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It’s game over for you Intel. Wait until MacBook Pro is unleashed. You have been left behind in the dust.

Intel you just sound desperate now. Just stop and stop making yourself look like a fool. Talk is cheap ;)

Intel on this upcoming Monday!

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Intel might be on slightly shakier ground because of AMD but as long as Apple isn't offering a macbook in the $300 - $500 range, PC and Chromebook laptops own the budget target market and guess what? It's not a small market.
 
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Touch screens and laptops are not a matter of “it just works”, because there are zero good reasons why you should be touching the screen on a laptop. If it were such a good feature
I didn't say it's a good or useful feature. It is, however, definitely, a matter of "it just works". Most non-Macs "just work" at this point - you touch their screen and they respond. This has been the case for about a decade. A lot of people born in the last 14 years have never touched a screen and seen it not react.

The mac, for them, feels like a cheap relic of the past. It's covered in skeuomorphic images, mimicking what you see on a tablet or phone, except you can't actually touch the buttons on it and instead you have to use the mouse.

Do you need to touch the screen? Obviously not. You don't need the speakers, either. But it's incredibly weird and cheap that it does nothing when you touch it. And it gets weirder everyday, as a growing portion of the population doesn't remember when multitouch capabilities weren't standard. Of course, these people don't remember when Apple devices "just worked" either.
 
Interesting that Intel's Marketing Team thinks it is a good investment of their Marketing dollars to say critical things about their former customers (Apple), whiled ignoring their true competitors (AMD, etc.)

I think it is highly unlikely that Apple would ever become a CPU supplier to outside firms. So the only thing Intel loses to Apple is the business Intel would have had with Apple if they remained a customer. Conversely, their entire existence is put in jeopardy by their competitors.

If I were an Intel shareholder, I'd be pissed at them.
And Intel is talking about building a foundry to compete with TSMC for Apple’s business? Why would they burn the bridge before it is even built?
 
What made me go P, is the complete lack of support for 99% of engineering software on MacOS.

I used to just dualboot to get around it, but now I just run a dedicated windows machine for that and have an Air for personal use.

MacOS is not well represented in most STEM fields. It’s great for personal use but useless for professional use beyond creatives, even more so now with ARM.
Professional creative user here. Purchased computers for the entire workforce at a production studio. Been back and forth between windows and mac several times over 20 years.

Apple has lost me due to software and hardware capabilities and cost.

I have not reviewed the M1 chip recently, but from what I originally saw was it was a higher performing as a single core chip. Creatives need high performance multicore processors that typically do not have the same performance in single core scores and software that takes full advantage of the processor(Adobe...looking at you). This also applies with the graphics card(Adobe, Apple, Nvidia, and AMD dropped the damn ball on this one). I am guessing that because no M1 chip rollout on the iMac or the Mac Pro means they have not gotten around this fact.

I traded $11,000 in Apple equipment(2015,2017 iMac) for a $5000 PC Laptop in 2019. The performance level of those iMacs($5500 a piece) was a hair above a cheapie 2014 Dell that I threw some additional RAM in($2000 max, threw a nvidia 660 in there) and performed better for stitching and exporting VR footage. After I put together a Mac Pro equivalent to my PC Laptop performance and the price for the stationary beast was $9399. Obviously the Mac Pro will perform a little better in certain areas, but from my research it was negligible to the gains in performance in other areas.

I understand Apple's perspective but when you start getting into 10,000+ builds for something you know you can get for half the price and lasts longer imo. If I took that 10,000 to setup a PC build...oh my...
 
Intel might be on slightly shakier ground because of AMD but as long as Apple isn't offering a macbook in the $300 - $500 range, PC and Chromebook laptops own the budget target market and guess what? It's not a small market.
The Air is inching closer to the $500 market with the discounts...
 
The Air is inching closer to the $500 market with the discounts...
I have a feeling the M1 MBA base price will drop to $799 or $899 next year along with the radically redesigned and improved M2 MBA. They would be wise to structure the Mac laptop lineup more similarly to the iPad / iPhone lineups where they have cheaper (but still excellent) options down at the lower end of the pricing spectrum, and have stepping stones of Gradual Upsell all the way to the luxurious, expensive top-end.
 
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The M series of chips just wasn’t there for me, so I opted for the 2018 Intel Mac mini earlier this year. I need a new laptop and will likely spring for a 13/14” MBP if they ship with an M1X or M2.

Intel is crazy. I would rather build my own machine and run Hackintosh on it before ever going back to windows.
 
Perhaps not in terms of global revenues, but in terms of units sold Macs are still less than 10% of the overall PC market. There are many many more Intel PCs sold than Macs.

So Apple is raking in the majority of revenue with only a small share of the market. At the end of the day it’s not the number of units sold that keeps the corporation running and growing, it is the revenue generated from sales.
 
I didn't say it's a good or useful feature. It is, however, definitely, a matter of "it just works". Most non-Macs "just work" at this point - you touch their screen and they respond. This has been the case for about a decade. A lot of people born in the last 14 years have never touched a screen and seen it not react.

The mac, for them, feels like a cheap relic of the past. It's covered in skeuomorphic images, mimicking what you see on a tablet or phone, except you can't actually touch the buttons on it and instead you have to use the mouse.

