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Intel Tweet Asking Why Former Mac Users Switched to PC Backfires

kingfish78 said:
Not trolling. He said he could build a state of the art PC for under $3K that would last more than 7 years. That's just not true. You can't it. Sure I can build a really good one, but not state of the art. And, no. It will not last 7 years without significant reinvestment before that 7 years is up. Technology just doesn't work that way. Moore's Law and major leaps in tech will push things so far that it's just not feasible to expect anything to last 7 years. I have a 2014 MBP still on the shelf. A few months ago, I decided to see what it could do with a fresh OS install and clean HD. So I wiped it, installed up through Snow Leopard (for speed and stability), and put it through the paces. It was perfectly functional - at first. But, as you install more (and newer) software, updated Safari to it's most current version against the OS, and re-examined, I noticed that some applications wouldn't work and others slowed the entire thing down. It's still a serviceable machine and works fine for basic tasks and web browsing, but it's nowhere near the powerhouse machine it was back in 2014. That same scenario is exacerbated with PC's running Windows, especially as you step down in hardware specs.

As you said... a PC is upgradable, sure. But, at what point is it still the same PC? These days for serious PCs, the graphics card is just as (or more) important than the CPU. In your scenario, a ten-year-old PC with a NEW graphics card, NEW SSD, and MORE (NEW) memory would still "largely" hold its own. That's not a minor investment of a few hundred dollars. You're at about half the cost (or more depending on what you buy) of a new PC.

I have both PCs and Macs, and each have their advantages. But, to compare long-term residual value of a PC to a Mac is foolish. There's just no real comparison. One of my PCs is a 6th Gen Surface Pro with an i7/16GB/500GB SSD. It's great and probably the most used computer aside from my A1 iMac that sits on my desk in the office. But, in reality, I doubt that it will sell for much more on the used market than the 2014 MB Air with an i7/4GB/256GB SSD that my wife used until a year and a half ago.
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My work pc is 8 years old, works flawlessly. Didn’t modify it.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to change it, I just don’t need to.
 
Intel talks tough on Apple... but fears AMD and NVIDIA. Don't know why they think Mac users who would jump ship to an Intel-based PC when AMD's Ryzen line is far more reliant.

Even on Windows, Intel is the land of broken dreams and promises.
 
k1121j said:
Is the M1 considered RISC? I miss the G”*” days
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Yeah. I miss those days too. It's a shame IBM couldn't keep up with shrinking the G5 down for a PowerBook. Also, IBM scored all three video game consoles during that time. After the GameCube (PPC 750, formerly G3), they got the Xbox 360 (PPC 970, formerly G5) and entered into a partnership with Sony and Toshiba for the Cell processor. Nintendo was the first and last video game company to use IBM's PowerPC chips.

For those wondering, where's the G4? That was Motorola's PowerPC 4700 series chipset. IBM didn't own the design.
 
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so literally left intel for AMD for my ryzen 3900x for my pc gaming, as for laptops I use my macbook m1 air technically at home i use it as a desktop mac than a laptop
 
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ashdelacroix said:
No one in the history of the world (with full sanity) has gone from Mac to PC, unless forced.
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I only go to PC because at work that is the platform. But even during remote ops, I only use Windows where needed via Remote Desktop.

If the Mac had MS Access, I would almost certainly ask my department to switch platforms.
 
Just wait for Adler Lake, which needs a shiny new scheduler found in Windows 11, that Intel “worked closely” with MS to develop. That same Windows 11 that currently has a “bug” cripples Ryzen’s performance versus Windows 10, a bug that was reported by insiders months ago. Don’t worry, I’m sure that “bug” will get patched shortly after Adler Lake reviews go live and “destroy the competition” on Windows 11. Even if Intel outperforms Apple, the results won’t matter much these days. I’m sure Apple is glad to get out of snake bed.
 
