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I have to admit, it is fun watching apple acolytes squirm and get bent out of shape about losing the 'cool' factor.

The bigger they are, I suppose.
 
Dont care about your perception. I have Apple products and been here longer than you. If you dont like what i post dont read it. And im not saying the same things over and over. You have me confused with someone else.

Pretty sure he was talking about mbell1975.
 
If by "Destroys", you mean "is Significantly slower than".

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It's also slower than the 3rd generation iPad in the Linpack CPU benchmark, shoot its even slower than the iPhone 4S here.

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The numbers do not support your argument. If your only evidence is the number of cores, you can't make accurate conclusions.

Again, you only look at one, tiny little test with GPU and ignore Browsermark and Sunspider scores where the Nexus trounces the iPad. Oh but those don't matter because the iPad gets its butt kicked in them right? If those test didn't matter, they wouldn't be included in EVERY benchmark test :rolleyes:
 

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Yeah thats cool and all but that Macbook is $2200. Ridiculous.

I love the iPad 3's screen. Looks great but for $249 i can get a 16GB Nexus 7 instead of $499 for the iPad 3.

I do wonder how much the new 7.5"(7.8"?) iPad will be though.

Apple's innovation is not cheap. It takes a pretty penny to be an iDevice owner. In order to get innovation from Apple, you will have to pay up. There is no denying that Apple is commanding the tablet, smartphone, and handheld device markets. And this is all due to the innovation that has taken place over the past few years.
 
...and your rebuttal is to post another graph that also shows it running slower than an iPad. Interesting defense.

Of course, it's not like the numbers actually mean anything anyway. I've been using Apple products for (many) years and it's not the specs that keep me coming back.

Revised it and a 2 FPS difference is nothing. The human eye can't detect any difference between 60FPS and 58 :rolleyes:
 
Again, you only look at one, tiny little test with GPU and ignore Browsermark scores where the Nexus trounces the iPad. Oh but those don't matter because the iPad gets its butt kicked in them right? If those test didn't matter, they wouldn't be included in EVERY benchmark test :rolleyes:

Hey mbell1975, you seem to be ignoring my question in the other thread. You said the iPhone isn't part of the "big boys", and I asked:

If you were an app developer and wanted to maximize profits, but could only choose a single platform, would you choose iOS or Android?

Anyway, the other benchmarks are Browser benchmarks. We've been through this before, so I'm sure you know the difference, but I can copy-paste my previous response...which you also ignored...if you'd like.

Also the last GPU benchmark you posted isn't resolution standardized, but I'm sure you knew that too :)
 
Apple's innovation is not cheap. It takes a pretty penny to be an iDevice owner. In order to get innovation from Apple, you will have to pay up. There is no denying that Apple is commanding the tablet, smartphone, and handheld device markets. And this is all due to the innovation that has taken place over the past few years.

You do realize there are plenty of other phones that cost just as much as iPhones? You do realize a person can get an iPhone for $200 on contract? I'm sure you also realize they can get a previous generation one for $100... It isn't exactly hard to afford an iPhone. It isn't like iPhones are exclusive only to the wealthy. When I bought my GSM Galaxy Nexus when it came out, I payed $700. When I bought my GS3, I paid $600. If I wanted to to get an iPhone instead, cost would have had nothing to do with keeping me from purchasing it. If a person can afford a high-end Android phone, they can just as easily afford an iPhone.
 
...and your rebuttal is to post another graph that also shows it running slower than an iPad. Interesting defense.

Of course, it's not like the numbers actually mean anything anyway. I've been using Apple products for (many) years and it's not the specs that keep me coming back.

So three graphs and only one showing it faster by just a bit and that is the one you want to talk about?
I do agree th numbers dont mean much anyways. Both are fast as far as im concerned but it is DodgeV83 who is the Benchmark believer of all things and always reverts to those.
 
Lol. PT Barnum loves you.

