understand. The current name conundrum means nothing to most people!
 
SimonTheSoundMa said:
OS X does not have DX, only OpenGL, what are you getting at?
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That is what I say, there is little to "WOW" about, ESPECIALLY from OSX point of view. Sure it is a progress but nothing extraordinary.

DX10 and DX11 might be of interest to those using Bootcamp, that was that I am getting at.
 
BlizzardBomb said:
Every review I've read for the HD 5000 series has been nothing but praise. The fact that it sells out everywhere as soon as it comes in stock just shows how good it is.
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CT review is a praise as well but again, nothing to wow about.

Sell out is not an argument for quality, it just shows how small are the deliveries. AMD and ATI are famous at that.
 
Don.Key said:
CT review is a praise as well but again, nothing to wow about.

Sell out is not an argument for quality, it just shows how small are the deliveries. AMD and ATI are famous at that.
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That's fair enough. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Either way though, I think I can safely assume that no-one wants to the 9400M and 9600M to stay for yet another revision.
 
greg400 said:
I'm gonna take a guess and say that the high end 15-inch gets an i3, 17-inch get a i5 and the rest of the models are going to be higher clocked dual cores.
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i3 lack certain power saving features and are unlikely to be used in MBPs.
 
MacRumors said:


According to Digitimes, Intel is poised to launch their Arrandale mobile CPUs in January 2010. The Arrandale CPUs are based on the advanced Nehalem architecture first introduced into Macs earlier this year. These new mobile processors are said to come in mainstream as well as low-voltage variants that will make them suitable for both the MacBook Pros as well as ultra-thin notebooks such as the MacBook Air. These new chips are expected to deliver significant performance boosts over the currently shipping Apple notebooks.

Apple last updated the MacBook Pro line in June 2009.

Article Link: Intel to Launch New Mobile CPUs (Arrandale) in January?
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Who to believe? A rumour site or Intel itself? Yesterday, Intel officially announced Arrandale. They said, that Arrandale will start shipping in H1, not Q1 of 2010. Therefore, it might come as late as June. This is quite unlikely, but Feb or March seem to be very nice dates.
 
I wish they would have updated before the holidays. I dont understand why they would do it in January. Everyone is buying in December.

Either way, I dont think it matters for the 13 inch. I think it will a performance boost but thats it. I dont think the air will change at all either. Maybe the 17 inch will get i7s and the 15 i5. But I think thats all we'll see.

Maybe the Mac Pro will get a refresh early 2010?

As far as someone mentioning new design, I dont think we will see any new MBP design in 2010. Just a spec bump somewhere.

Off to check out the updated apple website...
 
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