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Wow, intel hired some bozos for marketing. I mean so far, the intel campaign has been total cringe and just not working. It's worse when we look at the market where their laptops are still as expensive as Macbooks and only gets good battery life when not being used. Seriously intel, you better use the money subsidize PC OEMs. If you don't have a better product (more power efficient chip than the M1), at least sell your inferior products for less.
 
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Lets put a little perspective on this...

Apple has spent a fair sum on advertising to get PC users to switch to a Mac...

The world hasn't gone all Mac has it?

The truth is, the people this advertising is marketed to is not the Mac zealot or the PC zealot... it's those who are not cemented in either camp. And to be frank, that group is the only one you ever need to market to because the others are already decided.

You think it's a waste of time, money, an act of desperation... but truth be told, people switch platforms all the time. And quite frankly, it behooves everyone when we aren't cemented to one platform or another.

Just sayin'
 
Darmok N Jalad said:
Just wait for Adler Lake, which needs a shiny new scheduler found in Windows 11, that Intel “worked closely” with MS to develop. That same Windows 11 that currently has a “bug” cripples Ryzen’s performance versus Windows 10, a bug that was reported by insiders months ago. Don’t worry, I’m sure that “bug” will get patched shortly after Adler Lake reviews go live and “destroy the competition” on Windows 11. Even if Intel outperforms Apple, the results won’t matter much these days. I’m sure Apple is glad to get out of snake bed.
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Yeah, that AMD issues actually really made me disappointed at Microsoft. Somebody at Microsoft got in bed with somebody at intel, for sure. It's just BS as Ryzen is taking over intel's marketshare, especially in gaming enthusiasts.
 
gibi said:
For Intel, maybe (maybe not..)
But there is AMD.
Unfortunately for many of us (maybe a minority now) realy on some Windows software which do not run on MacOS and will never be ported there.
Unfortunately, because some of them are crap code from the 80s, which would take advantage of such port
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You could just buy a cheap used sub $50 netbook for those rare occasions. Ironically, while the quality of Mac apps is generally much higher, there's still several power-user programs which don't ever find their way to macOS.

I use UltraISO (ISO editor) as well as HPDisk (formatting utility) as well as several PSP software on Windows. There are no alternatives for these types of things on macOS. Despite proof of concept videos, Wine/Crossover isn't really practical for anything which uses .NET Framework without going through a bunch of loopholes and then it might work.

I just keep XP on a netbook which I only turn on when I need to use a particular software which only runs on Windows.
 
I made a dental appt for Monday at 10 a.m. 'cause ... nothing going on then, right? The funny thing about the semiconductor CPU business ... it's a cold hard business, and nothing is a colder and harder fact than how fast the CPU is. The M1 has scored high and the new chip to be unveiled (is this really the right term? unveiling?) on Monday will not be slower, we know that much. If Intel doesn't have something up its sleeve besides the 11th generation "JumpInTheLake" ... Dear Lord please help me keep the phrase "sink or swim' out of this. Dang! Too Late!!🍸🔥🙀
 
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because AMD processor is amazingly fast and more efficient than Intel processors in the MacBook. Well well, Intel should have learned the lesson.
 
Mac vs pc on Mac rumor. Surely it’s going to be a down to earth discussion.
but this tweet fest ended exactply how I thought it would.
 
Unpopular opinion: I am actually switching from Mac to intel…

Why? Because I want a Laptop with a big screen and don‘t need the extra power that the MBP 16 provides… If there was a 16“ Macbook Air for half the price of the MBP, I would buy it in an instant… But as it stands, I am getting a 16” windows machine for the third of the price of the MBP…

Also, I want a thunderbolt port, so I am actually going Intel, not AMD…
 
kingfish78 said:
I can dig out my Apple II and still get work done on it, but it's not feasible as a modern machine. It always depends on WHAT work you want to do. For that matter, a typewriter works fine to type out a letter - but it's still old tech. Same with a 7 year old PC. It will turn on, and it will work, but 7 years is a long time. You're talking over a full get of Windows software later. 2014 was Windows 8.1. 7 years later we've gone through Windows 10 and are now on the launch of Windows 11. I haven't tried it, but I doubt a 2014 PC will be capable of running Widows 11 without replacing parts of the internals.
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I have a 2014 Haswell Pentium and it cannot upgrade to Windows 11. Unless things change, a 2018 CPU is generally the cutoff point. Funny, if I had a 2014 mini, it is still current enough for the next version of Mac OS.
I really don't see where Intel has anything to worry about. It is still a Windows world.
The Intel NUC has so many more ports than the mini, even the Intel mini.
 