Do you need to touch the screen? Obviously not. You don't need the speakers, either. But it's incredibly weird and cheap that it does nothing when you touch it. And it gets weirder everyday, as a growing portion of the population doesn't remember when multitouch capabilities weren't standard. Of course, these people don't remember when Apple devices "just worked" either.
Gotcha - wasn’t following what you were saying about how a lot of people now expect all screens to be touch capable. As far as that goes, I do wonder what kind of work people are going to do if they expect everything to be just touching a screen. That’s what my point about typing was, especially when you try to implement screen touches into a keyboard and trackpad focused workflow. For anyone who is writing documents and emails or creating and editing spreadsheets, touching the screen slows down your input, which of course is less productive.

Perhaps the future will be writing on screen using your finger or a pencil, more like we’re writing on a pad of paper, but I doubt that can be made to be as fast and efficient as typing is.
 
I'm almost positive most of the M1 development was probably done on an x86 machine. Isn't that good enough for Intel? lol
 
Apple must have canceled some of their contract with Intel for Intel to be restarting these stupid advertisements… that means new MBPs are coming soon!

Intel clearly wants to get their opinion out there (“Macs suck! Go PC!”) before Monday, when the tech news cycle will be dominated by the amazing new MBPs that absolutely crush Intel!
 
Yes you have Alder Lake announcement in late October but this is looking like Intel are very worried that no one will really care what they announce and everyone is going to be focused on Apple's innovative Apple Silicone 14"/16" MBP laptops and how they compare to intel models.

The more they try to belittle Apple community the more they look weak.

Another blessing might be that MS will have to promote Windows 11 for ARM a lot more then they wanted this early.
 
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Intel has so bad marketing for these adverts, it is a pain to watch and read...
I have nothing against Intel. They have done a great work when we look back in time, but year after year we can see that there are some problems and not only their marketing choices.
These advertisements are realy big shame for them - "They are without any taste."

And why they stating himselves as "GoPC" ? Go PC can be also without Intel.
There are AMD CPU's also and we can "Go PC" with AMD.
what they really mean is "Gox86" but no normal consumer would understand that, and at this point in time, AMD is an ally in the x86 camp ...
 
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The answer to Intel.
Only reason I go PC is simple: iTunes is still available on Windows. 🤣
iTunes is useful to me to transcode audio files to a different format. My old Sansa MP3 player doesn't play AAC (M4A). Other software can do that but iTunes is easy to use. iTunes does not support OGG. Just saying.
Otherwise, iTunes is needed to purchase from the iTunes store, as I have no Apple devices. Sometimes Amazon sells MP3s in a variable bit rate, which annoys me. You don't know until after the fact.
So why did Apple dump iTunes anyway?
My favorite app for Windows is AIMP. Love the classic VU meters.
VLC player does everything with a rather simple interface.
 
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I've not had a computing device of any kind work flawlessly.
My old Tandy 1400 HD laptop running DeskMate came the closest.
If we are going to be nitpicky…

Yes, maybe it froze ONE time during those 8 years, nothing to write home about. For all intents and purposes I’d say it’s pretty much flawlessly, or as close as it can be.

Also true that I never pushed the system to its limits.
 
iTunes is useful to me to transcode audio files to a different format. My old Sansa MP3 player doesn't play AAC (M4A). Other software can do that but iTunes is easy to use. iTunes does not support OGG. Just saying.
Otherwise, iTunes is needed to purchase from the iTunes store, as I have no Apple devices. Sometimes Amazon sells MP3s in a variable bit rate, which annoys me. You don't know until after the fact.
So why did Apple dump iTunes anyway?
My favorite app for Windows is AIMP. Love the classic VU meters.
VLC player does everything with a rather simple interface.
I find iTunes easy to use from experience over the years.
I can manage which song to put on my iPod, iPhone and iPad.
Not sure why Apple decided to dump it from macOS while still have it for Windows.
Feels like shooting oneself in the foot.
 
After Monday's "Unleashed" event, the higher-end MacBook Pro will no longer be Intel-based and will officially switch to Apple silicon, but other Macs such as the 27-inch iMac and Mac Pro still feature Intel processors.
Apple's Foundation has predicted the eventual demise of the Intel Empire due to some crisis that will occur.
 
I doubt Intel marketing is that stupid, this is not a jab at Apple but rather faux positioning of themselves at Apple premium level in PC world. Their real enemy is AMD (oops Windows 11 has surprising performance hicups) and infant ARM development. In other words Intel is premium in PC market while others are budget choice. Of course Intel want's some of it Apple customers back too so why not kill two birds with one stone. Or stone yourself to death. Either way.

In the end it doesn't matter if you are on Windows, MacOS or CentOS as long as you can get the job done. I've learned that lesson long time ago and I am no fan of neither of the three operating system. They are all still in stone age if you ask me. Choose Windows to do multiple stuff on a single machine, choose MacOS for apps available only on Mac and pick CentOS for the cleanest performance. Stability is iffy on all three.
 
If we are going to be nitpicky…

Yes, maybe it froze ONE time during those 8 years, nothing to write home about. For all intents and purposes I’d say it’s pretty much flawlessly, or as close as it can be.

Also true that I never pushed the system to its limits.
I have stupid little issues regularly. Could be operator error.
I did have an old Windows 95 HP Vectra which was pretty bulletproof.
As for Intel/Windows, Microsoft needs to bring back a business OS, like good old NT, and put all the restrictions there.
I feel MS is shooting themselves in the foot with Windows 11.
Create a Windows 11 Enterprise.
Is that what the Pro versions are about?
If so, drop the heavy restrictions on Windows Home.
Otherwise, the excrement will hit the oscillator in the next four years and Intel could blame MS.
 
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