Pretty corny. I can, and am able, so I do not mind paying premium prices to get high-end devices when they come out. I have no issue with paying a premium for what I want. Obviously, it's a concept you have trouble grasping, that or perhaps it's frugality blinding you.
 
Pretty corny. I can, and am able, so I do not mind paying premium prices to get high-end devices when they come out. I have no issue with paying a premium for what I want. Obviously, it's a concept you have trouble grasping, that or perhaps it's frugality blinding you.

If you have no problem paying for premium products you wouldnt have got a Galaxy Nexus.

The camera sucks, the pentile display is dimmer than the IQ of an android fan, it's cheap plastic, and it has a GPU from 2007...

Premium? You jest.
 
So three graphs and only one showing it faster by just a bit and that is the one you want to talk about?
I do agree th numbers dont mean much anyways. Both are fast as far as im concerned but it is DodgeV83 who is the Benchmark believer of all things and always reverts to those.

I suppose you missed where mbell1975 said they revised their post... or that the 'edited' time is AFTER my posting.

When I replied, the graph I talked about was the only one up... as was the quoted text.
 
If you have no problem paying for premium products you wouldnt have got a Galaxy Nexus.

The camera sucks, the pentile display is dimmer than the IQ of an android fan, it's cheap plastic, and it has a GPU from 2007...

Premium? You jest.

Yet when it came out, was still the best thing on the market. How about that... :cool:
 
If you have no problem paying for premium products you wouldnt have got a Galaxy Nexus.

The camera sucks, the pentile display is dimmer than the IQ of an android fan, it's cheap plastic, and it has a GPU from 2007...

Premium? You jest.

And yet it can still do a ton of things an iPhone can't :)
 
it is DodgeV83 who is the Benchmark believer of all things and always reverts to those.

When someone says "The X hardware destroys Y", and the numbers do not support their argument, I will mention benchmarks. Otherwise, I will always contend that it's the software that matters.

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And yet it can still do a ton of things an iPhone can't :)

Still ignoring my questions I see :)

The iPhone can do a bunch of things the Nexus can't as well...didn't we have this same debate a few days ago?

Deja Vu...
 
You do realize there are plenty of other phones that cost just as much as iPhones? You do realize a person can get an iPhone for $200 on contract? I'm sure you also realize they can get a previous generation one for $100... It isn't exactly hard to afford an iPhone. It isn't like iPhones are exclusive only to the wealthy. When I bought my GSM Galaxy Nexus when it came out, I payed $700. When I bought my GS3, I paid $600. If I wanted to to get an iPhone instead, cost would have had nothing to do with keeping me from purchasing it. If a person can afford a high-end Android phone, they can just as easily afford an iPhone.

Sure iPhones are not expensive under contract, but wanna pay for one without a contract? $800 for an unlocked 64GB iPhone 4S?! Psshhh... That is a lot of money. Apple products are notably more expensive than their counterparts, whether it be a computer, tablet, or iOS device. Nuff said.
 
Sure iPhones are not expensive under contract, but wanna pay for one without a contract? $800 for an unlocked 64GB iPhone 4S?! Psshhh... That is a lot of money. Apple products are notably more expensive than their counterparts, whether it be a computer, tablet, or iOS device. Nuff said.

*yawn* Let's see, where to start...1) The majority of the people in the US buy their phones on contract, so you point about the unlocked phone is moot. As a matter of fact, the average iPhone owner would not even consider spending $800 on an iPhone.
2) The 64gb unlocked is their most expensive model. There are other storage size variants of the 4S that cost the same as other high-end Android phones.

Come with something better than the "the iPhone is expensive" argument. Like I said, if a person can afford a high-end Android phone, they can afford an iPhone. I don't know where you came up with the idea that the iPhone is so hard to get, and that only financially well-off can afford it. It's no more difficult to obtain financially than any other high-end phone.
 
Yet when it came out, was still the best thing on the market. How about that... :cool:

I don't agree but I concede one does not generally buy a Nexus device for raw horsepower and top flight specs. That's not their purpose and anyone seeking raw muscle would be better served elsewhere.

