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You're kidding right??? Any PC built today for less than $3K is not "state of the art." You can't even buy a top-of-the-line graphics card and processor for $3K, much less add Mobo, RAM, Power Supply, Case, Active Cooling, and NVMe SSDs. (All of which would be required to label it "state of the art.") And let's face it... even then - it's not lasting 7 years. Look at the tech from seven years ago now - you'd be rocking a dual GeForce GTX 980 setup with a 4th Gen i7-4700 CPU. That's hardly the equipment I would want to be using today.

And Chromebooks?? C'mon, anyone who has ever tried to get any real work done on one of those things knows it's trash. Type an email, build some crappy slides in the drink a pint of whiskey, close my eyes, and deny reality Google version of Powerpoint, or browse the web on a browser with Google-integrated spyware - sure Chromebooks are fine for that. It you want to get anything done though, grab a real computer.

Somebody doesn't know how to build PC's I see.

As for the ad... they sure did expose the childly mac zealots culture lol. Some of those replies are in line of sandbox arguing between a child and their caretaker. Wish people stop being so stupid. It's just an electronics manufacturer lmao.
 
Intel is in the beginning of a fight for it's life: x86. Apple has cut the cord already, other ARM-based designs are rumored (Google Chromebook, Microsoft Surface and then there is Qualcomm/Nuvia), AMD is strong as never before, they are losing market share on the server side ...they do not want to see non-x86 successful, period.
Are those ads/attempts hilarious? yes ...
 
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You're trolling. Have a look at the PCPartPicker build guides. Yes, the "Magnificent AMD Gaming/Streaming Build" there right now is $3475, but notice that $2500 of that is the graphics card, and that's because graphics card prices are severely inflated these days. The rest of the build includes a high-end CPU, high-end motherboard, liquid cooling, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, case, and 750W power supply all within about $1000.

And the nice thing about building a PC is that you can upgrade parts as you see fit. A ten-year-old PC with a new graphics card, SSD, and more memory would still largely hold its own with other PCs today.
Not trolling. He said he could build a state of the art PC for under $3K that would last more than 7 years. That's just not true. You can't it. Sure I can build a really good one, but not state of the art. And, no. It will not last 7 years without significant reinvestment before that 7 years is up. Technology just doesn't work that way. Moore's Law and major leaps in tech will push things so far that it's just not feasible to expect anything to last 7 years. I have a 2014 MBP still on the shelf. A few months ago, I decided to see what it could do with a fresh OS install and clean HD. So I wiped it, installed up through Snow Leopard (for speed and stability), and put it through the paces. It was perfectly functional - at first. But, as you install more (and newer) software, updated Safari to it's most current version against the OS, and re-examined, I noticed that some applications wouldn't work and others slowed the entire thing down. It's still a serviceable machine and works fine for basic tasks and web browsing, but it's nowhere near the powerhouse machine it was back in 2014. That same scenario is exacerbated with PC's running Windows, especially as you step down in hardware specs.

As you said... a PC is upgradable, sure. But, at what point is it still the same PC? These days for serious PCs, the graphics card is just as (or more) important than the CPU. In your scenario, a ten-year-old PC with a NEW graphics card, NEW SSD, and MORE (NEW) memory would still "largely" hold its own. That's not a minor investment of a few hundred dollars. You're at about half the cost (or more depending on what you buy) of a new PC.

I have both PCs and Macs, and each have their advantages. But, to compare long-term residual value of a PC to a Mac is foolish. There's just no real comparison. One of my PCs is a 6th Gen Surface Pro with an i7/16GB/500GB SSD. It's great and probably the most used computer aside from my A1 iMac that sits on my desk in the office. But, in reality, I doubt that it will sell for much more on the used market than the 2014 MB Air with an i7/4GB/256GB SSD that my wife used until a year and a half ago.
 
Not trolling. He said he could build a state of the art PC for under $3K that would last more than 7 years. That's just not true. You can't it. Sure I can build a really good one, but not state of the art. And, no. It will not last 7 years without significant reinvestment before that 7 years is up. Technology just doesn't work that way. Moore's Law and major leaps in tech will push things so far that it's just not feasible to expect anything to last 7 years.
Last 7 years doing what exactly? Like, the machine will still run. You'll still be able to get work done on it 7 years later unless you're a creative pro and need to render increasingly heavy stuff. What's the problem?