CalMin said:
Intel has an idiot in the marketing department.

  1. Apple is still a customer. Although I suspect not so much after Monday.
  2. intel outsells Apple. it is marketing 101 to never mention your secondary competition.
  3. People don’t choose Mac or PC based on the CPU.
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I think you're right, but I also think that the idiocy at Intel goes much deeper than the marketing department.
 
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Epm said:
100% not true. I've switched back because from a pure power to price standpoint for running computational heavy applications Macs are a vanity brand. I will agree though that the new M1 MACS may change my mind during my next upgrade but for statistical computing/ heavy cpu bound applications Macs are not the be all end all. Therefore your statement is false, I'm fully sane... a masters degree student in engineering and I've switched from a Mac to a Linux based PC for my CS courses and applications.
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I like Linux except it is smarter than me. I mess things up bad enough and return to Windows. Someday that may not be the case. I feel Linux is a real OS versus the limits to a Chromebook.
The mini isn't overpriced, but I do think the Macbooks are, for a guy like me who can do almost everything with an Android tablet.
 
Manzanito said:
My work pc is 8 years old, works flawlessly. Didn’t modify it.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to change it, I just don’t need to.
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I've not had a computing device of any kind work flawlessly.
My old Tandy 1400 HD laptop running DeskMate came the closest.
 
MacRumors said:


Ahead of Monday's Apple event, which is expected to include the much-awaited launch of brand new 14 and 16-inch MacBook Pros, Intel is continuing its long-running campaign to try and convince Mac users to switch to Intel-based PCs.

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Last week, Intel released a video as part of its PC vs. Mac campaign that featured "Apple fans" introduced to different Intel computers and all of their features. During the four-minute video, Intel attempted to paint Apple consumers as oblivious to "innovations" made by companies besides Apple, including "touch screen" laptops.

Continuing its streak, yesterday, the official Intel account tweeted out, "Confessions of former Mac users. What made you #GoPC?" Instead of former Mac users engaging with the tweet on reasons they switched to PC, the tweet instead includes replies of current Mac users poking fun at Intel's "desperate" marketing attempts. One comment reads, "Just admit it: you're just pissed that Apple ditched you and designed a way better processor by themselves."


Other replies include Apple users trolling Intel, with one stating "You're not invited" with a picture of the upcoming "Unleashed" event invitation. One reply, in Intel's defense, says that Apple is "a low performance luxury brand with overpriced hardware and a lesser ecosystem because its closed."

Ironically, while Intel goes on the defense, Apple still sells Mac computers powered by Intel processors. After Monday's "Unleashed" event, the higher-end MacBook Pro will no longer be Intel-based and will officially switch to Apple silicon, but other Macs such as the 27-inch iMac and Mac Pro still feature Intel processors.

Apple officially embarked on its transition to Apple silicon in November of last year, and the company is expected to fully move all of its Mac computers away from Intel next year.

Article Link: Intel Tweet Asking Why Former Mac Users Switched to PC Backfires
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If I could develop and test iOS and iPadOS code without a Mac I would have gone back to a PC last year when I bought my latest MacBook Pro.

I wanted a touch screen, function keys instead of the touch strip, a numeric keypad, an SD card slot, and an HDMI port. In short, a Dell or ThinkPad.

I’m going to guess I’m not the only person that is hostage to Apple because of XCode.

Niels
 
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