They have their selling points which are perfectly valid, but power and specs are not their claim to fame.
 
I have been a member here on MacRumors since 2007 and I can't remember a time that I've seen as many posts and discussions regarding the possibility of straying from the iPhone. Just look at the threads up now. A lot of talk about iPhone vs. the Galaxy. iOS vs. Android (and Windows). Talk about the Nexus and other smartphone options.

I have to admit, I'm starting to think about jumping ship too (I'm test driving a Lumia 900 now. I like it but still lean slightly towards my iPhone 4...but I digress). The Galaxy S3 look mighty sexy. I'm still waiting to see what the iPhone "5" shapes up to be but, if it's essentially a longer (4 inch) iphone with LTE, I'm gonna have to give some serious thought to alternatives...something I would have NEVER done even a year ago. I've had every iteration of the iPhone and used nothing but an iPhone for the last 5 years.

I'm a major Apple fanboy (friends and family actually tease me about my Apple obsession) so it's tough to admit that the iPhone might be falling behind a bit. That is my personal impression of course.

I do realize that my observations are purely anecdotal but, it just seems that I'm not the only Apple nut feeling this way lately.

Damn, the S3 IS pretty sexy. I'm rooting for an awesome new iPhone in a few months though. I hope. :)

There is a common issue with many of users in the "Smartphoneoshphere" about comparing the old iphone devices with the latest phones of the Android platform. Since Apple release stuff rather slowly, I think we should wait for the new device releases before comparing it with others, if you really are an Apple users with obsession of Apple devices you should be able to wait enough for the release of the new devices.
 
Its a shame Apple doesn't lower the price of its products at the end of their lifecycle.

You have the Galaxy Nexus at $350 vs the iPhone 4s at $650, both due to be replaced this year.
 
I don't agree but I concede one does not generally buy a Nexus device for raw horsepower and top flight specs. That's not their purpose and anyone seeking raw muscle would be better served elsewhere.

They have their selling points which are perfectly valid, but power and specs are not their claim to fame.
Indeed. It wasn't purchased for horsepower, it was purchased for direct Google support, and to hold me until the next Nexus comes out (though I found the GS3 to be too enticing to turn down). Of course there are various features of the phone that also attracted me to it too.
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I'm glad you are at least reasonable enough to concede it does have it's valid selling points.

There is a common issue with many of users in the "Smartphoneoshphere" about comparing the old iphone devices with the latest phones of the Android platform. Since Apple release stuff rather slowly, I think we should wait for the new device releases before comparing it with others, if you really are an Apple users with obsession of Apple devices you should be able to wait enough for the release of the new devices.
What do you expect people to do? It isn't their fault Apple doesn't release new devices in a timely manner. Of course people are going to compare it to the current iPhone...IT'S THE MOST CURRENT ONE. People always compare their phone to whatever the current phone is. The HTC One X was compared to the Galaxy S2, the iPhone 4S was compared to the Galaxy S2. That's just simply how it works. Now my question to you is, when the 4S was released, were you telling people not to compare it to the Galaxy S2, since the S2 had been out for almost half a year by the time the 4S was released? Were you telling people to wait a few months for the Galaxy S3 (which released 7 months later)?
 
Like what? Unless its Apple exclusive like Siri, Nexus can do it and much more.

Hey mbell1975, you started the conversation, and you seem to be the most vocal anti-Apple person on the board, yet you're ignoring my response to your post. Yes mbell1975, you've done it many times in the past, and I'm calling you out on it:

You said the iPhone isn't part of the "big boys"...

My response:

If you were an app developer and wanted to maximize profits, but could only choose a single platform, would you choose iOS or Android?

Anyway, back to this post. Not only have we covered this exact same question in the past, but your question is illogical. You literally just said:

"Like what? Unless its something only the iPhone can do, Nexus can do it and much more."
 
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