Moore's Law ended a long time ago, btw.
 
For Intel, maybe (maybe not..)
But there is AMD.
Unfortunately for many of us (maybe a minority now) realy on some Windows software which do not run on MacOS and will never be ported there.
Unfortunately, because some of them are crap code from the 80s, which would take advantage of such port

For me that software is Visio.

It's funny to see Intel going after Apple so hard considering how low the percentage of Mac users is. Just makes them look very desperate. Maybe they should really focus on chip development to keep the other computer makers like Microsoft from jumping onto the ARM/AMD bandwagon.

That is the real threat. If Apple's move to ARM really takes off other companies will look to ARM as well.

Imagine if Apple pushes a Mac that addresses the gaming issue...

I doubt they will since their view of gaming seems to be Apple Arcade.
 
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What made me go P, is the complete lack of support for 99% of engineering software on MacOS.

I used to just dualboot to get around it, but now I just run a dedicated windows machine for that and have an Air for personal use.

MacOS is not well represented in most STEM fields. It’s great for personal use but useless for professional use beyond creatives, even more so now with ARM.
 
When I've worked for a company that provides me a PC, I peel off this label and put it on the trashcan in my office. That way I always get a chuckle when I throw anything away.

(And by the way, the adhesive on those stickers is something fierce. Intel does not want anyone removing them.)
 
Last 7 years doing what exactly? Like, the machine will still run. You'll still be able to get work done on it 7 years later unless you're a creative pro and need to render increasingly heavy stuff. What's the problem?

Moore's Law ended a long time ago, btw.
If you buy a "State of the Art" PC for under $3K and expect to still use it for Pro-level apps and/or gaming WITHOUT significant upgrades in 7 years. You're either NOT upgrading your apps or still playing 7 year-old games. The OP implied that he could.
 
Last 7 years doing what exactly? Like, the machine will still run. You'll still be able to get work done on it 7 years later unless you're a creative pro and need to render increasingly heavy stuff. What's the problem?

Moore's Law ended a long time ago, btw.
I can dig out my Apple II and still get work done on it, but it's not feasible as a modern machine. It always depends on WHAT work you want to do. For that matter, a typewriter works fine to type out a letter - but it's still old tech. Same with a 7 year old PC. It will turn on, and it will work, but 7 years is a long time. You're talking over a full get of Windows software later. 2014 was Windows 8.1. 7 years later we've gone through Windows 10 and are now on the launch of Windows 11. I haven't tried it, but I doubt a 2014 PC will be capable of running Widows 11 without replacing parts of the internals.
 
No one in the history of the world (with full sanity) has gone from Mac to PC, unless forced.
100% not true. I've switched back because from a pure power to price standpoint for running computational heavy applications Macs are a vanity brand. I will agree though that the new M1 MACS may change my mind during my next upgrade but for statistical computing/ heavy cpu bound applications Macs are not the be all end all. Therefore your statement is false, I'm fully sane... a masters degree student in engineering and I've switched from a Mac to a Linux based PC for my CS courses and applications.
 
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Did Intel already get a preview of the new Macbooks?

I expected not to see these kind of "ads" after the new Intel CEO.
 
If you buy a "State of the Art" PC for under $3K and expect to still use it for Pro-level apps and/or gaming WITHOUT significant upgrades in 7 years. You're either NOT upgrading your apps or still playing 7 year-old games. The OP implied that he could.
And 7 year old mac can do all this things same way as new macs can?
Please. Amazon shopping does not count.
 
Intel outsells Apple? That hasn't been the case for, what, a decade?
Perhaps not in terms of global revenues, but in terms of units sold Macs are still less than 10% of the overall PC market. There are many many more Intel PCs sold than Macs.

 
Intel has so bad marketing for these adverts, it is a pain to watch and read...
I have nothing against Intel. They have done a great work when we look back in time, but year after year we can see that there are some problems and not only their marketing choices.
These advertisements are realy big shame for them - "They are without any taste."

And why they stating himselves as "GoPC" ? Go PC can be also without Intel.
There are AMD CPU's also and we can "Go PC" with AMD.
 
I liked the M1 macbooks until I found out you cannot hook up multiple external displays to them without paying $300 for a displaylink dock.
 
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